The names of Benjamin and sons with the meanings

[gilgal]

I found this interesting. The names in the bible have proven to have something to do with it's context. Even though Benjamin doesn't have much of a story in the bible, the names of his sons show where his heart is, towards Joseph his elder brother.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin


Benjamin is treated as a young child in most of the Biblical narrative[17], but at one point is abruptly described as the father of ten sons[18]; textual scholars believe that this is caused by the genealogical passage, in which his children are named, being from a much later source than the Jahwist and Elohist narratives, which make up most of the Joseph narrative, and which consistently describe Benjamin as a child.[19]. The genealogical passage names each of the sons[20], which classical rabbinical tradition adds to with the argument that the sons were each named in honour of Joseph[21]:

Belah (meaning swallow), in reference to Joseph disappearing (being swallowed up)
Becher (meaning first born), in reference to Joseph being the first child of Rachel
Ashbel (meaning capture), in reference to Joseph having suffered captivity
Gera (meaning grain), in reference to Joseph living in a foreign land (Egypt)
Naaman (meaning grace), in reference to Joseph having graceful speech
Ehi (meaning my brother), in reference to Joseph being Benjamin's only full-brother (as opposed to half-brothers)
Rosh (meaning elder), in reference to Joseph being older than Benjamin
Muppim (meaning double mouth), in reference to Joseph passing on what he had been taught by Jacob
Huppim (meaning marriage canopies), in reference to Joseph being married in Egypt, while Benjamin was not there
Ard (meaning wanderer/fugitive), in reference to Joseph being like a rose

[Richard Amiel McGough]

I found this interesting. The names in the bible have proven to have something to do with it's context. Even though Benjamin doesn't have much of a story in the bible, the names of his sons show where his heart is, towards Joseph his elder brother.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin
That's an interesting tradition, but I doubt its really valid (in the sense of "intended by God"). It reminds me of the idea of the "Gospel in the Genealogy of Adam (http://www.khouse.org/articles/1996/44/)" popularized by Chuck Missler:

Adam (Man)
Seth (Appointed)
Enosh (Mortal)
Kenan (Sorrow)
Mahalalel (The Blessed God)
Jared (Shall come down)
Enoch (Teaching)
Methuselah (His death shall bring)
Lamech (The Despairing)
Noah (Rest, or comfort)

I think this one has more chance of having been "intended by God" because it is not based on "free association" like the Jewish traditional understanding of the meanings of the names of Joseph's brothers.

Richard

[gilgal]

I looked these up in the concordance and y pocket size name dictionary:

Becher - first-born; a youth, the second son of Benjamin (Gen. 46:21), who came down to Egypt with Jacob. It is probable that he married an Ephraimitish heiress, and that his descendants were consequently reckoned among the tribe of Ephraim (Num. 26:35; 1 Chr. 7:20, 21). They are not reckoned among the descendants of Benjamin (Num. 26:38).

Bela - a thing swallowed.
(1.) A city on the shore of the Dead Sea, not far from Sodom, called also Zoar. It was the only one of the five cities that was spared at Lot's intercession (Gen. 19:20,23). It is first mentioned in Gen. 14:2,8.


(2.) The eldest son of Benjamin (Num. 26:38; "Belah," Gen. 46:21).


(3.) The son of Beor, and a king of Edom (Gen. 36:32, 33; 1 Chr. 1:43).


(4.) A son of Azaz (1 Chr. 5:8).

Ashbel - reproof of God.

Gera - grain.
(1.) The son of Bela and grandson of Benjamin (1 Chr. 8:3, 5,7).


(2.) The father of Ehud the judge (Judg. 3:15).


(3.) The father of Shimei, who so grossly abused David (2 Sam. 16:5; 19:16, 18).


Naaman - pleasantness, a Syrian, the commander of the armies of Benhadad II. in the time of Joram, king of Israel. He was afflicted with leprosy; and when the little Hebrew slave-girl that waited on his wife told her of a prophet in Samaria who could cure her master, he obtained a letter from Benhadad and proceeded with it to Joram. The king of Israel suspected in this some evil design against him, and rent his clothes. Elisha the prophet hearing of this, sent for Naaman, and the strange interview which took place is recorded in 2 Kings 5. The narrative contains all that is known of the Syrian commander. He was cured of his leprosy by dipping himself seven times in the Jordan, according to the word of Elisha. His cure is alluded to by our Lord (Luke 4:27).


Ehi - brother.

