T7 triangle 2701 and sommerfeld constant alpha

[RAMcGough]

Oh no you don't SonofZion232, I am being 100% serious when I say that your stuff is the worst stuff I have ever seen regarding gematria.
I took a look at it again now and that stuff is just wild and chaotic.
I think it is amazing that Richard has not said one word against your stuff.
But he is a changed man, so maybe he is not on the offensive side here as he used to.

Amen! By the grace of God, I am a changed man. He broke my pride with a sledge hammer and for that I will be eternally grateful. It's hard to image how my pride could ever recover after He sent me out for 14 years to "eat grass" and humiliate myself by using my "big brain" to "debunk" the revelations He gave me. I believe this is all part of his plan for my life. A man of pride cannot effectively serve God. It is a great blessing to be chastised by the Lord. At least I know I'm not a bastard!

Hebrews 12:8 But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.

Love the old King James on this one!

I have serious doubts about the validity of gematria based on massive collections of cherry picked data and no clear principles to discern between random chance vs design. But I don't feel led to debate such things right now. God has put a fire in my heart to update my site to reveal the glory of His Word according to the light He has given me, but it's taking a lot of effort because I have to learn to look only to HIM and HIM ALONE for direction. I have a bad habit of trying to "convince" with human wisdom, academic style argumentation. That's not what He wants. My guiding verses are Psalm 127:1 "Except the Lord build the house, they labor in vain who build it."

And Habakkuk 2:2 "And the LORD answered me, and said, Write the vision, and make it plain upon tables, that he may run that readeth it."

But if anyone wants to engage me seriously about how to discern between true and false systems of gematria and code finding, I'll do my best answer in a way that honors God. I will happily explain my reasons. I just don't want to endlessly bicker over things or argue with people who will never admit being wrong.

God bless both of you, Alex and SonofZion232. I pray God exposes all our errors and points us to the way He wants us to go to fulfill His Will - make the Gospel light shine, shine, shine.

[Alex]

Praise God Almighty! As we see Richard is changed! And that is great!
Now do you really dare to ask him what his genius thinks about your ways in gematria SonofZion232?
Remember, he is with God and and has to be honest. There is no compromise to the truth.

[Glen]

Exodus 4:11
And the LORD said unto Moses, Who hath made man's mouth? or who
maketh the dumb, or deaf, or the seeing, or the blind? have not I the LORD?

The English words mouth _ dumb _ deaf _ seeing _ blind
appear exactly 666 times in the King James 1769 Bible (Verify Here)!

The first occurrence of 2701 in Pi occupies positions 165 – 168.
40812848111745028410270193852110555964462294
....................................................................................................^ <-- 165th digit

165 + 166 + 167 + 168 = 666

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The English word Christ appears precisely 555 times in the Entire KJ 1769 Bible (Verify Here)!


Jesus G2424 × 555 = 1,345,320 | 1 + 345 + 320 = 666
Jesus G2424 Ιησους = 888 × 2424 = 2,152,512 | 2+152+512 = 666


666 + 666 = 1332

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The English phrase the King appears exactly 1332 times in the KJ 1769 Old Testament (Verify Here)!

[RAMcGough]

Shalom, I'm not in any mood to debate either. But If you would not find it to much trouble, maybe you can show me where I cherry picked to help me from doing it again. Thanks

Shalom to you too!

When I scan your posts, I see very long lists of verses generated by your division by pi algorithm with selected words highlighted here or there. That feels like cherry picking. But I could be wrong. To find out, it would help if you could explain how you make the choices to start with 20 digits of pi, then add 100, etc. It looks like you start by searching the Bible for all verses of a given value, like 4717 and then working backwards to figure out a way to make "connections".

So let's start with a simple explanation of why you chose the 20 digits, and why you added a 100. That should get the conversation going.

Also, I thought you sometimes add the book number and sometimes don't. E.g. you said 2 Samuel 17:22 = 39 but that only works if you don't add the 2. Are you consistent on this point?

Hopefully you have been restored, and your 14 years of eating grass wasn't for nothing.

May that be the case.

Amen!

[RAMcGough]

I try to keep it simple, show the pay streak, sometimes less is more when displaying His Work to help others to understand, Just add the 2 which makes 41

the morning light = 179 = The 41st Prime number, increases the overall total to 102 \ Verse 120

add the 1 from 1 Samuel overall total 103 the 27th Prime.

I took this part out for clarity, and that doesn't change the fact that the chapter and verse numbers = 100 the same number of digits between 20 and 120 of Pi and that both verses = 4717 in Hebrew.

The Morning Light

OK - so can you tell me how you actually found this pattern? Did you start by searching for all verses that sum to 4717 and then look for a pattern? There are 7 such verses in the Bible. Your pattern connects the two that include the phrase "the morning light".

You said you added the 1 from 1 Samuel. What about the 2 from 2 Samuel? Are you consistent in this?

