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Re: Verse 30027

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2026 6:40 pm
by RAMcGough
SonOfZion232 wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2026 6:09 pm Richard, you're a preterist, theologically the work that the Almighty has given me to do can not possibly be true in your paradigm, Because all prophecy has been fulfilled, thus you summarily reject the mere idea of English Gematria. You looked up what method I have been using this entire thread without variation "ordinal English gematria" for every Word, Phrase or Verse, Had you followed along in the least, you would have already known that. And that's how you begin? How is that? If I have never varied from ordinal Gematria, do I need to repeat it every time?

Here is the point, If English gematria is true, your theology especially your eschatology is false doctrine. Correct?
Peace to you LJ,

As I explained earlier in this thread (here's the link, do you remember?), preterism has absolutely NOTHING to do with my comments about your codes. I've never brought it up, and it has never entered my mind. And more importantly, it's not accurate to say I'm a "preterist" per se because there are many varieties of preterism. I think the partial preterstist view is obviously true in that the temple was destroyed in 70 AD, during that generation, exactly as Christ predicted. It's also important that I haven't been focusing on eschatology at all since my return to faith last year. I've been much more interested in learning to live the faith and get in sync with the mind and will of our Lord Jesus Christ.

I don't believe "all prophecy has been fulfilled". I never believed that. I've always known that no system of eschatology was perfect - whether Preterist, Historicist, Futurist, or Idealist. They all have shortcomings. Back in the day, before I fell away, I concluded that partial preterism was the best, but it felt like all interpretatoins had some degree of support. For example, the seven churches of revelation link well with the history of the last 2000 years. And there is a timeless aspect of Revelation as a spiritual revelation of the revelation of Christ in the heart of the believer during the battle between good and evil over the span of the eon. Etc. I've always been very open minded about these things that we can't know for sure. There is absolutely no reason you work could not be possible in "my paradigm". My only critique is that is seems to be based on generating a list of random verses and then cherry picking words and numbers to make an arbitrary pattern.

And again, as I explained before eschatology has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO with my former rejection of English gematria. And again, as I told you, I have not made any arguments against English gematria since returning to the faith last year. It has not been my focus.

My critique is all about your methods. It has nothing to do with Preterism or even English gematria per se. It has to do with the fact that it would be very unlikely that any two people using your methods would ever independently come to the same conclusion. Now I know that you use English ordinal, but then you mixed it with Greek standard for a rather unusual spelling of "wind". You didn't use the most common word or spelling. There were many possibilities so someone else, using your same methods, would have probably chosen a different word and come to a different conclusion That's my point. Do you understand it?

Finally, you say: Here is the point, If English gematria is true, your theology especially your eschatology is false doctrine. Correct?

NO! That is not correct. Your method has absolutely nothing to do with eschatology. My only interest is in your methods.



Much peace to you.

Richard

Re: Verse 30027

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2026 7:09 pm
by SonOfZion232
RAMcGough wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2026 6:40 pm
SonOfZion232 wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2026 6:09 pm Richard, you're a preterist, theologically the work that the Almighty has given me to do can not possibly be true in your paradigm, Because all prophecy has been fulfilled, thus you summarily reject the mere idea of English Gematria. You looked up what method I have been using this entire thread without variation "ordinal English gematria" for every Word, Phrase or Verse, Had you followed along in the least, you would have already known that. And that's how you begin? How is that? If I have never varied from ordinal Gematria, do I need to repeat it every time?

Here is the point, If English gematria is true, your theology especially your eschatology is false doctrine. Correct?
Peace to you LJ,

As I explained earlier in this thread (here's the link, do you remember?), preterism has absolutely NOTHING to do with my comments about your codes. I've never brought it up, and it has never entered my mind. And more importantly, it's not accurate to say I'm a "preterist" per se because there are many varieties of preterism. I think the partial preterstist view is obviously true in that the temple was destroyed in 70 AD, during that generation, exactly as Christ predicted. It's also important that I haven't been focusing on eschatology at all since my return to faith last year. I've been much more interested in learning to live the faith and get in sync with the mind and will of our Lord Jesus Christ.