Rosh - (Ezek. 38:2, 3; 39:1) is rendered "chief" in the Authorized Version. It is left untranslated as a proper name in the Revised Version. Some have supposed that the Russians are here meant, as one of the three Scythian tribes of whom Magog was the prince. They invaded the land of Judah in the days of Josiah. Herodotus, the Greek historian, says: "For twenty-eight years the Scythians ruled over Asia, and things were turned upside down by their violence and contempt." (See BETHSHEAN .)

Muppim - ?

Huppim - coverings

[Richard Amiel McGough]

I looked these up in the concordance and y pocket size name dictionary:

Becher - first-born; a youth, the second son of Benjamin (Gen. 46:21), who came down to Egypt with Jacob. It is probable that he married an Ephraimitish heiress, and that his descendants were consequently reckoned among the tribe of Ephraim (Num. 26:35; 1 Chr. 7:20, 21). They are not reckoned among the descendants of Benjamin (Num. 26:38).

Bela - a thing swallowed.
(1.) A city on the shore of the Dead Sea, not far from Sodom, called also Zoar. It was the only one of the five cities that was spared at Lot's intercession (Gen. 19:20,23). It is first mentioned in Gen. 14:2,8.


(2.) The eldest son of Benjamin (Num. 26:38; "Belah," Gen. 46:21).


(3.) The son of Beor, and a king of Edom (Gen. 36:32, 33; 1 Chr. 1:43).


(4.) A son of Azaz (1 Chr. 5:8).

Ashbel - reproof of God.

Gera - grain.
(1.) The son of Bela and grandson of Benjamin (1 Chr. 8:3, 5,7).


(2.) The father of Ehud the judge (Judg. 3:15).


(3.) The father of Shimei, who so grossly abused David (2 Sam. 16:5; 19:16, 18).


Naaman - pleasantness, a Syrian, the commander of the armies of Benhadad II. in the time of Joram, king of Israel. He was afflicted with leprosy; and when the little Hebrew slave-girl that waited on his wife told her of a prophet in Samaria who could cure her master, he obtained a letter from Benhadad and proceeded with it to Joram. The king of Israel suspected in this some evil design against him, and rent his clothes. Elisha the prophet hearing of this, sent for Naaman, and the strange interview which took place is recorded in 2 Kings 5. The narrative contains all that is known of the Syrian commander. He was cured of his leprosy by dipping himself seven times in the Jordan, according to the word of Elisha. His cure is alluded to by our Lord (Luke 4:27).


Ehi - brother.

Rosh - (Ezek. 38:2, 3; 39:1) is rendered "chief" in the Authorized Version. It is left untranslated as a proper name in the Revised Version. Some have supposed that the Russians are here meant, as one of the three Scythian tribes of whom Magog was the prince. They invaded the land of Judah in the days of Josiah. Herodotus, the Greek historian, says: "For twenty-eight years the Scythians ruled over Asia, and things were turned upside down by their violence and contempt." (See BETHSHEAN .)

Muppim - ?

Huppim - coverings
I didn't mean to suggest that the Jewish tradition was wrong about the meanings of the names. I could see they had them correct (for the most part). My point was that the association of those names with the life of Joseph seems arbitrary to me. It seems like a game of "free association" where I could toss out any Hebrew word and you could tell me how it connected to the life of Joseph.

If there really was a true connection between those names and the life of Joseph, I would expect the associated words to be found in the record. For example, Bela means "swallowed" but that word is not used in connection with his "disappearance." The connections seem arbitrary to me. That was my point.

Richard

[gilgal]

I didn't mean to suggest that the Jewish tradition was wrong about the meanings of the names. I could see they had them correct (for the most part). My point was that the association of those names with the life of Joseph seems arbitrary to me. It seems like a game of "free association" where I could toss out any Hebrew word and you could tell me how it connected to the life of Joseph.

If there really was a true connection between those names and the life of Joseph, I would expect the associated words to be found in the record. For example, Bela means "swallowed" but that word is not used in connection with his "disappearance." The connections seem arbitrary to me. That was my point.

Richard

I know what you mean. I realized that when you said it. But I posted anyways to see if there's any more input from others.

I was wondering if there's any connection of the name Gera which meant grain to the sacs of grains which Joseph gave to his brothers.

[gilgal]

But what was off concerning the Gospel in Genesis, Genesis 5?

Methuselah was his death shall bring.

