Two (2) Runners

[duxrow]

Two (2) Runners

:animated_runner: They both ran, but the volunteer who got to David first didn't have the full message--he only knew 'in part'. Even though Ahimaaz (let's call him "Hymie") got off to a late start, he ran 'in the plain' and overtook and passed the other runner, Cushi. 2Sam18:22

Cushi had been designated to run and tell David the good news about the victory and the bad news about the death of Absalom. Maybe he was just slower than Hymie (Is this a play-on-words?) Since Hymie ran 'in the plain', did Cushi run a fanciful or convoluted or hidden course?

:animated_runner: David had seen the two runners approaching with 'tidings', 2Sam18:26, and evidentally recognized Hymie, son of Zadok the priest, but not the designated Cushi with the message about 'the death of the son'. (The oak tree had snagged Absalom by his hair, and then Joab had him killed.) The beloved son of King David was dead!

"Let us run with patience the race that is set before us; Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith..." Heb12:1. Thoughts?

[duxrow]

The athiest bunch won't like this, but...
Maybe an allegory concerning the grief of David at death of Absalom, comparing to Our Father's grief at those who choose to go to Hell? :nono:

[Richard Amiel McGough]

The athiest bunch won't like this, but...
Maybe an allegory concerning the grief of David at death of Absalom, comparing to Our Father's grief at those who choose to go to Hell? :nono:

Absalom means "Father's Peace" or "Father of Peace". It's interesting that Absalom took his father's peace away, and made him flee his own kingdom.

As for metaphors, more than a few folks have liked the way Absalom died - his hair got caught in a branch and he died hanging from a tree in imitation of Christ. But then again, if we let ourselves go wild with metaphors we could well end up hanging from a metaphoric tree by our hair-brained metaphors (if we don't actually have any regard fro truth).

Oh, and it seems very strange that God would weep over the universe he chose to create. No body forced him to make a hell to throw in folks who don't like his "representatives" down here on planet earth.

[David M]

Absalom means "Father's Peace" or "Father of Peace". It's interesting that Absalom took his father's peace away, and made him flee his own kingdom.
This is a fulfilment in part of the trouble that would come to David's household because of his sin with Bath Sheba. (2 Sam 12:10) Now therefore the sword shall never depart from thine house; because thou hast despised me, and hast taken the wife of Uriah the Hittite to be thy wife.



As for metaphors, more than a few folks have liked the way Absalom died - his hair got caught in a branch and he died hanging from a tree in imitation of Christ. But then again, if we let ourselves go wild with metaphors we could well end up hanging from a metaphoric tree by our hair-brained metaphors (if we don't actually have any regard fro truth). Absolom's hair was part of his vanity which was his appearance. (2 Sam 14:25) But in all Israel there was none to be so much praised as Absalom for his beauty: There was no beauty associated with Jesus that he could be vain about (Isaiah 53:2) and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him.



Oh, and it seems very strange that God would weep over the universe he chose to create. No body forced him to make a hell to throw in folks who don't like his "representatives" down here on planet earth. By what you say, you are perpetuating a myth. It is easy to paint a picture which is incorrect if you read into the superstitions that are mentioned in the Bible. Maybe God is weeping over you for rejecting him.


David

[Richard Amiel McGough]

Maybe God is weeping over you for rejecting him.

David

We should discuss that sometime David. If God is interested in truth, then I have good reason to think he is infinitely more delighted with me than you or any one who holds to the Bible as "God's Word". Ironic, no?

And for the record, there is no "him" for me to reject. I am rejecting the assertion made by fallible humans like you that the God of the Bible is the true God. Yahweh is no more grieved by that then Allah is grieved by my rejection of Islam since there is no reason to believe that either actually exist.

[David M]

We should discuss that sometime David. If God is interested in truth, then I have good reason to think he is infinitely more delighted with me than you or any one who holds to the Bible as "God's Word". Ironic, no?

And for the record, there is no "him" for me to reject. I am rejecting the assertion made by fallible humans like you that the God of the Bible is the true God. Yahweh is no more grieved by that then Allah is grieved by my rejection of Islam since there is no reason to believe that either actually exist.

Hello Richard

I do not know what there is to discuss, but if you think there is something in this, then I have to let you start if off sometime.

Since you agree that there is a possibility of a super intelligence which we can call god or God or a name of your choosing, why will you not say anything about what you think this super intelligence can do? We could all list our own questions about this super intelligence we want answered and it would be up to others to give an answer and thereby give their opinion. The capability of this super intelligence must range somewhere between being able to do nothing and being able to do anything we imagine can be done.

If you think this is a possibility, what is the probability factor for this being true? What are the factors for determining the probability factor?

All the best
David