I don't believe "all prophecy has been fulfilled". I never believed that. I've always known that no system of eschatology was perfect - whether Preterist, Historicist, Futurist, or Idealist. They all have shortcomings. Back in the day, before I fell away, I concluded that partial preterism was the best, but it felt like all interpretatoins had some degree of support. For example, the seven churches of revelation link well with the history of the last 2000 years. And there is a timeless aspect of Revelation as a spiritual revelation of the revelation of Christ in the heart of the believer during the battle between good and evil over the span of the eon. Etc. I've always been very open minded about these things that we can't know for sure. There is absolutely no reason you work could not be possible in "my paradigm". My only critique is that is seems to be based on generating a list of random verses and then cherry picking words and numbers to make an arbitrary pattern.

And again, as I explained before eschatology has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO with my former rejection of English gematria. And again, as I told you, I have not made any arguments against English gematria since returning to the faith last year. It has not been my focus.

My critique is all about your methods. It has nothing to do with Preterism or even English gematria per se. It has to do with the fact that it would be very unlikely that any two people using your methods would ever independently come to the same conclusion. Now I know that you use English ordinal, but then you mixed it with Greek standard for a rather unusual spelling of "wind". You didn't use the most common word or spelling. There were many possibilities so someone else, using your same methods, would have probably chosen a different word and come to a different conclusion That's my point. Do you understand it?

Finally, you say: Here is the point, If English gematria is true, your theology especially your eschatology is false doctrine. Correct?

NO! That is not correct. Your method has absolutely nothing to do with eschatology. My only interest is in your methods.



Much peace to you.

Richard
You said
"it would be very unlikely that any two people using your methods would ever independently come to the same conclusion"

I only use the 1769 KJV, the same text that you have on your database. Ordinal Gematria

Acts Two - Two = Verse 159
Verse Value = Verse 1140
159 + 1140 = Verse 1299 = 21 = 3

How can anyone get any other result by this method?

If a verse number is a prime, then the order number becomes a verse
and the prime + its order number a verse.

That's It

You didn't know that only Ordinal English Gematria has been used by me in this thread, now page 35 and now you are implying that there's a way to get different results?

Do any verse like this and show me your different result, you said it could be done, here's your chance, give me and everyone else an example of what you mean.

Then the verses are tested for symmetry by the same methods each time.

Two factors have been sufficient to test for a little while now.

Please give us an example of how anyone keeping to the same process and testing can get something other than the empirical mathematical results that the equations demand.

You may start now with your example.


>>>

Wind = 50 - Fifty = 66 = 12 = 3

πνοης = 408 = 12 = 3

Four Hundred Eight = 183 = 12 = 3

317) Verse 26952 = 24 = 2*12 | Acts 2:2 = 4 _ (28) 10=1

And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing Mighty Wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting.

317) 66th Prime 12=3 _ (383) 14=5 - 76th Prime 13=4 (459) 18=9

459 is a mathematically interesting composite number, notable as the smallest integer that is the sum of two 3-digit numbers using all digits 1-9 once ( 459 = 173 + 286). It is also the smallest number where the product of its digits is 10 times their sum, and minus its reversal ( 954 - 459) equals 495

459 prime factorization is 3 x 3 x 3 x 17

Acts Two - Two = 159
Verse Value = 1140
159 + 1140 = 1299 = 21 = 3

317th Prime = 2099 = 20 = 2

Three Hundred Seventeen = 239=14=5 - 52nd Prime 7 (291) 12 = 3

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Re: Verse 30027

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2026 7:20 pm
by RAMcGough
SonOfZion232 wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2026 7:09 pm You said
"it would be very unlikely that any two people using your methods would ever independently come to the same conclusion"

I only use the 1769 KJV, the same text that you have on your database. Ordinal Gematria

Acts Two - Two = Verse 159
Verse Value = Verse 1140
159 + 1140 = Verse 1299 = 21 = 3

How can anyone get any other result by this method?

