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shawn
12-16-2008, 04:49 AM
The gospel of John is directed mostly to "the Jews"....he uses this phrase many times through out the book. For example John 5 shows that the Jews will obtain mercy from the Lord through the healing of the lame man at the pool of Bethesda. It is a literal event that happened to illustrate a future event...that has yet to happen:

John 5:1 After this there was a feast of the Jews; and Jesus went up to Jerusalem.
2 Now there is at Jerusalem by the sheep market a pool, which is called in the Hebrew tongue Bethesda, having five porches.

"Bethesda" means "house of mercy"....for God will have mercy on the Jews.

(Rom 11:31 KJV) Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy.

TO BE CONTINUED.....

The 5 porches are symbolic for the five books of Moses that testify of the life found in the Lord. The Jews entered not into the Life of God....into the kingdom of heaven....because of unbelief of what Moses wrote and the testimony of John the Baptist as well as Jesus. They were left to wander in the spiritual desert.....the great multitude of "impotent, blind , halt, and withered" signifies this:

3 In these lay a great multitude of impotent folk, of blind, halt, withered, waiting for the moving of the water.

The "angel" went down at at "certain season" to trouble the water in the pool:

4 For an angel went down at a certain season into the pool, and troubled the water: whosoever then first after the troubling of the water stepped in was made whole of whatsoever disease he had.

The "angel" was John the Baptist.....John was referred to as an angel or messenger. The word "messenger" is "aggelos" or "angel:"

(Mat 11:10 KJV) For this is he, of whom it is written, Behold, I send my messenger before thy face, which shall prepare thy way before thee.

John the Baptist came to bare witness to the truth.....he "troubled the water." If we look at John chapter 5 as a whole, we see what is illustrated by the healing of the lame man within the same chapter. Jesus shows us that "angel' who came at a "certain season" is John the Baptist...who for a "season" was a burning and shining light:

John 5: 33 Ye sent unto John, and he bare witness unto the truth.
34 But I receive not testimony from man: but these things I say, that ye might be saved.
35 He was a burning and a shining light: and ye were willing for a season to rejoice in his light.

Jesus also shows us within the same chapter that the "5 porches" are the writings of Moses who testify of Jesus:

39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
40 And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.

And again....the 5 porches = the 5 books of Moses:

45 Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father: there is one that accuseth you, even Moses, in whom ye trust.
46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me.
47 But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?

gregoryfl
12-16-2008, 02:03 PM
Shawn,

Interesting possible sod understanding of this account. I will be considering it. Thanks!

Ron

Victor
12-16-2008, 02:46 PM
It is very nice, shawn! This interpretation of the five porches signifying the five books of the Torah (Pentateuch) in John 5 goes back to the fifth century, when Augustine explained it more than once ([1] (http://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/npnf107.iii.xviii.html),[2] (http://www.clerus.org/bibliaclerusonline/en/b12.htm)). For example:

I am speaking briefly. That water was the Jewish people; the five porches were the Law. For Moses wrote five books. Therefore was the water enclosed by five porches as that people was held in by the Law.
This seems to be reinforced by the fact that at the end of this chapter Christ specifically mentions "his writings" (Moses'), as you quoted.

OTOH, he interprets the Angel as Christ, not John the Baptist. BTW, I should mention that the underlying Greek words for "season" in John 5 that you mention are distinct, so it doesn't seem to be a literary connection between the two passages.

It is very interesting to note that the canonical Johaninne corpus comprises five books (1, 2, 3 John, the Fourth Gospel and Revelation) and they seem to be a counterpart of the book structure of the Torah. This reminds of John's Prologue:

Joh 1:17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.
One one side, the Law (as emphasized by Moses); on the other, grace and truth (as emphasized by John). It is also very interesting that Christian Tradition relates the Number Five with Grace. And the first occurence of the word "Life" in the Bible is in the Fifth Day of Creation.

And here's a Bible Wheel article about John 5 (http://www.biblewheel.com/InnerWheels/John/John05.asp).

Victor

shawn
12-17-2008, 06:48 PM
Thanks for considering!

Part II. And continuing with the healing of the lame man...

