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RAMcGough wrote: Mon Feb 23, 2026 10:26 pm Hi Bill,

I got curious about the triangles you found in Genesis 1.1. My intuition was that the numbers are based on letter counts, which tend to be very small and clustered around the number 4, and so triangles are probably very common. In G1.1 the numbers are 6,3,5,2,5,3,4 so the average is exactly 28/7 = 4 letters per word.

Hi Richard.

I hope all is going well with your site-updating efforts.

Your analysis is about what I expected (I've done a little analysis on it too).

However, what's remarkable about the pattern I showed is not the number of triangles found, which as you say is well above average but not enough on its own to raise eyebrows, but the mirroring. I didn't see it myself at first, but that was because I hadn't included the two centred triangles found in the verse by the same method. I see you haven't included them either. Including these two triangles gives a total of eleven triangles, in five pairs, mirrored about the centre of the verse, with T7 in the centre.

The pairs are
T2/T2 in words 2 and 6
T4/T4 over words 2,3,4 and 6,5,4
T5/T5 over words 2,3,4,5 and words 6,5,4,3

The above forms a pattern within the pattern, all involving words 2 and 6 and of course suggesting YHVH. Note that the mirroring is perfect, using the same triangle for each pair.

In addition there are
T3/CT2 in words 1 and 7
T5/CT4 over words 1,2,3,4,5 and words 7,6,5,4,3

This forms the mirrored pattern I showed in my first post and which I've posted again below. I've centered each triangle over the word string that cancels it. So triangle 10 is centred over words 2,3,4 and words 6,5 4.

There's a reason for the mirroring, which I explain in my new book (the version I sent you was before I made this last-minute find).

You refuse to see the design at work here and you even misunderstand things.
And you have the audacity to complain about my language when you were the one swearing here earlier using words like "what the hell" x2 times.

What am I supposed to get from (108 = perimeter of Tri(37))-gonal(10), which is actually the perimeter of a 108-gon, as you just said above? Where is the clarity?

I have never said it is a perimeter of 108-gon. I said 108-gonal(10) is a polygon with 108 sides at the order of 10.
That means that (108 = perimeter of Tri(37))-gonal(10) is still a polygon with 108 sides at the order of 10.
It is the number of sides that connects to the perimeter of Tri(37).

So let me tell you what, I am going to write in my own language now since you are half Nordic and you can learn a bit about the other language that runs through your blood. Use google translate and I am not going to wirte more in Norwegian than this.

Klarer ikke du å forstå at det ytre laget i kodene som blir representert av standard systemet og 1998 I trekant 73 blir koblet til det første og siste ordet (FLW)?
Å at ordinal systemet er koblet til midten igjennom trekant 37 plassert I trekant 73 på grunn av "visdom" (o) = 37?
Er det da så vanskelig å forstå at Gud liker å koble FLW til det ytre laget og CW til midten?

Alex wrote: Tue Feb 24, 2026 3:17 am You refuse to see the design at work here and you even misunderstand things.
And you have the audacity to complain about my language when you were the one swearing here earlier using words like "what the hell" x2 times.

What am I supposed to get from (108 = perimeter of Tri(37))-gonal(10), which is actually the perimeter of a 108-gon, as you just said above? Where is the clarity?

I have never said it is a perimeter of 108-gon. I said 108-gonal(10) is a polygon with 108 sides at the order of 10.
That means that (108 = perimeter of Tri(37))-gonal(10) is still a polygon with 108 sides at the order of 10.
It is the number of sides that connects to the perimeter of Tri(37).

I was complaining about your lack of clarity. Anyway, 'hell' is Biblical

Alex wrote: Tue Feb 24, 2026 3:17 amSo let me tell you what, I am going to write in my own language now since you are half Nordic and you can learn a bit about the other language that runs through your blood. Use google translate and I am not going to wirte more in Norwegian than this.

Klarer ikke du å forstå at det ytre laget i kodene som blir representert av standard systemet og 1998 I trekant 73 blir koblet til det første og siste ordet (FLW)?
Å at ordinal systemet er koblet til midten igjennom trekant 37 plassert I trekant 73 på grunn av "visdom" (o) = 37?
Er det da så vanskelig å forstå at Gud liker å koble FLW til det ytre laget og CW til midten?

That's no less understandable than the rest of what you write. You want me to take a tutorial your terminology. Why should I? You have never given me any reason to learn it, because you have never shown that you have a code. There is the odd bit and piece here and there, and you are to be commended for that. But the bulk of it is nothing more than a database of numerical and geometric properties, with random links between the numbers, and systems that you seem to invent as you go along. I'm still waiting for you to show me an actual code.