If a verse number is a prime, then the order number becomes a verse
and the prime + its order number a verse.

That's It

You didn't know that only Ordinal English Gematria has been used by me in this thread, now page 35 and now you are implying that there's a way to get different results?

Do any verse like this and show me your different result, you said it could be done, here's your chance, give me and everyone else an example of what you mean.

Then the verses are tested for symmetry by the same methods each time.

Two factors have been sufficient to test for a little while now.

Please give us an example of how anyone keeping to the same process and testing can get something other than the empirical mathematical results that the equations demands.

You may start now with your example.


>>>

Wind = 50 - Fifty = 66 = 12 = 3

πνοης = 408 = 12 = 3

Four Hundred Eight = 183 = 12 = 3

I already showed you the example. You chose the word πνοης = 408 = 12 = 3

Why did you choose that word rather than any of these others? If a person didn't choose the same word as you, then they'd get a different result, right?

### 1. ἄνεμος (anemos) – "wind" (masculine, second declension)

**Singular**
- Nominative: ἄνεμος
- Genitive: ἀνέμου
- Dative: ἀνέμῳ
- Accusative: ἄνεμον
- Vocative: ἄνεμε

**Plural**
- Nominative: ἄνεμοι
- Genitive: ἀνέμων
- Dative: ἀνέμοις
- Accusative: ἀνέμους
- Vocative: ἄνεμοι

### 2. πνεῦμα (pneuma) – "wind" (or "spirit/breath"; neuter, third declension)

**Singular**
- Nominative: πνεῦμα
- Genitive: πνεύματος
- Dative: πνεύματι
- Accusative: πνεῦμα
- Vocative: πνεῦμα

**Plural**
- Nominative: πνεύματα
- Genitive: πνευμάτων
- Dative: πνεύμασι(ν)
- Accusative: πνεύματα
- Vocative: πνεύματα

### 3. πνοή (pnoē) – "wind/breeze/breath" (feminine, first declension)

**Singular** (only singular attested in NT)
- Nominative: πνοή
- Genitive: πνοῆς <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< the one you chose.
- Dative: πνοῇ
- Accusative: πνοήν
- Vocative: πνοή

**Plural** (theoretical; not attested in NT for this word)
- Nominative: πνοαί
- Genitive: πνοῶν
- Dative: πνοαῖς
- Accusative: πνοάς
- Vocative: πνοαί

Re: Verse 30027

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2026 7:39 pm
by SonOfZion232
RAMcGough wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2026 7:20 pm
SonOfZion232 wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2026 7:09 pm You said
"it would be very unlikely that any two people using your methods would ever independently come to the same conclusion"

I only use the 1769 KJV, the same text that you have on your database. Ordinal Gematria

Acts Two - Two = Verse 159
Verse Value = Verse 1140
159 + 1140 = Verse 1299 = 21 = 3

How can anyone get any other result by this method?

If a verse number is a prime, then the order number becomes a verse
and the prime + its order number a verse.

That's It

You didn't know that only Ordinal English Gematria has been used by me in this thread, now page 35 and now you are implying that there's a way to get different results?

Do any verse like this and show me your different result, you said it could be done, here's your chance, give me and everyone else an example of what you mean.

Then the verses are tested for symmetry by the same methods each time.

Two factors have been sufficient to test for a little while now.

Please give us an example of how anyone keeping to the same process and testing can get something other than the empirical mathematical results that the equations demands.

You may start now with your example.


>>>

Wind = 50 - Fifty = 66 = 12 = 3

πνοης = 408 = 12 = 3

Four Hundred Eight = 183 = 12 = 3

I already showed you the example. You chose the word πνοης = 408 = 12 = 3

Why did you choose that word rather than any of these others? If a person didn't choose the same word as you, then they'd get a different result, right?



Because that is the word in the Greek that was translated into wind in this verse. what's with the this tense that tense nonsense following supposed to prove?