5 And a certain man was there, which had an infirmity thirty and eight years.
6 When Jesus saw him lie, and knew that he had been now a long time in that case, he saith unto him, Wilt thou be made whole?
7 The impotent man answered him, Sir, I have no man, when the water is troubled, to put me into the pool: but while I am coming, another steppeth down before me.

Another stepped into the pool before the lame man and was healed. This showed that the sinners among the Jews went before them into the kingdom of God:

(Mat 21:31 KJV) Whether of them twain did the will of his father? They say unto him, The first. Jesus saith unto them, Verily I say unto you, That the publicans and the harlots go into the kingdom of God before you.

They believed John the Baptist's testimony of the truth...they repented and the way was prepared for the Lord. The religious leaders heard but did not believe and were not healed of their condition....they also kept others from believing. It was the sinful and "unlearned" that received the message into their hearts...those that did not adhere to the religous institution of the day....they were considered outcasts and yet were most receptive to the good news of the kingdom.

The lame man had the sickness for 38 years....this is a reference to the time the children of Israel wandered in the desert in "Kadeshbarnea" until coming over the brook "Zered" after they had unbelief in the Lord that the promised land could be taken:

(Deu 2:14 KJV) And the space in which we came from Kadeshbarnea, until we were come over the brook Zered, was thirty and eight years; until all the generation of the men of war were wasted out from among the host, as the LORD sware unto them.

"Kadesh-barnea" means "the holy place of the desert of wandering" or "desert of a fugitive"....a place where they stayed most of the 38 years until they crossed "Zered" which means " to be exuberant in growth." Now spiritually speaking, the Jews have been in the desert....withered.....only to be healed by Jesus....at "Zered".....where spiritual growth occurs in the life of God. The natural branches will no longer be withered but will be grafted in again into the tree and will be green and produce fruit.

It was for unbelief that they did not enter into the promised land.... and into the kingdom of God. Even after the signs shown in the desert....even after the signs (miracles) that Jesus showed them:

(Num 14:11 KJV) And the LORD said unto Moses, How long will this people provoke me? and how long will it be ere they believe me, for all the signs which I have showed among them?

Jesus asked them to at least believe the signs or miracles:

(John 10:38 KJV) But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him.

The leaders had unbelief and so did not enter the kingdom of God....they threw away the key so that others also would not enter.

(Luke 11:52 KJV) Woe unto you, lawyers! for ye have taken away the key of knowledge: ye entered not in yourselves, and them that were entering in ye hindered.

But those who listened to John the Baptist and Jesus did enter into life. Just as Caleb and Joshua did because they believed in God who was capable of giving them the promised land.

(Num 13:30 KJV) And Caleb stilled the people before Moses, and said, Let us go up at once, and possess it; for we are well able to overcome it.
31 But the men that went up with him said, We be not able to go up against the people; for they are stronger than we.

Caleb is a type for those who listened to John the Baptist. Joshua a type for Christ. Caleb was the son of "Jephunneh" which means "he will be prepared" ... a strong clue to being a type for John the Baptist preparing the way. "Caleb" means "forcible, to attack, dog"....and it was the "dogs" that accepted the message...the publicans, harlots, sinners. They immediately accepted John the Baptist's message.....just as Caleb wanted to go up at once and possess the land....they took hold of the kingdom by "force:"

(Mat 11:12 KJV) And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force.

Caleb had another spirit with him.....John the Baptisit had the spirit and power of Elijah.

(Num 14:24 KJV) But my servant Caleb, because he had another spirit with him, and hath followed me fully, him will I bring into the land whereinto he went; and his seed shall possess it.

(Luke 1:17 KJV) And he shall go before him in the spirit and power of Elias, to turn the hearts of the fathers to the children, and the disobedient to the wisdom of the just; to make ready a people prepared for the Lord.

Richard Amiel McGough
12-17-2008, 08:28 PM
It is very nice, shawn! This interpretation of the five porches signifying the five books of the Torah (Pentateuch) in John 5 goes back to the fifth century, when Augustine explained it more than once ([1] (http://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/npnf107.iii.xviii.html),[2] (http://www.clerus.org/bibliaclerusonline/en/b12.htm)). For example:
I am speaking briefly. That water was the Jewish people; the five porches were the Law. For Moses wrote five books. Therefore was the water enclosed by five porches as that people was held in by the Law.
This seems to be reinforced by the fact that at the end of this chapter Christ specifically mentions "his writings" (Moses'), as you quoted.

