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Posted: **Thu Mar 12, 2026 12:53 am**

bluetriangle wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2026 12:00 am

So are you saying your esoteric interpretation of the words is pointing to the source of gematria. The gematria in the MT of those words is 460 (209 + 251), since all rhema words are imbued with numerical properties.

I thought the source of all speech to be the "ed" mentioned in Genesis 2:6,

וְאֵ֖ד יַֽעֲלֶ֣ה מִן־הָאָ֑רֶץ וְהִשְׁקָ֖ה אֶת־כָּל־פְּנֵ֥י הָֽאֲדָמָֽה

since Genesis 2:5 had
וְכֹ֣ל | שִׂ֣יחַ הַשָּׂדֶ֗ה טֶ֚רֶם יִֽהְיֶ֣ה בָאָ֔רֶץ
and all "siach" of the field when it was not yet on the earth

"siach" can mean bush, shrub, but also conversation ,speech
https://www.sefaria.org/Klein_Dictionar ... .1?lang=bi

the bush of Exodus 3 was also a "siach"

https://x.com/Minkmaat/status/1673313508404998145
the first conversation ("siach") took place between the snake and the woman, Genesis 3:1-5, leading to the eating of the forbidden fruit with the consequence of death

Posted: **Thu Mar 12, 2026 7:08 pm**

bluetriangle wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2026 9:24 am The Koch snowflake iterates we've been discussing connect T37 to T112, and through that connection, Genesis 1.1 to John 1.1, and in three ways. Here is Richard's table again, showing the iterates arising from the first few stars.

RAM Table.png

The second iteration of hexagram 937 is snowflake 9373, which is also created from T112 (= 6328 = G1.1 + J1.1).

Koch Snowflake function:
Starting figure triangle 6328
First iteration: hexagram 8437
Second Iteration: snowflake 9373

Creation function:
Starting figure hexagram 937
First iteration: anti-snowflake 3751
Second Iteration: snowflake 9373

The first connection between the two verses is this:

1. 937 is the first iteration of a Koch snowflake from triangle 703 (G1.1, wds 6 + 7)
2. By the Creation function, which gives the same snowflakes as in Richard's table, snowflake 9373 is generated from 7 copies of hexagram 937 and 6 copies of hexagon 469.
3. 937 and 469 are encoded in G1.1 by sum and difference, when the verse is split into a 2-3-2 pattern.

The second connection is that 9373 is a concatenation of the larger factors of G1,1 (37 x 73) and J1.1 (39 x 93).

The third connection is that snowflake 9373 is a larger version of snowflake 373. Both are two iterations from triangles 253 (T22) and 6328 (T112), or, by the Creation function, from hexgrams 37 (Hgr 3) and 937 (Hgr 13).

Here is snowflake 9373 in all its glory.

Snowflake 9373.png

As I showed earlier in the thread, the last two words of G1.1 (703), when added to J1.1, give trefoil 4330, which is the antisnowflake for the first iteration of triangle 6328, hexagram 8437. In fact that's a fourth connection.

Great work Bill! Do you draw those Koch Snowflake iterations by hand or programmatically?

You are correct it is T(112) but that's really the 38th "generating triangle" in the sense that only triangles T(n) with n = 3k -2 can generate hex/star pairs because they are the only triangles with a circle at the centroid (as I'm sure you know). 112 = 3 x 38 - 2

Have you found the number 9373 encoded, or just the hex/star pair (469/937) that are used in the equation 9373 = 7x973 + 6X469?

I find it very interesting that 73 is the largest prime in Genesis 1:1 and 93 is the largest semiprime in the symmetric representation of John 1:1

Genesis 1:1 = 37 x 73
John 1:1 = 39 x 93

Posted: **Fri Mar 13, 2026 12:52 am**

RAMcGough wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2026 7:08 pm
Great work Bill! Do you draw those Koch Snowflake iterations by hand or programmatically?

I do them by hand. I like to roll my sleeves up and get digging, rather than rely on programming.

RAMcGough wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2026 7:08 pm You are correct it is T(112) but that's really the 38th "generating triangle" in the sense that only triangles T(n) with n = 3k -2 can generate hex/star pairs because they are the only triangles with a circle at the centroid (as I'm sure you know). 112 = 3 x 38 - 2.

Yes, I'm aware of that. Vernon called them G-triangles and I use that nomenclature. I call the two other types G1 and G2 triangles. Interestingly, although only G-triangles can be taken one or more steps towards a pixellated Koch snowflake, all types will produce trefoils, although again only G-triangles can be taken more than one step towards an antisnowflake. I'll maybe do a post on it later, given the importance of snowflakes and trefoils in the geometric expression of the encoded numbers in G1.1 and J1.1. It's interesting

All centred triangles will create hexagrams and trefoils and their own kind of snowflakes. There's an entire world to explore here and I've seen virtually nothing on it anywhere else on the 'net.

RAMcGough wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2026 7:08 pm Have you found the number 9373 encoded, or just the hex/star pair (469/937) that are used in the equation 9373 = 7x973 + 6X469?

No I haven't, just by inference in triangle 6328 and the Logos star.

RAMcGough wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2026 7:08 pmI find it very interesting that 73 is the largest prime in Genesis 1:1 and 93 is the largest semiprime in the symmetric representation of John 1:1.

Genesis 1:1 = 37 x 73
John 1:1 = 39 x 93

Yes, I noted that myself. I found their product, 6789, somewhere, but I can't recall where now! I'll have a look for it.

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