Wind = 50 = 5
Fifty = 66 = 12 = 3
πνοης = 408 = 12 = 3
Four Hundred Eight = 183 = 12 = 3

317) 66th Prime 12=3 _ (383) 14=5 - 76th Prime 13=4 (459) 18=9

Three Hundred Seventeen = (239) 14=5 - 52nd Prime 7 (291) 12=3 _ 9+3 (12) 3

459 prime factorization is 3 x 3 x 3 x 17

Acts Two - Two = 159
Verse Value = 1140
159 + 1140 = 1299 = 21 = 3

317th Prime = 2099 = 20 = 2

Re: Verse 30027

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2026 7:48 pm
by RAMcGough
SonOfZion232 wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2026 7:39 pm Because that is the word in the Greek that was translated into wind in this verse. what's with the this tense that tense nonsense following supposed to prove?

Wind = 50
Fifty = 66 = 12 = 3
πνοης = 408 = 12 = 3
Four Hundred Eight = 183 = 12 = 3

317) 66th Prime 12=3 _ (383) 14=5 - 76th Prime 13=4 (459) 18=9

Three Hundred Seventeen = (239) 14=5 - 52nd Prime 7 (291) 12=3 _ 9+3 (12) 3

459 prime factorization is 3 x 3 x 3 x 17

Acts Two - Two = 159
Verse Value = 1140
159 + 1140 = 1299 = 21 = 3

317th Prime = 2099 = 20 = 2
OK - that's a good point. You didn't arbitrarily pick that word. You found it in a verse.

Can you explain exactly how you got that verse? How long is the list of verses your method created? Where did you get the number 317?

Please explain in English what this particular "code" is supposed to mean, and why it is a "prophecy" that could only come from God.

Re: Verse 30027

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2026 8:05 pm
by SonOfZion232
RAMcGough wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2026 7:48 pm
SonOfZion232 wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2026 7:39 pm Because that is the word in the Greek that was translated into wind in this verse. what's with the this tense that tense nonsense following supposed to prove?

Wind = 50
Fifty = 66 = 12 = 3
πνοης = 408 = 12 = 3
Four Hundred Eight = 183 = 12 = 3

317) 66th Prime 12=3 _ (383) 14=5 - 76th Prime 13=4 (459) 18=9

Three Hundred Seventeen = (239) 14=5 - 52nd Prime 7 (291) 12=3 _ 9+3 (12) 3

459 prime factorization is 3 x 3 x 3 x 17

Acts Two - Two = 159
Verse Value = 1140
159 + 1140 = 1299 = 21 = 3

317th Prime = 2099 = 20 = 2
OK - that's a good point. You didn't arbitrarily pick that word. You found it in a verse.

Can you explain exactly how you got that verse? How long is the list of verses your method created? Where did you get the number 317?

Please explain in English what this particular "code" is supposed to mean, and why it is a "prophecy" that could only come from God.
The process method for every verse is the same in the original languages with only one difference the Hebrew and Aramaic word values are stacked from right to left for the first portion, and the Greek word values are stacked from left to right for the first portion. Everything from there is adding the verse numbers together consecutively through each portion until only one verse is left. The Methodology has been given many times since the start of sharing this here . Depending upon the number of words, determines the number of verses, always a Triangular number. Acts 2:2 is the 317th verse of the sequence out of 528 of which JESUS occurs in the last verse, some amazing symmetry there, but due to the severe wind outbreak today I focused on Wind, and Fire in the verses in the daughter of babylon. The USA

So simple, and yet how it is done escapes you, that's a mystery to me

Re: Verse 30027

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2026 8:11 pm
by RAMcGough
SonOfZion232 wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2026 8:05 pm
RAMcGough wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2026 7:48 pm
SonOfZion232 wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2026 7:39 pm Because that is the word in the Greek that was translated into wind in this verse. what's with the this tense that tense nonsense following supposed to prove?