OTOH, he interprets the Angel as Christ, not John the Baptist. BTW, I should mention that the underlying Greek words for "season" in John 5 that you mention are distinct, so it doesn't seem to be a literary connection between the two passages.


It is very interesting to note that the canonical Johaninne corpus comprises five books (1, 2, 3 John, the Fourth Gospel and Revelation) and they seem to be a counterpart of the book structure of the Torah. This reminds of John's Prologue:
Joh 1:17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.
One one side, the Law (as emphasized by Moses); on the other, grace and truth (as emphasized by John). It is also very interesting that Christian Tradition relates the Number Five with Grace. And the first occurence of the word "Life" in the Bible is in the Fifth Day of Creation.

And here's a Bible Wheel article about John 5 (http://www.biblewheel.com/InnerWheels/John/John05.asp).

Victor
Those are excellent insights Victor, thanks! :thumb:

I am particularly pleased with the ancient witnesses you found. That gives these associations some "weight." The link between water and Torah is also given in Scripture itself "The law (Torah) of the wise is a fountain of life, to depart from the snares of death." (Proverbs 13:14). And this is echoed in Ephesians on Spoke 5 "with the washing of the water of the word" (Eph 5:26).

Note also that the 5 Johanine books span the last 5 Spokes of the Wheel from Spoke 18-20 (1,2,3 John), Spoke 21 (Gospel of John), and Spoke 22 (Revelation).

I feel there is another nugget here that will emerge if we dig a little deeper.

Richard

Richard Amiel McGough
12-17-2008, 08:32 PM
Thanks for considering!

Part II. And continuing with the healing of the lame man...

5 And a certain man was there, which had an infirmity thirty and eight years.
6 When Jesus saw him lie, and knew that he had been now a long time in that case, he saith unto him, Wilt thou be made whole?
7 The impotent man answered him, Sir, I have no man, when the water is troubled, to put me into the pool: but while I am coming, another steppeth down before me.

Another stepped into the pool before the lame man and was healed. This showed that the sinners among the Jews went before them into the kingdom of God:

(Mat 21:31 KJV) Whether of them twain did the will of his father? They say unto him, The first. Jesus saith unto them, Verily I say unto you, That the publicans and the harlots go into the kingdom of God before you.

They believed John the Baptist's testimony of the truth...they repented and the way was prepared for the Lord. The religious leaders heard but did not believe and were not healed of their condition....they also kept others from believing. It was the sinful and "unlearned" that received the message into their hearts...those that did not adhere to the religous institution of the day....they were considered outcasts and yet were most receptive to the good news of the kingdom.

The lame man had the sickness for 38 years....this is a reference to the time the children of Israel wandered in the desert in "Kadeshbarnea" until coming over the brook "Zered" after they had unbelief in the Lord that the promised land could be taken:

(Deu 2:14 KJV) And the space in which we came from Kadeshbarnea, until we were come over the brook Zered, was thirty and eight years; until all the generation of the men of war were wasted out from among the host, as the LORD sware unto them.

"Kadesh-barnea" means "the holy place of the desert of wandering" or "desert of a fugitive"....a place where they stayed most of the 38 years until they crossed "Zered" which means " to be exuberant in growth." Now spiritually speaking, the Jews have been in the desert....withered.....only to be healed by Jesus....at "Zered".....where spiritual growth occurs in the life of God. The natural branches will no longer be withered but will be grafted in again into the tree and will be green and produce fruit.

It was for unbelief that they did not enter into the promised land.... and into the kingdom of God. Even after the signs shown in the desert....even after the signs (miracles) that Jesus showed them:

(Num 14:11 KJV) And the LORD said unto Moses, How long will this people provoke me? and how long will it be ere they believe me, for all the signs which I have showed among them?

Jesus asked them to at least believe the signs or miracles:

(John 10:38 KJV) But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him.

