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Greatest I am
07-11-2013, 07:03 AM
Can God love or have a moral sense?

Scriptures tell us that God is the bench mark for morality and love. I think it a foolish saying but many say that God is love. They also say that faith without works and deeds is dead. St James. In that description I include love. Love, without works, deeds and displays of some kind, is dead.

Morality is something that creatures will only develop if living in groups. The same could be said of love. There is no need for morality, good ethics or love if one is alone the way God was for untold millennia before creating anything.

He therefore had no need of morality or love and could not have had them or have any need or desire for them. An Omni-God has no wants or needs.

Morality in that sense is like love and faith. All of these need works and deeds or some form of display, ---- or as scriptures say, ---- they are dead.

God is not doing works and deeds and not showing his so called love of mankind in any knowable way and it would thus be incorrect to say that God is our moral bench mark or that God loves us or anyone else at all.

Perhaps this is why Christians have to develop a double set of moral standards to exonerate the immoral actions that the Christian God does. Christians praise and adore God for doing things that they condemn in man. Christians give a free pass for evil to their God. Somewhat in the same way that God gives Satan a free pass, and in fact, God helps Satan do evil by letting him roam free and even giving Satan the power to deceive us all. Quite the judge that. If he was human, good people would get rid of such, yet God is praised for such evil by his followers.

God does not seem to do works, deeds or other forms of display.

Can God have a moral sense and can he love without ever having to show it?

Are God’s morals and love dead?

Regards
DL

David M
07-12-2013, 01:48 AM
Can God love or have a moral sense?

Scriptures tell us that God is the bench mark for morality and love. It is best to give the verse reference if not the whole quote to support what you say. I can then comment on the quote in support of your argument.


I think it a foolish saying but many say that God is love. They also say that faith without works and deeds is dead. St James. In that description I include love. Love, without works, deeds and displays of some kind, is dead. It is foolish to think that God is only Love and nothing else. We have to take into account all of God's attributes; hence the goodness and severity of God.



Morality is something that creatures will only develop if living in groups. The same could be said of love. There is no need for morality, good ethics or love if one is alone the way God was for untold millennia before creating anything. You have a point if we remain single and isolated, but if we all did that, there would be no human race, since no-one would get together and give rise to the next generation.



He therefore had no need of morality or love and could not have had them or have any need or desire for them. An Omni-God has no wants or needs. We have no idea how long man was in the mind of God before the actual creation took place. At the time God created man and woman and the conditions on earth for man to have dominion and life, Jesus was in the mind of God. In a sense, God loved Jesus before Jesus was born. Consider John 3:16 said to be the greatest promise; For God so loved the world...


Morality in that sense is like love and faith. All of these need works and deeds or some form of display, ---- or as scriptures say, ---- they are dead.

God is not doing works and deeds and not showing his so called love of mankind in any knowable way and it would thus be incorrect to say that God is our moral bench mark or that God loves us or anyone else at all. That would show your lack of Bible knowledge. God delivered Israel from Egypt. Consider Hosea 11:1; When Israel was a child, then I loved him, and called my son out of Egypt.




Perhaps this is why Christians have to develop a double set of moral standards to exonerate the immoral actions that the Christian God does. Christians praise and adore God for doing things that they condemn in man. Christians give a free pass for evil to their God. Somewhat in the same way that God gives Satan a free pass, and in fact, God helps Satan do evil by letting him roam free and even giving Satan the power to deceive us all. Quite the judge that. If he was human, good people would get rid of such, yet God is praised for such evil by his followers. Once again, you have begun a tirade against God which in my mind is unjustified and show you do not take all of God's word into account. How is it you have agreed with me in another post concerning the devil and here you are spouting the false teaching of literal Satan you take to be a fallen Angel of God. You are not consistent and I doubt you have agreed with me at all.



God does not seem to do works, deeds or other forms of display. God is keeping his word and fulfilling prophecy even now and that is telling me God will keep his promise of giving eternal life to those who are faithful. That act of love can be extended to you, but not if you are going to reject God and his offer.


Can God have a moral sense and can he love without ever having to show it? God is what he is and can be no less. When we are told that God judges righteously and is judging by his own high standard, that is sufficient. Your problem is that you do not recognize that God has dealt justly in the past. It is on that basis that Jesus will judge righteously when he is back on the earth. There are also some criteria which must be met if acceptance into the kingdom is to be granted. Ultimately, it is by the grace of God we are saved and nothing we have done.



Are God’s morals and love dead? Simple answer is; No.

Regards
David

Greatest I am
07-12-2013, 08:04 AM
Thanks for hiding from a decent discussion behind your dogma and un-provable prophesy in an O T that the Jews know is myth.

http://www.raceandhistory.com/historicalviews/doubtingexodus.htm


Here is what most Jews think of the God whose evil you give a pass to.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dx7irFN2gdI

Regards
DL