Wind = 50
Fifty = 66 = 12 = 3
πνοης = 408 = 12 = 3
Four Hundred Eight = 183 = 12 = 3

317) 66th Prime 12=3 _ (383) 14=5 - 76th Prime 13=4 (459) 18=9

Three Hundred Seventeen = (239) 14=5 - 52nd Prime 7 (291) 12=3 _ 9+3 (12) 3

459 prime factorization is 3 x 3 x 3 x 17

Acts Two - Two = 159
Verse Value = 1140
159 + 1140 = 1299 = 21 = 3

317th Prime = 2099 = 20 = 2
OK - that's a good point. You didn't arbitrarily pick that word. You found it in a verse.

Can you explain exactly how you got that verse? How long is the list of verses your method created? Where did you get the number 317?

Please explain in English what this particular "code" is supposed to mean, and why it is a "prophecy" that could only come from God.
The process method for every verse is the same in the original languages with only one difference the Hebrew and Aramaic word values are stacked from right to left for the first portion, and the Greek word values are stacked from left to right for the first portion. Everything from there is adding the verse numbers together consecutively through each portion until only one verse is left. The Methodology has been given many times since the start of this method. Depending upon the number of words, determines the number of verses, always a Triangular number. Acts 2:2 is the 317th verse of the sequence out of 528 of which JESUS occurs in the last verse, some amazing symmetry there, but due to the severe wind outbreak today I focused on Wind, and Fire in the verses in the daughter of babylon. The USA
Excellent. Now we're tracking.

Given that you have 528 verses to choose, why did you pick verse 317?

And why would anyone think this method is "prophetic"? Can you explain what you think it means?

Re: Verse 30027

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2026 8:28 pm
by SonOfZion232
RAMcGough wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2026 8:11 pm
SonOfZion232 wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2026 8:05 pm
RAMcGough wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2026 7:48 pm
OK - that's a good point. You didn't arbitrarily pick that word. You found it in a verse.

Can you explain exactly how you got that verse? How long is the list of verses your method created? Where did you get the number 317?

Please explain in English what this particular "code" is supposed to mean, and why it is a "prophecy" that could only come from God.
The process method for every verse is the same in the original languages with only one difference the Hebrew and Aramaic word values are stacked from right to left for the first portion, and the Greek word values are stacked from left to right for the first portion. Everything from there is adding the verse numbers together consecutively through each portion until only one verse is left. The Methodology has been given many times since the start of this method. Depending upon the number of words, determines the number of verses, always a Triangular number. Acts 2:2 is the 317th verse of the sequence out of 528 of which JESUS occurs in the last verse, some amazing symmetry there, but due to the severe wind outbreak today I focused on Wind, and Fire in the verses in the daughter of babylon. The USA
Excellent. Now we're tracking.

Given that you have 528 verses to choose, why did you pick verse 317?

And why would anyone think this method is "prophetic"? Can you explain what you think it means?
We have been here before, so let me remind you

Remember when you asked the same thing about haman occurring on Purim, on the eve of Purim 2 times and the day of 1 time and not since. But why would you believe that there is anything prophetic, all prophecy has been fulfilled in your world. You are asking for something that you will never be convinced of, saying your preterist view does not affect how you evaluate things contrary to it is laughable, it really is.


Verses 30008 - 30019, occurrences of the name of haman in the Hidden Manna sequences.

30008 - 2 times in 1 verse. _ 59) 14=5 - 17th Prime 8 (76) 13=4

Verse 59) Verse 12820 | Est 8:2 = 10 - 4th Triangle

And the king took off his ring, which he had taken from haman, and gave it unto Mordecai. And Esther set Mordecai over the house of haman.

30009 - 0

30010 - 0

30011 - 0

30012 - 0

30013 - 0

30014 - 0

30015 - 0

30016 - 0

30017 - 0

30018 - 2 times in 2 verses

299) 20 = 2 \ Verse 12849 | Est 9:14 And the king commanded it so to be done: and the decree was given at Shushan; and they hanged haman's ten sons.
+102
401) Verse 12758 | Est 3:10 And the king took his ring from his hand, and gave it unto haman the son of Hammedatha the Agagite, the Jews' enemy.