And how many different gematria methods do you combine? The phrase "the morning light" in Hebrew (aur hbqr) = 514.

Do you always combine a prime numbers with their indexes like 179 + 41 = 120? That seems to give a lot of wiggle room to cherry pick patterns.

How does the fact that those verse numbers add to 100 mean anything? You could have subtracted them. You could do anything you want. What are the actual rules of your system? This is important, because if there are no rules, couldn't everyone just make up what they want? How would that have any meaning?

Great chatting! Thanks for starting a good conversation.

[RAMcGough]

A1 - Z26 - The Morning Light = 179 The 41st Prime

I added the book number 2 to 39 = 41

Now with that addition The Total = 102 at verse 120

Then I added the 1 which made the total 103 The 27th Prime.

I understand you used English Ordinal gematria to get "The Morning Light" = 179. Is that the only kind of gematria you use? Or are you mixing other kinds?

Why did you choose 2 + 39? You have all these numbers to choose from using those two verses:

2 Samuel 17:22 => 2, 17, 22, 19 (17+2), 24 (22+2), 39 (17+22), 41 (2+17+22)
1 Samuel 25:36 => 1, 25, 36, 26 (1+25), 37 (1+36), 61 (25+36), 62 (1+25+36)

That's fourteen numbers to pick and choose from. And then if you start mixing the two lists you many more numbers. That's why I say it feels like "cherry picking".

And could you please answer my question? Did you start by searching for all verses that sum to 4717 and then look for a pattern? And when you found "the morning light" appearing twice, did you then go looking for a way to "connect" them? I would like to know what you are actually doing. I think that will help me understand.

Also, it doesn't help if you add long lists of different connections. We need to focus on one thing at a time. It would really help if you could stick to a small set of "connections" and explain how you found them.

Thanks! It really is good to be chatting again.

[RAMcGough]

Here is a entire thread, wherein I added the chapter and verse numbers, then if there was a book number it was added second, more than a 100 post to choose from and never once did I parse a verse as you have, the same way every time, because to do it as you suggest could be done would be disingenuous, allow a person to reach their desired result, rather than be consistent, It is what It is. https://www.biblewheel.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=37

hypothetical maybe what if comparisons only serve to obfuscate from the consistent methodology I've employed throughout.

That's in my opinion

I'll take a look at that thread. I'm glad we agree we need to be consistent.

I understand your basic algorithm using the pi - e - phi remainder-verse. I'd like to know what tools you are using to calculate the remainders. I found a a page that does digit sums for very large numbers. It would be easy to write a page to do the divisions, but I don't want to spend the time if you've got a handy link.

For that matter, it would be easy to have some AI write a page that spits out all the verses automatically if you just put in the value of the number of digits you want to use (like 100).

[RAMcGough]

LOL - I should have known that. I remember now seeing you mention it in another post. I just haven't been paying much attention and so forgot.

Thanks.

[girardlys]

Hmmm, well, I'm sad about your "cross-purpose".

Using pi to justify "calculations" is fine, but mixing gematria in Hebrew, English, or any other language is a no-go for me.
Everything must be verifiable with the numbers from which the calculation originates; therefore, it should be solely gematria in Hebrew or solely gematria in english, but not a complete mess. So don't mix anything...with one another.
If it's scripture in hebrew then: gematria in hebrew, if it"s english: gematria in english to be simple.

I'm sorry this post is going off on tangents. There's room for everyone, and my work can't be easily dismissed, ,in fact it can"t be.

If God had a name he cherished, it would be that of peace between men of goodwill, and every seeker of truth is welcome.

I'm not against critics if they contribute positively; working with scripture and explaining the truth simply and clearly is my ultimate goal. We don't trifle with words and sacred scriptures.

[RAMcGough]

Hmmm, well, I'm sad about your "cross-purpose".

Using pi to justify "calculations" is fine, but mixing gematria in Hebrew, English, or any other language is a no-go for me.
Everything must be verifiable with the numbers from which the calculation originates; therefore, it should be solely gematria in Hebrew or solely gematria in english, but not a complete mess. So don't mix anything...with one another.
If it's scripture in hebrew then: gematria in hebrew, if it"s english: gematria in english to be simple.

I'm sorry this post is going off on tangents. There's room for everyone, and my work can't be easily dismissed, ,in fact it can"t be.

If God had a name he cherished, it would be that of peace between men of goodwill, and every seeker of truth is welcome.

I'm not against critics if they contribute positively; working with scripture and explaining the truth simply and clearly is my ultimate goal. We don't trifle with words and sacred scriptures.

Hey girardlys,

I need to go back to your first post in this thread and start there. I jumped into the middle, answering SonofZIon232's comments, which have nothing to do with your work. I agree with you that gematria should be as limited as possible, since the more methods you add, the more difficult it is to discern between design and random coincidences.

I'll go review your first post now.