I'll tell you what: show me your very best evidence.

bluetriangle wrote: Tue Feb 24, 2026 3:06 am Hi Richard.

I hope all is going well with your site-updating efforts.

Thanks! It has been strangely difficult. I've been working with software for many years, but keep bumping into issues that slow me down. Feels like I'm jogging in mud. I don't know if its spiritual opposition or God teaching me to rely on Him rather than my own strength and understanding. It's probably the latter.

bluetriangle wrote: Tue Feb 24, 2026 3:06 am Your analysis is about what I expected (I've done a little analysis on it too).

That's what I like about your approach.

bluetriangle wrote: Tue Feb 24, 2026 3:06 amHowever, what's remarkable about the pattern I showed is not the number of triangles found, which as you say is well above average but not enough on its own to raise eyebrows, but the mirroring. I didn't see it myself at first, but that was because I hadn't included the two centred triangles found in the verse by the same method. I see you haven't included them either. Including these two triangles gives a total of eleven triangles, in five pairs, mirrored about the centre of the verse, with T7 in the centre.

The pairs are
T2/T2 in words 2 and 6
T4/T4 over words 2,3,4 and 6,5,4
T5/T5 over words 2,3,4,5 and words 6,5,4,3

The above forms a pattern within the pattern, all involving words 2 and 6 and of course suggesting YHVH. Note that the mirroring is perfect, using the same triangle for each pair.

Yes, the mirroring of the letter counts is intriguing. 4 3 5 2 5 3 6 I think this is part of the infinite beauty of the first verse.

The central five letter counts forms a palindrome 3 5 2 5 3 which is striking since the primary structure is based on the palindromic primes 37/73 and mirror symmetry is very important in the geometric derivation of those numbers as the self-intersection of T(10) = 55 and it's reflection.

bluetriangle wrote: Tue Feb 24, 2026 3:06 am In addition there are
T3/CT2 in words 1 and 7
T5/CT4 over words 1,2,3,4,5 and words 7,6,5,4,3

This forms the mirrored pattern I showed in my first post and which I've posted again below. I've centered each triangle over the word string that cancels it. So triangle 10 is centred over words 2,3,4 and words 6,5 4.

There's a reason for the mirroring, which I explain in my new book (the version I sent you was before I made this last-minute find).

I think my problem is that I don't see any meaning in merely collecting triangles. It reminds me of the Game of Four Fours, where the goal is to express every natural number as a combination of four fours. E.g.

1 = (4x4)/(4x4),
2 = (4x4)/(4+4)
3 = (4+4+4)/4

etc.

I get the same feeling from John Elias' book "Proof of God" - he finds a way to express almost every number in terms of hexagon symmetry. The problem is we can write almost any number that way. He starts with the hexagon/star sequences and then adds or removes dots to get the number he wants. For example, 6 = non-centered hexagon, 7 = centered hexagon, 13 = star, 12 = star with central dot removed, etc., etc., etc. Is there any number that can't be expressed this way?

In any case, I really appreciate your thoughtful responses and look forward to talking more.

God bless you!

Richard

I don't know the best evidence for that but I can do some research on it and then pick something from that.
Let's see now:

"In the beginning God created the heaven" (H s) = 1998 = (198 = Primes up to number 37 = red Vs(703 = Tri(37))) w. ext...
"and the earth" (H o) = 73

std Vs(1998) = 5179 = Pri(691 = 395 "the heaven" (H s) + 296 "the earth" (H s))
ord Vs(73) = 307+703

FLW of std Vs(1998) + CW of ord Vs(73) = 698 (6698 = Squ(37) + Squ(73))

Integration of std Vs(1998) & ord Vs(703)
No.W = 34 = Pri-o(137 (i. α))
No.L = 125 = Pri-o(7) x Pri-o(7) x Pri-o(7)
No.W + No.L = 159 "universe codes" (E o)
TV = 5764 = TriHepta(44 = Happy(3+7)) = 5400 + 7+7+7 + 7x7x7
FLW = 737 = Palin(83 "In the beginning" (E r)) [73 merged with it's mirror connected to the outer layer]
CW = 104 "the earth and" (E o) [the earth & ordinal connected to the center. "the earth" (296 = 8x 37) is connected to 37.]
FLCW = 841 "the universe" ο συμπαν
2 FLW = 1718 = 1500 + (218 "codes" (E o+s) = Semiprime(73 "of wisdom"))
3 CW = 913 "In the beginning" (H s)
2 FLW + 3 CW = 2631 = 2000 + C.Tri(7+7+7) = Pri-o(23629 = Happy-o(297535 = Teraflake(7+7+7)))
A Teraflake is the next evolution of a Gigaflake in the same way as a Megaflake is the next evolution of a Snowflake.
This kind of geometry is valid and has been tested with verse integrations by me. You get extremely amazing results there.