Verse 30019 - 2 times in 1 verses _ 139) 13=4 - 34th Prime 7 - (173) 11 = 2 - 40th Prime 4 (213) 6

139) Verse 12820 | Est 8:2 = 10

And the king took off his ring, which he had taken from haman, and gave it unto Mordecai. And Esther set Mordecai over the house of haman. = 1128 = 12

30008 - 136 Verses 10 \ 16th Triangle
30009 - 210 Verses \ 20th Triangle
30010 - 105 Verses \ 14th Triangle
30011 - 171 Verses \ 18th Triangle
30012 - 91 Verses \ 13th Triangle
30013 - 120 Verses \ 15th Triangle
30014 - 91 Verses \ 13th Triangle
30015 - 36 Verses \ 8th Triangle
30016 - 120 Verses \ 15th Triangle
30017 - 210 Verses \ 20th Triangle
+10
30018 - 406 Verses 10 \ 28th Triangle 10 _ 7th Triangle

30008 - 59) 14 = 5 - 77 verses remaining 14 = 5

30018 - 299) 20 = 2 - 107 verses remaining 8 _ 28th Prime 10 (135) 9 _ 7th Triangle

30018 - 401) 5 - 5 verses remaining 5

Aleph~Taw

401 = 79th Prime = 22nd Prime (101) 26th Prime (127) 31st Prime (158) 14=5 "The Most High God = 158"
31 = 11th prime (42) 6

401+79 (480) 12 \ 20x24 _ Greek; YESHUA = 888 (24) 6

A1-Z26 ~ YESHUA = 79 - Alpha-Omega = 79 - God = 26
There are 22 Letters in the Hebrew alphabet
The Name YHWH in Hebrew = 26

Purim was during verses 30018 - 30019

The Book of Esther doesn't show up in a sequence for 7 days after Purim began

Verse 30025

31) Verse 12713 | Est 1:10 On the seventh day, when the heart of the king was merry with wine, he commanded Mehuman, Biztha, Harbona, Bigtha, and Abagtha, Zethar, and Carcas, the seven chamberlains that served in the presence of Ahasuerus the king,

and Esther did not occur in the last two days.
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Re: Verse 30027

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2026 8:52 pm
by RAMcGough
SonOfZion232 wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2026 8:28 pm We have been here before, so let me remind you

Remember when you asked the same thing about haman occurring on Purim, on the eve of Purim 2 times and the day of 1 time and not since. But why would you believe that there is anything prophetic, all prophecy has been fulfilled in your world. You are asking for something that you will never be convinced of, saying your preterist view does not affect how you evaluate things contrary to it is laughable, it really is.
Yes, we've already been here. You've been repeating the LUDICROUS LIE that I reject your claims because I believe "all prophecy has been fulfilled" even after I REMINDED YOU that I have NOT said that and I do NOT believe it and it has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with my challenges to your "codes". So if anyone needs to be "reminded" of things that have been said, it is YOU.

I didn't ask about that Purim post. But I see why you brought it up, since you can make a "case" for "prophecy" it it. That's fine. Maybe you found one hit out of thousand and thousands of random verses.


. But since you brought it up, I will REMIND YOU that I asked how the "hidden manna" works, and you didn't explain how it worked exactly, but you did say that you ran the algorithm for the last ten days and found 1696 verses. That's a lot of verses.
SonOfZion232 wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2026 8:28 pm
Verses 30008 - 30019, occurrences of the name of haman in the Hidden Manna sequences.

Verse 30019 - 2 times in 1 verses _ 139) 13=4 - 34th Prime 7 - (173) 11 = 2 - 40th Prime 4 (213) 6

139) Verse 12820 | Est 8:2 = 10

And the king took off his ring, which he had taken from haman, and gave it unto Mordecai. And Esther set Mordecai over the house of haman. = 1128 = 12

30008 - 2 times in 1 verse. _ 59) 14=5 - 17th Prime 8 (76) 13=4

Verse 59) Verse 12820 | Est 8:2 = 10 - 4th Triangle

And the king took off his ring, which he had taken from haman, and gave it unto Mordecai. And Esther set Mordecai over the house of haman.