That, for example was the same year that the flood came: 969 years after Methuselah's birth... when he died.

I wonder if there might be more on these names/prophecies when we look at the Biblewheel pattern.

I wonder if the name Sarah ( with the h ) which was introduced in Genesis 17, which means She has become princess, she has prevailed, and book 17 Esther?

[Richard Amiel McGough]

But what was off concerning the Gospel in Genesis, Genesis 5?

Methuselah was his death shall bring.

That, for example was the same year that the flood came: 969 years after Methuselah's birth... when he died.

I wonder if there might be more on these names/prophecies when we look at the Biblewheel pattern.

I wonder if the name Sarah ( with the h ) which was introduced in Genesis 17, which means She has become princess, she has prevailed, and book 17 Esther?
There definitely could be connections like that. It is interesting that the masculine root Sar = prince occurs a lot in Esther. And the emminence of Esther as Queen makes her a kind of "sarah." But I don't know how far this will go. Any other ideas?

Richard

[gilgal]

Well I don't know what intention is the word prevailed used in the meaning of the name of Sarah in my names dictionary. But it would seem that since Esther's queenship caused a reversal to the extermination of the Jews. So she prevailed right?

[gilgal]

I wonder where the names of Benjamin are explained.

[NumberX]

I wonder where the names of Benjamin are explained.

'My professor' wrote also that in the names of the sons of Benjamin the life of Joseph is explained.
Muppim in my translation book: Possible: snake. (This book is not written by 'my professor').

Somewhere I read about Rose and the Midianites to be eradicated, how bad she thougth about it, with the approval of God. Well Midian comes from Midjan and this name means battle, twist. Little woman of Midian.. I think this means a little twist about material things (woman-mater-material) and little man of Midian, I think this means a little twist about spiritual things, inner things. Something like this. Or: a person who just started to battle and twist, maybe this means a little one. Everybody has it in him/herself, the Midianite, and it is around him/herself in others too. Israel means combatant, warrior, of God. Change the world and start with yourself they say.

Sarah is the female form of Sar. First written as 300-200-10 and this means quarrelsome (twist-sick) and later as 300-200-5 and this means queen, princess, and like First Lady.

There are also female names for men, like Jonah (Pigeon), this is also unusual, who names his son Pigeon? Pigeon in a fish. This has to do with the fish flying in the water and the pigeon flying in the air. Different worlds are coming together. There ane more unusual names, like Rock.

Should there be a Bible with the translations of all the names instead of the names that would be very interesting to read. I have a book with all translations and made already many of those notes in my Bible because I like to read this way, it makes the Bible more a spiritual book. Sometimes I see translations of names who don't match with what I have learned, but I don't correct it.

[gilgal]

'My professor' wrote also that in the names of the sons of Benjamin the life of Joseph is explained.
Muppim in my translation book: Possible: snake. (This book is not written by 'my professor').

Somewhere I read about Rose and the Midianites to be eradicated, how bad she thougth about it, with the approval of God. Well Midian comes from Midjan and this name means battle, twist. Little woman of Midian.. I think this means a little twist about material things (woman-mater-material) and little man of Midian, I think this means a little twist about spiritual things, inner things. Something like this. Or: a person who just started to battle and twist, maybe this means a little one. Everybody has it in him/herself, the Midianite, and it is around him/herself in others too. Israel means combatant, warrior, of God. Change the world and start with yourself they say.

Sarah is the female form of Sar. First written as 300-200-10 and this means quarrelsome (twist-sick) and later as 300-200-5 and this means queen, princess, and like First Lady.

There are also female names for men, like Jonah (Pigeon), this is also unusual, who names his son Pigeon? Pigeon in a fish. This has to do with the fish flying in the water and the pigeon flying in the air. Different worlds are coming together. There ane more unusual names, like Rock.

Should there be a Bible with the translations of all the names instead of the names that would be very interesting to read. I have a book with all translations and made already many of those notes in my Bible because I like to read this way, it makes the Bible more a spiritual book. Sometimes I see translations of name who don't match with what I have learned, but I don't correct it.
If there is a hebrew/greek bible website where you can search in hebrew and greek it would be useful. SOme of the names have an explanation in the context.