37 = code number for 777

Integration of std Vs(1209 = FLW of Gen 1:1) & ord Vs(401 = CW of Gen 1:1 )
TV = 3478 = 37x73 + 777
FLW = 557 = 57 "heaven" שמים (o) w. ext...
CW = 520 = (E r) "and" 10 x 52 "earth" (E o)
FLCW = 1077 = 107 "seven hundred seventy seven" (E r) w. ext...
2 FLW = 1568 "God the heaven the earth" (H Fs) = 1500 + 68 "seven hundred seventy and seven" (H r)

Verse# (55 "heaven" (E o) = Tri(3+7) = Hepta(5 = PP-o(37)))
TV = 2837 = Pri(413 = mirror of 314 "seven hundred seventy seven" (E o))
FLW = 113 "universe" (E o)
CW = 407 "and" ואת
FLCW = 520 = 10x 52 "earth" (E o)

Which one of these is best? Well, let me think about that until tomorrow and let me do more research before I give you an answer.

Alex wrote: Tue Feb 24, 2026 5:38 am I don't know the best evidence for that but I can do some research on it and then pick something from that.
Let's see now:

"In the beginning God created the heaven" (H s) = 1998 = (198 = Primes up to number 37 = red Vs(703 = Tri(37))) w. ext...
"and the earth" (H o) = 73

std Vs(1998) = 5179 = Pri(691 = 395 "the heaven" (H s) + 296 "the earth" (H s))
ord Vs(73) = 307+703

Hi Alex,

It takes a lot of effort to understand the "connections" you are finding/creating. But let me try:

1) "In the beginning God created the heaven" (H s) = 1998 [True, and easy to understand]

2) 198 = Primes up to number 37 [This only works if you are including 1 as a prime, but if you do that, you break other patterns like 37/73 having mirrored prime indexes of 12/21. Do you take 1 as prime or not? Are you consistent on this point?]

3) = red Vs(703 = Tri(37))) w. ext... [I understand you are "extending" the number 198 to 1998. That looks like a "fudge factor" to me. It lets you make up arbitrary "connections" between random numbers by arbitrarily inserting random numbers. You could have "extended" 198 with another 1 or another 8 or whatever you want. The problem is that the "code" you think you "found" is not actually there. You put it there. It's all in your own mind.]

Please don't take offense (as none is intended) but here is how it seems to me: All your pages and pages of "connections" have the same fundamental flaw. It looks like you are drawing random lines between random stars and claiming your constellations are "really there". They are not. How many people would find the same patterns using your method? I would guess maybe they'd find about 1% overlap. The rest would be totally subjective, idiosyncratic and random. This is a mathematically necessity that follows from the vast ocean of random numbers your methods produce. There's no way any two people could independently come to the same conclusions in the vast majority of "connections".

RAMcGough wrote: Tue Feb 24, 2026 5:37 am

bluetriangle wrote: Tue Feb 24, 2026 3:06 amHowever, what's remarkable about the pattern I showed is not the number of triangles found, which as you say is well above average but not enough on its own to raise eyebrows, but the mirroring. I didn't see it myself at first, but that was because I hadn't included the two centred triangles found in the verse by the same method. I see you haven't included them either. Including these two triangles gives a total of eleven triangles, in five pairs, mirrored about the centre of the verse, with T7 in the centre.

The pairs are
T2/T2 in words 2 and 6
T4/T4 over words 2,3,4 and 6,5,4
T5/T5 over words 2,3,4,5 and words 6,5,4,3

The above forms a pattern within the pattern, all involving words 2 and 6 and of course suggesting YHVH. Note that the mirroring is perfect, using the same triangle for each pair.

Yes, the mirroring of the letter counts is intriguing. 4 3 5 2 5 3 6 I think this is part of the infinite beauty of the first verse.

Yes, I think it is too. On 6352534 and 4352536, these have interesting factors if you read them as numbers.

6352534 = 314 x 20231 Shaddai/Almighty = 314
4352536 = 386 x 11276 Yeshua/Jesus = 386

RAMcGough wrote: Tue Feb 24, 2026 5:37 amThe central five letter counts forms a palindrome 3 5 2 5 3 which is striking since the primary structure is based on the palindromic primes 37/73 and mirror symmetry is very important in the geometric derivation of those numbers as the self-intersection of T(10) = 55 and it's reflection.