30009 - 0

30010 - 0

30011 - 0

30012 - 0

30013 - 0

30014 - 0

30015 - 0

30016 - 0

30017 - 0

30018 - 2 times in 2 verses

299) 20 = 2 \ Verse 12849 | Est 9:14 And the king commanded it so to be done: and the decree was given at Shushan; and they hanged haman's ten sons.
+102
401) Verse 12758 | Est 3:10 And the king took his ring from his hand, and gave it unto haman the son of Hammedatha the Agagite, the Jews' enemy.

30008 - 136 Verses 10 \ 16th Triangle
30009 - 210 Verses \ 20th Triangle
30010 - 105 Verses \ 14th Triangle
30011 - 171 Verses \ 18th Triangle
30012 - 91 Verses \ 13th Triangle
30013 - 120 Verses \ 15th Triangle
30014 - 91 Verses \ 13th Triangle
30015 - 36 Verses \ 8th Triangle
30016 - 120 Verses \ 15th Triangle
30017 - 210 Verses \ 20th Triangle

+10
30018 - 406 Verses 10 \ 28th Triangle 10 _ 7th Triangle

30008 - 59) 14 = 5 - 77 verses remaining 14 = 5

30018 - 299) 20 = 2 - 107 verses remaining 8 _ 28th Prime 10 (135) 9 _ 7th Triangle

30018 - 401) 5 - 5 verses remaining 5

Aleph~Taw

401 = 79th Prime = 22nd Prime (101) 26th Prime (127) 31st Prime (158) 14=5 "The Most High God = 158"
31 = 11th prime (42) 6

401+79 (480) 12 \ 20x24 _ Greek; YESHUA = 888 (24) 6

A1-Z26 ~ YESHUA = 79 - Alpha-Omega = 79 - God = 26
There are 22 Letters in the Hebrew alphabet
The Name YHWH in Hebrew = 26

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Why did you list a bunch of verses followed by 0 and then a bunch of verses with triangle numbers?

Re: Verse 30027

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2026 8:59 pm
by SonOfZion232
RAMcGough wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2026 8:52 pm
SonOfZion232 wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2026 8:28 pm We have been here before, so let me remind you

Remember when you asked the same thing about haman occurring on Purim, on the eve of Purim 2 times and the day of 1 time and not since. But why would you believe that there is anything prophetic, all prophecy has been fulfilled in your world. You are asking for something that you will never be convinced of, saying your preterist view does not affect how you evaluate things contrary to it is laughable, it really is.
Yes, we've already been here. You've been repeating the LUDICROUS LIE that I reject your claims because I believe "all prophecy has been fulfilled" even after I REMINDED YOU that I have NOT said that and I do NOT believe it and it has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with my challenges to your "codes". So if anyone needs to be "reminded" of things that have been said, it is YOU.

I didn't ask about that Purim post. But I see why you brought it up, since you can make a "case" for "prophecy" it it. That's fine. Maybe you found one hit out of thousand and thousands of random verses.


. But since you brought it up, I will REMIND YOU that I asked how the "hidden manna" works, and you didn't explain how it worked exactly, but you did say that you ran the algorithm for the last ten days and found 1696 verses. That's a lot of verses.
SonOfZion232 wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2026 8:28 pm
Verses 30008 - 30019, occurrences of the name of haman in the Hidden Manna sequences.

Verse 30019 - 2 times in 1 verses _ 139) 13=4 - 34th Prime 7 - (173) 11 = 2 - 40th Prime 4 (213) 6

139) Verse 12820 | Est 8:2 = 10

And the king took off his ring, which he had taken from haman, and gave it unto Mordecai. And Esther set Mordecai over the house of haman. = 1128 = 12

30008 - 2 times in 1 verse. _ 59) 14=5 - 17th Prime 8 (76) 13=4

Verse 59) Verse 12820 | Est 8:2 = 10 - 4th Triangle

And the king took off his ring, which he had taken from haman, and gave it unto Mordecai. And Esther set Mordecai over the house of haman.