The leaders had unbelief and so did not enter the kingdom of God....they threw away the key so that others also would not enter.

(Luke 11:52 KJV) Woe unto you, lawyers! for ye have taken away the key of knowledge: ye entered not in yourselves, and them that were entering in ye hindered.

But those who listened to John the Baptist and Jesus did enter into life. Just as Caleb and Joshua did because they believed in God who was capable of giving them the promised land.

(Num 13:30 KJV) And Caleb stilled the people before Moses, and said, Let us go up at once, and possess it; for we are well able to overcome it.
31 But the men that went up with him said, We be not able to go up against the people; for they are stronger than we.

Caleb is a type for those who listened to John the Baptist. Joshua a type for Christ. Caleb was the son of "Jephunneh" which means "he will be prepared" ... a strong clue to being a type for John the Baptist preparing the way. "Caleb" means "forcible, to attack, dog"....and it was the "dogs" that accepted the message...the publicans, harlots, sinners. They immediately accepted John the Baptist's message.....just as Caleb wanted to go up at once and possess the land....they took hold of the kingdom by "force:"

(Mat 11:12 KJV) And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force.

Caleb had another spirit with him.....John the Baptisit had the spirit and power of Elijah.

(Num 14:24 KJV) But my servant Caleb, because he had another spirit with him, and hath followed me fully, him will I bring into the land whereinto he went; and his seed shall possess it.

(Luke 1:17 KJV) And he shall go before him in the spirit and power of Elias, to turn the hearts of the fathers to the children, and the disobedient to the wisdom of the just; to make ready a people prepared for the Lord.
Hi Shawn,

I think you are correct about the link between the 38 years infirmity and the 38 years wandering recored in Numbers. Note also that both John and Numbers are fourth in their sequence: Numbers is the fourth book of the Torah, and John is the Fourth Gospel. The other correlations you mention also seem pretty interesting. Wish I had more time to explore them right now!

Richard

Victor
12-18-2008, 07:17 AM
I am particularly pleased with the ancient witnesses you found. That gives these associations some "weight." The link between water and Torah is also given in Scripture itself "The law (Torah) of the wise is a fountain of life, to depart from the snares of death." (Proverbs 13:14). And this is echoed in Ephesians on Spoke 5 "with the washing of the water of the word" (Eph 5:26).

Interesting. There seems to be a relationship between Five, Waters, the Pentateuch and John 5 that also seems to link to this verse from the Fifth Chapter of the Fifth Epistle. But the link is not altogether clear yet. What we have makes much sense.




Note also that the 5 Johanine books span the last 5 Spokes of the Wheel from Spoke 18-20 (1,2,3 John), Spoke 21 (Gospel of John), and Spoke 22 (Revelation).
Just as the five books of the Torah span the first five Spokes of the Wheel!

The five Spokes where the Torah resides are therefore bilaterally symmetric with the five Spokes where the Johanine books reside! I discussed this fact and its link to John 1:17 elsewhere (http://www.biblewheel.com/forum/showpost.php?p=7053&postcount=30):

The law was given by Moses, and the law is found in the first five Spokes of the Bible Wheel (the five books of the Torah). John contrasts law and grace, and, in the same fashion, his name appears in the last five Spokes of the Wheel (1 John, 2 John, 3 John, John and Revelation). Law and Grace. It is beautiful to see on the Bible Wheel this symmetry between complementary concepts. They are bilaterally symmetric.

This is also strengthened by the fact that the Number Five has been historically linked to both the concepts of Law (via the number of books in the Pentateuch) and Grace (via Christian tradition). What’s more, they are found on John 1:17, the number 117 being itself a pentagonal (http://www.biblewheel.com/GR/GR_Figurate.asp#pent) number and having a 'divider of waters' role in the structure of the Bible (cf. Psalm 117 (http://www.biblewheel.com/Collaboration/darroch2002_07_03.asp)), just like the line of bilateral symmetry divides the 'Law' and 'Grace' portions of the Wheel.


I feel there is another nugget here that will emerge if we dig a little deeper.

