Adam's I.Q. ?

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Adam's I.Q. ?

How intelligent was Adam? Scripture says he named all the animals even before Eve was ever created. He even knew enough to converse with God, so he might have asked what dying meant, when God told him about surely dying. Was it anything like roller skating?

Next question: Where did Eve get her understanding of the things she told the serpent? Is it possible that Adam led her astray? Isn't it a Bible principle for God to tell just one person, and for that person (or maybe that 'body') to pass it on? Hmmm?

[Rose]

Adam's I.Q. ?

How intelligent was Adam? Scripture says he named all the animals even before Eve was ever created. He even knew enough to converse with God, so he might have asked what dying meant, when God told him about surely dying. Was it anything like roller skating?

Next question: Where did Eve get her understanding of the things she told the serpent? Is it possible that Adam led her astray? Isn't it a Bible principle for God to tell just one person, and for that person (or maybe that 'body') to pass it on? Hmmm?

Hello Duxrox :yo:

It is abundantly clear from reading the Garden Story that authors intended to convey the message that Adam and Eve had knowledge of good and evil before they ate of the tree. The story is intended to inform the reader of the origins of sin, stating that because of Adam and Eve's disobedience humankind was cursed. The narrative tells us that when Adam and Eve ate from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil their eyes were opened to the concepts of good and evil making them as gods. Of course most of the blame was piled upon Eve (obviously male authors) and women have suffered the most on account of it, but aside from the misogynistic slant of the Garden story the main theme of the “Knowledge of Good & Evil” is skewed. The idea presented in the story is that Adam and Eve were ignorant of good and evil, thus they were forbidden by god from eating of the tree of knowledge less they find out, but upon closer inspection it is evident that the knowledge of good is already understood by the couple. Not only does Adam know that the trees in the garden are good for food, but he also is told that it is NOT good for him to be alone, this gives the reader the tell tale signs of the story’s human origins.


Gen.2:9 And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.

Gen.2:16-18 And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die. And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.

Gen.3:5-6 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil. And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.




Before Eve eats of the forbidden fruit she is not only aware of the goodness of the fruit for food, but also visually good and good to make one wise. It seems the authors point in this story is to convey the message that god wanted to keep Adam and Eve in a naïve state of ignorance, forgetting the fact that they already had to have some knowledge of good and evil in order to know what was good and what was NOT good.

All in all it is very evident that the story of Adam and Eve was concocted in the minds of men.



Take care,
Rose

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:fencing: All that says to me, Rose, is that you're very good at roller-skating. :p

[Rose]

:fencing: All that says to me, Rose, is that you're very good at roller-skating. :p

Actually I'm pretty mediocre when it comes to roller-skating, so I'm afraid you strike out there. :p You asked a question and I gave you an answer ... and all you have to say is that I'm a good roller-skater? What's up with that?

[David M]

Adam's I.Q. ?

How intelligent was Adam? Scripture says he named all the animals even before Eve was ever created. He even knew enough to converse with God, so he might have asked what dying meant, when God told him about surely dying. Was it anything like roller skating?

Next question: Where did Eve get her understanding of the things she told the serpent? Is it possible that Adam led her astray? Isn't it a Bible principle for God to tell just one person, and for that person (or maybe that 'body') to pass it on? Hmmm?

Hello Dux

This is an interesting question? How would the IQ of Adam be measured? It would have to be based on a set of questions and things like the ability to solve problems.

The IQ of Adam cannot be compared to the IQ of someone living in the 21st century, unless you can give them the same test based on the things they are supposed to have learned by a particular age. A series of tests could be constructed to show a persons ability to learn new things, so what subjects can you propose to test Adam's ability to learn different categories of subjects like the arts or science?

Adam might have been given the basics of language and mathematics, but Adam would not have had anyone else to learn from except Eve and she was in the same position as Adam, although she had not been given a creative task like making up names to give the animals.

What IQ do you think Eve had? Would the IQ of Eve have been the same as Adam at their creation.

I do not know enough about standard IQ tests to know what the range of questions are, but could there be a measure for how easily one can be deceived? There is nothing to suggest that Eve had a lesser or higher IQ than Adam and as we know, women today can easily have an higher IQ than men.

All the best
David


PS. I like your reply to Rose especially as you noticed that Rose has taken the opportunity to promote her idea that God does not exist and the Bible was written by uninspired men, who Rose could say had very little IQ, given the fact that they were (quote) "primitive bronze age warriors".

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Actually I'm pretty mediocre when it comes to roller-skating, so I'm afraid you strike out there. :p You asked a question and I gave you an answer ... and all you have to say is that I'm a good roller-skater? What's up with that?
Sorry 'Mediocre' Rose, mybad.. Was thinking you might have read my first question, instead of firing from the hip. I should have known better. (:bricks: )

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Adam may have been as sharp as Adam#2 -- you think?
The Lord brought a donkey to Adam, explaining how it carried heavy loads of other peoples goods over rugged terrain, for long distances.
And Adam called it an Ass. Gen2:19 :D