30009 - 0

30010 - 0

30011 - 0

30012 - 0

30013 - 0

30014 - 0

30015 - 0

30016 - 0

30017 - 0

30018 - 2 times in 2 verses

299) 20 = 2 \ Verse 12849 | Est 9:14 And the king commanded it so to be done: and the decree was given at Shushan; and they hanged haman's ten sons.
+102
401) Verse 12758 | Est 3:10 And the king took his ring from his hand, and gave it unto haman the son of Hammedatha the Agagite, the Jews' enemy.

30008 - 136 Verses 10 \ 16th Triangle
30009 - 210 Verses \ 20th Triangle
30010 - 105 Verses \ 14th Triangle
30011 - 171 Verses \ 18th Triangle
30012 - 91 Verses \ 13th Triangle
30013 - 120 Verses \ 15th Triangle
30014 - 91 Verses \ 13th Triangle
30015 - 36 Verses \ 8th Triangle
30016 - 120 Verses \ 15th Triangle
30017 - 210 Verses \ 20th Triangle

+10
30018 - 406 Verses 10 \ 28th Triangle 10 _ 7th Triangle

30008 - 59) 14 = 5 - 77 verses remaining 14 = 5

30018 - 299) 20 = 2 - 107 verses remaining 8 _ 28th Prime 10 (135) 9 _ 7th Triangle

30018 - 401) 5 - 5 verses remaining 5

Aleph~Taw

401 = 79th Prime = 22nd Prime (101) 26th Prime (127) 31st Prime (158) 14=5 "The Most High God = 158"
31 = 11th prime (42) 6

401+79 (480) 12 \ 20x24 _ Greek; YESHUA = 888 (24) 6

A1-Z26 ~ YESHUA = 79 - Alpha-Omega = 79 - God = 26
There are 22 Letters in the Hebrew alphabet
The Name YHWH in Hebrew = 26

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Why did you list a bunch of verses followed by 0 and then a bunch of verses with triangle numbers?


Because haman didn't occur in any of the verses on those days, and the number of verses possible for each day is given, You said there are 406 verses, and it would expected that the book of Esther would show up 2 times. So to show that it was not as you said, I made a table showing how many verses in between where haman did not occur as randomly as you imagined,..

Purim was during verses 30018 - 30019

The Book of Esther didn't show up in a sequence for 7 days after Purim began

Verse 30025

31) Verse 12713 | Est 1:10

On the seventh day, when the heart of the king was merry with wine, he commanded Mehuman, Biztha, Harbona, Bigtha, and Abagtha, Zethar, and Carcas, the seven chamberlains that served in the presence of Ahasuerus the king,

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30008 - 2 times in 1 verse. _ 59) 14=5 - 17th Prime 8 (76) 13=4

Verse 59) Verse 12820 | Est 8:2 = 10

And the king took off his ring, which he had taken from haman, and gave it unto Mordecai. And Esther set Mordecai over the house of haman.

+10 days

30018 - 2 times in 2 verses - 406 verses 10 - 28th Triangle 10

299) 20 = 2 \ Verse 12849 | Est 9:14 = 23

And the king commanded it so to be done: and the decree was given at Shushan; and they hanged haman's ten sons.

+102

401) Verse 12758 | Est 3:10 = 13 ___ Difference = 10

And the king took his ring from his hand, and gave it unto haman the son of Hammedatha the Agagite, the Jews' enemy.

Verse 30019 - 2 times in 1 verses _ 139) 13=4 - 34th Prime 7 - (173) 11 = 2 - 40th Prime 4 (213) 6

139) Verse 12820 | Est 8:2 = 10

And the king took off his ring, which he had taken from haman, and gave it unto Mordecai. And Esther set Mordecai over the house of haman.

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