Richard
I feel that to 'cause it seems like John here maybe be criptically referring to the structure of a significant portion of the Bible. So it would be one of those portions of Scripture that mention Scripture itself! This often signals that there's "something more" going in the passage. We know that number usage in John is not incidental and that the number five itself was used in the following chapter in connection with bread (the five loaves that were multiplied, that point to the Body of Christ). So we have a very strong case here.

And we know that pentagonal numbers are the ordering feature of the Bible book structure (as you point out in 12 Baskets Remaining (http://www.biblewheel.com/Wheel/Spokes/Lamed.asp)).

Victor

Victor
12-18-2008, 07:35 AM
Hi Shawn,

I think you are correct about the link between the 38 years infirmity and the 38 years wandering recored in Numbers. Note also that both John and Numbers are fourth in their sequence: Numbers is the fourth book of the Torah, and John is the Fourth Gospel. The other correlations you mention also seem pretty interesting. Wish I had more time to explore them right now!

Richard

The 38 years took place in Numbers but were recorded as such in Deuteronomy. Recognizing the link between it and John 5, we find a interweaving of both the event and its recording within the structure of John. John parallels Numbers in that it is the fourth book of the NT as Numbers is the fourth of the OT. But since the story of the man infirm for 38 years is found in Chapter 5, it also links to Book 5, where Moses mentions the 38 years of wanderings. They form a KeyLink:

Deu 2:14 And the space in which we came from Kadeshbarnea, until we were come over the brook Zered, was thirty and eight years; until all the generation of the men of war were wasted out from among the host, as the LORD sware unto them.

Joh 5:5 And a certain man was there, which had an infirmity thirty and eight years.
The phrase "thirty and eight years" is found only in Book 5 and John 5.

Bob May
12-18-2008, 05:30 PM
Hi Shawn and all,

I haven't even read all of the posts yet but I see Shawn is on to somthing here. I had to put in that 5 is Grace as Victor pointed out.
The blind man is as Shawn show equated with the Jews. 38 years blind to the Truth that Moses 5 books spoke of Jesus who brought Grace and Truth.

And hidden within this Law, to them that are blind, Is God's message of Grace rather than the condemnation of the Law.

Good find Shawn!
I will read the rest of the posts and I will read the story of the blind man differently from now on.

Bob

Bob May
12-18-2008, 06:04 PM
Hi again Shawn and everyone,


(Num 13:30 KJV) And Caleb stilled the people before Moses, and said, Let us go up at once, and possess it; for we are well able to overcome it.
31 But the men that went up with him said, We be not able to go up against the people; for they are stronger than we.

Caleb is a type for those who listened to John the Baptist. Joshua a type for Christ. Caleb was the son of "Jephunneh" which means "he will be prepared" ... a strong clue to being a type for John the Baptist preparing the way. "Caleb" means "forcible, to attack, dog"....and it was the "dogs" that accepted the message...the publicans, harlots, sinners. They immediately accepted John the Baptist's message.....just as Caleb wanted to go up at once and possess the land....they took hold of the kingdom by "force:"

I see another parallel to Caleb/dog which adds weight to the idea of the Jews excluding themselves while gentiles accepting Jesus' words.

Mat 15:22 "And, behold, a woman of Canaancame out of the same coasts, and cried unto him, saying, Have mercy on me, O Lord, thou son of David; my daughter is grievously vexed with a devil.
23 But he answered her not a word. And his disciples came and besought him, saying, Send her away; for she crieth after us.
24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
25 Then came she and worshipped him, saying, Lord, help me.
26 But he answered and said, It is not meet to take the children's bread, and cast it to dogs.
27 And she said, Truth, Lord: yet the dogs eat of the crumbs which fall from the master's table.
28 Then Jesus answered and said unto her, O woman, great is thy faith: be it unto thee even as thou wilt. And her daughter was made whole from that very hour.

The taking by force I don't see the same principle applying. I believe the taking by force refers to the Law in that it i the idea of accomplishing by our own efforts.
Also I see it as the reason that Moses did not make it to the promised land but was only able to see it from afar. He smote the rock when he should have spoken to it. He was doing things the old way he was used to. Not willing to or unable to understand the change of mind (repentance) required of the new land of Promise.
Caleb, on the other hand was bold and had faith just as the Canaanite woman. But their faith was not in themselves.

