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gregoryfl
12-22-2008, 03:11 AM
Rev 13:8 And all who are dwelling on the earth will be worshiping it, everyone whose name is not written in the scroll of [the] life of the Lamb slain from the disruption of the world."

I just noticed something tonight when reading this verse. Most translations, at least the many I was able to check, all speak of "the book of life of the lamb." In the Greek however, there are 3, not 2, definite articles. It literally is "the scroll of the life of the lamb." I wonder, could this scroll actually not be a scroll with just a list of names on it, like we have always been taught? What if it is actually a scroll containing the events and happenings, the very life of Jesus himself as he lives now, in you and me, similar to the gospels and book of Acts?

That gives a whole new twist to the concept of our names being found in that scroll, for instead of just looking down a static list of names in alphabetical order, the Father reads about Jesus' life being lived throughout history, like a gripping novel, and then at a certain place he comes across Jesus in your life, and in my life, and it too is fascinating as he reads about all the ways in which Christ manifested his life in and through us.

I do not have any confirmation from anyone else I have read about this subject that this is indeed the right understanding of the scroll of life, but I do think it is a possibility.

Ron

Rose
12-22-2008, 09:06 AM
Rev 13:8 And all who are dwelling on the earth will be worshiping it, everyone whose name is not written in the scroll of [the] life of the Lamb slain from the disruption of the world."

I just noticed something tonight when reading this verse. Most translations, at least the many I was able to check, all speak of "the book of life of the lamb." In the Greek however, there are 3, not 2, definite articles. It literally is "the scroll of the life of the lamb." I wonder, could this scroll actually not be a scroll with just a list of names on it, like we have always been taught? What if it is actually a scroll containing the events and happenings, the very life of Jesus himself as he lives now, in you and me, similar to the gospels and book of Acts?

That gives a whole new twist to the concept of our names being found in that scroll, for instead of just looking down a static list of names in alphabetical order, the Father reads about Jesus' life being lived throughout history, like a gripping novel, and then at a certain place he comes across Jesus in your life, and in my life, and it too is fascinating as he reads about all the ways in which Christ manifested his life in and through us.

I do not have any confirmation from anyone else I have read about this subject that this is indeed the right understanding of the scroll of life, but I do think it is a possibility.

Ron

I think you are right on track Ron. :thumb:

The Scroll that is spoken of in Rev. 13, is the same Scroll of Rev.5:1. A number of years ago God gave me a wonderful insight into that verse.
Rev. 5:1 "And I saw in the right hand of him that sat on the throne a book written within and on the backside, sealed with seven seals."
The book that is written on the backside and within is actually a scroll. The Bible Wheel (the Bible) is a representation of that Scroll, with the "Seven Seals" being the seven divisions of the Canon which display the Tri Radiant Halo when the Scroll is rolled up, thus representing the divinity of Christ.

The Bible is indeed a living book.....the Bible Wheel displays that living book in a new dimension....it adds "time" into the picture, it is a book for all time containing the fullness of time, marked with the Seal of the living God.
Rev. 7:2 "And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea,"God Bless,

Rose

Bob May
12-22-2008, 09:09 AM
Rev 13:8 And all who are dwelling on the earth will be worshiping it, everyone whose name is not written in the scroll of [the] life of the Lamb slain from the disruption of the world."

I just noticed something tonight when reading this verse. Most translations, at least the many I was able to check, all speak of "the book of life of the lamb." In the Greek however, there are 3, not 2, definite articles. It literally is "the scroll of the life of the lamb." I wonder, could this scroll actually not be a scroll with just a list of names on it, like we have always been taught? What if it is actually a scroll containing the events and happenings, the very life of Jesus himself as he lives now, in you and me, similar to the gospels and book of Acts?

That gives a whole new twist to the concept of our names being found in that scroll, for instead of just looking down a static list of names in alphabetical order, the Father reads about Jesus' life being lived throughout history, like a gripping novel, and then at a certain place he comes across Jesus in your life, and in my life, and it too is fascinating as he reads about all the ways in which Christ manifested his life in and through us.

I do not have any confirmation from anyone else I have read about this subject that this is indeed the right understanding of the scroll of life, but I do think it is a possibility.

Ron

Hi Ron, Rose and all,

I do not see the book of Life as a list of names, rather as the living knowledge of the Father that we have lost because of and as a result of the Fall. The best, most complete collection of this "knowledge" of the Father can be found in what we call the Bible because it is mainly about the Father and the Son who declares Him.

In the "Gospel of Truth" in the Nag Hammadi Library, Valentinus the author points out that if we can read it, our names are written in it. If we get "revelation" from the "Book of Life", the Bible, we must be alive and written in the Lamb's Book of Life". It is gibberish to those who are not born of the Spirit.

http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/got.html

"For this reason Jesus appeared; he put on that book; he was nailed to a tree; he published the edict of the Father on the cross. O such great teaching! He draws himself down to death, though life eternal clothes him. Having stripped himself of the perishable rags, he put on imperishability, which no one can possibly take away from him. Having entered the empty spaces of terrors, he passed through those who were stripped naked by oblivion, being knowledge and perfection, proclaiming the things that are in the heart, [...] teach those who will receive teaching.

But those who are to receive teaching are the living, who are inscribed in the book of the living. It is about themselves that they receive instruction, receiving it from the Father, turning again to him. Since the perfection of the totality is in the Father, it is necessary for the totality to ascend to him. Then, if one has knowledge, he receives what are his own, and draws them to himself. For he who is ignorant is in need, and what he lacks is great, since he lacks that which will make him perfect. Since the perfection of the totality is in the Father, and it is necessary for the totality to ascend to him, and for each one to receive what are his own, he enrolled them in advance, having prepared them to give to those who came forth from him."

Bob