[NumberX]

Once I found a website with translations from Hebrew and Greek names to Dutch, but many translations did not match with the book (meaning and concordance) I already had. So I asked on that internet site who did this big job? I never got any answer. In the book is info about the several researchers who worked two years on it. I think because I paid for the info I got the best. I don't think these writers and the publisher want a website where everyone can do a free search. There are also sometimes some slight differences between what I read in works of 'my professor' (also paid for) and what a translation in this book says. Like Levi. In the book: (my) loyalty, connected. 'My professor' wrote Levi is related to the concept of guiding.

[gilgal]

Once I found a website with translations from Hebrew and Greek names to Dutch, but many translations did not match with the book (meaning and concordance) I already had. So I asked on that internet site who did this big job? I never got any answer. In the book is info about the several researchers who worked two years on it. I think because I paid for the info I got the best. I don't think these writers and the publisher want a website where everyone can do a free search. There are also sometimes some slight differences between what I read in works of 'my professor' (also paid for) and what a translation in this book says. Like Levi. In the book: (my) loyalty, connected. 'My professor' wrote Levi is related to the concept of guiding.
Levi's one of the easier ones because the text interprets the name. Leah says her husband will be joined unto her. God takes Levi and joins the people unto him in Exodus.

[NumberX]

Levi's one of the easier ones because the text interprets the name. Leah says her husband will be joined unto her. God takes Levi and joins the people unto him in Exodus.

Yeah. The story about Pigeon in a fish is a more compex one. Once upon a time Pigeon wanted to go to Beauty but had to go to the big city (probably) Home and stays there after his third mission, or something like that the story is about.

[gilgal]

Yeah. The story about Pigeon in a fish is a more compex one. Once upon a time Pigeon wanted to go to Beauty but had to go to the big city (probably) Home and stays there after his third mission, or something like that the story is about.

you can associate jonah with noah's dove in genesis 8:8. noah was the10th from adam. and jonah is spoke 10.

[NumberX]

Oh! Yeah I thought already about Noah's dove's missions. Think it's a good idea that I am going pick the course 'The Biblebook Jonah (http://www.hebreeuwseacademie.nl/index.php?location=cursussen&PHPSESSID=69339f62c8ab5607afe56bc42bc05919)' from my bookshelf again. It's one of the most extraordinary writings I have ever read, 172 pages and full of gematria, I like that. I notice 'my professor' made a detailed link too, something quite different, do you want to know it?

Jona 1:1-3 in brief with translations of names:
Pigeon is the son of My Truth, Veracious and had to go to (probably) Home but he wanted to flee to Tarsis* and he was in He Shall be Beautiful.

Reading the Bible this way would be nice, but such a Bible does not exist. The Bible would be at least twice as thick :)

He Shall be Beautiful is a place in Judge with a port to the west to the sea, Pigeon wanted to sail away from Warrior of God. Pigeon is originally from Wine Press of Pit, Source (see 2 Kon. 14:25) and from there he descents to He Shall be Beautiful. ´My professor´ however calls it The winepress which is digged into the earth, so it is a place on earth that has been made ready to change grapes into wine. Grapes are the third fruit, the fruit of the third day.


* More then three translations possible I see in the book with names

[gilgal]

Oh! Yeah I thought already about Noah's dove's missions. Think it's a good idea that I am going pick the course 'The Biblebook Jonah (http://www.hebreeuwseacademie.nl/index.php?location=cursussen&PHPSESSID=69339f62c8ab5607afe56bc42bc05919)' from my bookshelf again. It's one of the most extraordinary writings I have ever read, 172 pages and full of gematria, I like that. I notice 'my professor' made a detailed link too, something quite different, do you want to know it?

Jona 1:1-3 in brief with translations of names:
Pigeon is the son of My Truth, Veracious and had to go to (probably) Home but he wanted to flee to Tarsis* and he was in He Shall be Beautiful.

Reading the Bible this way would be nice, but such a Bible does not exist. The Bible would be at least twice as thick :)

He Shall be Beautiful is a place in Judge with a port to the west to the sea, Pigeon wanted to sail away from Warrior of God. Pigeon is originally from Wine Press of Pit, Source (see 2 Kon. 14:25) and from there he descents to He Shall be Beautiful. ´My professor´ however calls it The winepress which is digged into the earth, so it is a place on earth that has been made ready to change grapes into wine. Grapes are the third fruit, the fruit of the third day.


* More then three translations possible I see in the book with names
Hmmm... It's good to study the meaning of the names in Jonah. But the concordances and dictionaries don't give accurate answers. What does Tarshish mean?

Psalm 55:6
And I said, Oh that I had wings like a dove! [for then] would I fly away, and be at rest.