(Mat 11:12 KJV) And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force.

Lots of good parallels here.

Bob

shawn
12-23-2008, 04:59 AM
Thanks guys for considering another view point...and thanks for showing the extra links between the two....things I had never considered before.

Part iii:

The leaders of the people were sent to search or spy out the land Canaan. 'Canaan' means 'to humble or humiliate.'

(Num 13:17 KJV) And Moses sent them to spy out the land of Canaan, and said unto them, Get you up this way southward, and go up into the mountain:

The Jewish leaders of the day also went out to 'spy' on Jesus who was humbled.

(Phil 2:8 KJV) And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.

Moses told the spies to 'go up into the mountain'…..Christ is from above:

(John 8:23 KJV) And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world.

John the Baptist's message to them was to bring forth fruit deserving of repentance:

(Mat 3:7 KJV) But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?
8 Bring forth therefore fruits meet for repentance:

Just as the spies were told to bring of the fruit of the land....for it was the time of the "firstripe grapes:"

(Num 13:20 KJV) And what the land is, whether it be fat or lean, whether there be wood therein, or not. And be ye of good courage, and bring of the fruit of the land. Now the time was the time of the firstripe grapes.

Jesus is the "firstripe grapes"...for in due time Christ died for the ungodly. In repentance we bring forth fruits.

The spies sent brought forth fruits: a cluster of grapes....representing the forgiveness and life that is in Christ, pomegranates....which the Hebrew word means "the tree (from its upright growth), to exalt"....in other words, to make straight paths...to be upright, and figs....representing understanding of the Scriptures.

(Num 13:23 KJV) And they came unto the brook of Eshcol, and cut down from thence a branch with one cluster of grapes, and they bare it between two upon a staff; and they brought of the pomegranates, and of the figs.
24 The place was called the brook Eshcol, because of the cluster of grapes which the children of Israel cut down from thence.

Although the spies admitted the land flowed with milk and honey, they still had unbelief. So too the religious leaders also did not believe...they rejected the counsel of God....just as they did in the desert.

(Luke 7:29 KJV) And all the people that heard him, and the publicans, justified God, being baptized with the baptism of John.
30 But the Pharisees and lawyers rejected the counsel of God against themselves, being not baptized of him.

Instead, they slandered Jesus with an unbelieving heart....just as they brought slander upon the land while in the desert:

(Num 14:36 KJV) And the men, which Moses sent to search the land, who returned, and made all the congregation to murmur against him, by bringing up a slander upon the land,

Jesus tells them that they would seek him but will die in their sins...without entering into the promise:

(John 8:21 KJV) Then said Jesus again unto them, I go my way, and ye shall seek me, and shall die in your sins: whither I go, ye cannot come.

The children of Israel were also told that they would bear their sins in the desert…that they would die in the desert without entering the promised land:

(Num 14:34 KJV) After the number of the days in which ye searched the land, even forty days, each day for a year, shall ye bear your iniquities, even forty years, and ye shall know my breach of promise.

As Jesus said….that they would seek him… the Jews have sought their Messiah in this time of exile….they have not entered into the promises. They have known what it is to be alienated from God….to know His 'breach of promise.' The children of Israel also had a change of heart when they heard Moses’ sayings…..and decided to go up into the top of the mountain for themselves.

(Num 14:40 KJV) And they rose up early in the morning, and gat them up into the top of the mountain, saying, Lo, we be here, and will go up unto the place which the LORD hath promised: for we have sinned.

But God was not with them…as Moses stated:

(Num 14:42 KJV) Go not up, for the LORD is not among you; that ye be not smitten before your enemies.

But the children of Israel did not listen to Moses…just as the Jewish leaders refused to hear Moses in Jesus’ day:

(John 5:45 KJV) Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father: there is one that accuseth you, even Moses, in whom ye trust.

But the Jews will be healed…just as the lame man….and will again walk in the ways of the Lord:

(John 5:8 KJV) Jesus saith unto him, Rise, take up thy bed, and walk.

(Deu 8:6 KJV) Therefore thou shalt keep the commandments of the LORD thy God, to walk in his ways, and to fear him.

Thanks for reading,

Shawn