Yes, and the central 525 is also a palindrome. In fact the three words at the centre of Genesis 1.1, from word positional values, letter sums and word sums, give us Aleph-Tav (401), Alpha-Omega (801), El Shaddai (345), I AM That I AM (543), The Lord of Hosts (525) and The Holy God (446) all in word or letter patterns, symmetrical about the central Aleph-Tav.

This is the Glory of the Lord appearing between the two cherubim, because Genesis 1.1 is a numerical ark, representing the Ark of the Covenant. Where are the two cherubim? They are symbolized by a cornucopia of fractal geometry either side of the centre. The mirrored triangles I showed are the beginning of this phenomenon. Another example is shown below, two Koch anti snowflakes, formed from triangles 496 and 946 by strict application of the Koch anti snowflake process to digital images. There are several more, including Sierpinski triangles.

Fractals are ideal vehicles for representing the cherubim, visually and symbolically, because even the cherubim are created beings and Creation is influenced by fractal geometry.

RAMcGough wrote: Tue Feb 24, 2026 5:37 amI get the same feeling from John Elias' book "Proof of God" - he finds a way to express almost every number in terms of hexagon symmetry. The problem is we can write almost any number that way. He starts with the hexagon/star sequences and then adds or removes dots to get the number he wants. For example, 6 = non-centered hexagon, 7 = centered hexagon, 13 = star, 12 = star with central dot removed, etc., etc., etc. Is there any number that can't be expressed this way?

Yes, he goes too far. He's done a lot of good work, but some of his constructions seem manipulated and not the result of natural geometric transformations. It's relatively easy to create snowflakes by adding counters in symmetrical patterns. Any number which is one more than a multiple of 3 could be shown as some kind of antisnowflake and any number one more than a multiple of 6 as a hexagonal snowflake. But the snowflakes and anti snowflakes I display are found by strict application of the Koch snowflake and antisnwflake processes.

I feel the same about the 'codes' he and others have found in pi (with one exception in John's case, which I think is genuine). Quite a few researchers think there are codes in the decimal digits of pi, but it's generated by a fixed formula and can't be encoded. Certain digit sequences within it might have been taken advantage of (which is why I believe John's discovery of 58 (Yehoshua (o)) and 57 (HaMashiach (o)) in the very early digits of pi are genuine. But I see people posting 'findings' of numbers beginning at the 20,000th digit, or the like. Of course they will. The further into the decimal digits we go the more likely something apparently spectacular will be found.

Anyway, good talking.

Alex wrote: Tue Feb 24, 2026 5:38 am I don't know the best evidence for that but I can do some research on it and then pick something from that.
Let's see now:

"In the beginning God created the heaven" (H s) = 1998 = (198 = Primes up to number 37 = red Vs(703 = Tri(37))) w. ext...
"and the earth" (H o) = 73

That's some of your best evidence? You've made two mistakes.

1. The sum of G1.1, wds 1-5 is 1998, not 198. You can't just throw away a 9 because it suits you.
2. The sum of primes up to 37 is 197, not 198. 1 is not a prime number.

I call them mistakes, but they aren't mistakes, they are you thinking you can ignore the rules of arithmetic. Your problem is your ego.

Well, I hope you can come up with better by tomorrow.

I always use 1 as the first prime.
And since you joined the debate here Richard, I think you should go get Leo also so that it will be a fair fight for you guys.
I have the blood of Benajmin which is the same blood as the author of the book that tells us about the king who ate grass for 7 years.
You guys are the Tribe of Joseph and you need more than two to beat a Benjamite.
So I will give him 24 hours to come here and join you and then we will see who lacks wisdom here.

Alex wrote: Wed Feb 25, 2026 4:16 am I always use 1 as the first prime.

Alex, this is mad hatter territory. The first prime is 2. I understand why you might want it to be 1. I did too. It offends my sense of order that it's 2. But people who understand number theory better than I do had good reasons to make it 2 and I accept their judgment. More importantly, any codes involving prime numbers will use the standard definition of 2 as the first prime for indexing subsequent primes. That was the conclusion I came to when I investigated it 20-odd years ago.

It isn't contest either, of any kind. It is now an investigation of your work. You post a lot and put on acres of numbers (although you're not alone in that). But quantity can never substitute for quality. A short, precise post often has more impact than a long a winding trail of numbers, often leading nowhere.

Listen Alex, I'm on your side here. I know you have a talent with numbers and I genuinely want to see you develop it in a way that glorifies God. But on the whole, and with the honorable exception of your very useful software, you are not doing that. You are wasting your time and energy creating what is essentially a junkyard of randomly-connected numbers and it's a crying shame to see your time and talents wasted in this way, although as ever I applaud any good work you have done. I will add that you are not alone now. There are others now posting who are sailing off course too. it's turning into a flotilla in fact.