Origin of Palestinians

[yeshua_seven]

I found a site which aroused my curiosity on this matter because it would be helpful in understanding some things. The site suggested that it is likely that Palestinians are descendents of the northern kingdom of Israel, while modern day Israel are descendents of the southern kingdom of Judah. If you are interesting in reading you can do so here: http://www.angelfire.com/journal/bibleissues/israel/israel_palestinian.htm

I'm not interested at the moment on his prophecy statements, but just on the question of who the Palestinians are. What he says does make sense to me, so what do you all think?

The Northern Kingdom of Israel intermarried with the nations around them and became to be known by the southern kingdom of Judah as Samaritans. Are many Palestinians today "Samaritans" so to speak? If this is true, then the land of Israel belongs* to both the modern day Jews and the modern day Palestinians. If this stuff is true, then the prophecies in the Bible about Israel and Judah may apply, and thus eventually, God willing, I will study it more.

*I use the term "belongs" loosely because the land belongs to God, not any groups of people.

[Richard Amiel McGough]

I found a site which aroused my curiosity on this matter because it would be helpful in understanding some things. The site suggested that it is likely that Palestinians are descendents of the northern kingdom of Israel, while modern day Israel are descendents of the southern kingdom of Judah. If you are interesting in reading you can do so here: http://www.angelfire.com/journal/bibleissues/israel/israel_palestinian.htm

I'm not interested at the moment on his prophecy statements, but just on the question of who the Palestinians are. What he says does make sense to me, so what do you all think?

The Northern Kingdom of Israel intermarried with the nations around them and became to be known by the southern kingdom of Judah as Samaritans. Are many Palestinians today "Samaritans" so to speak? If this is true, then the land of Israel belongs* to both the modern day Jews and the modern day Palestinians. If this stuff is true, then the prophecies in the Bible about Israel and Judah may apply, and thus eventually, God willing, I will study it more.

*I use the term "belongs" loosely because the land belongs to God, not any groups of people.
That sure would be ironic if true! But I don't think its true just because of language and cultural differences, and the fact that so many "Palestinians" come from surrounding Arab nations. But I would have to examine the article more to come to any firm conclusion.

What do you think? Do you believe that article?

Richard

[yeshua_seven]

I'm not really sure at the moment. The article made a lot of good points, but even the author didn't speak as if he or she knew for sure, but just giving his or her insight and that there is a good possibility that Palestians are descendents from the northern kingdom of Israel.

However, if it is true, the Palestians don't all come directly from the kingdom of Israel, for they intermarried with those around them and rebelled against God and adopted the culture of the wicked nations around them. If a Jew marries an Arab, and their children marry Arabs, and their children marry Arabs, eventually their Jewishness may be forgotten. Jews and Samaritans didn't get along well in Jesus' day, and as a result Samaritans probably didn't marry Jews so continued on marrying Arabs and other nationalities, and thus today the Palestinians which now speak mostly Arabic. I don't know though, just a possiblility.

Most likely the "10 Lost Tribes" as I have heard it reffered to...are probably mixed in with many different nationalities, so not just Palestinians, but others as well.

[Trumpet]

Hi all,

I read some interesting history on this subject by Dr Steven Jones. He gives archeological evidence of where the dispersion went, and when. It seems, if he is correct, that the "lost 10 tribes" are truly lost and intermingled throughout the world, but there are evidences of them living in lower Russia, Western Europe, and America. Here's the article:

http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.org/who_is_an_israelite.htm#Natural%20Israel:%20Lost%2 0and%20Found Go to chapter 4 section E.

God bless Don

[yeshua_seven]

Thanks for the link. God willing I will read it tomorrow.

[gilgal]

Take a look at this article from 1966:
The Jews That Aren’t

The Jews That Aren’t
By LEO HUMAN: Coplay News Service San Diego Union-28.8.1966
TEL AVIV
Nathan M. Pollock has a beef with
the Israeli government.
His elaborate plans to celebrate this
September the 1.000th anniversary of
the Jewish-Khozar alliance were sum-
marily rejected.
An elderly, meek-looking man who
migrated to Israel from Russia 43
years ago, Pollock ekes out a living
as a translator of scientific texts and
proofreader in a publishing firm.
But his great passion, hobby and
avocation is historic research.
He has devoted 40 of his 64 years to
trying to prove that six out of 10 Is-
raelis and nine out of 10 Jews in the
Western Hemisphere are not real Jews’
Jews, but descendants of fierce Kho-
zar tribes which roamed the steppes
of southern Russia many centuries ago.
For obvious reasons the Israeli
authorities are not at all eager to give
the official stamp of approval to Pol-
lock’s theories.
"For all we know, he may be 100
per cent right," said a senior gov-
ernment official. "In fact, he is not the
first one to discover the connection be-
tween Jews and Khozars. Many fa-
mous scholars. Jews and non-Jews,
stressed these links in their historical
research works.
"But who can tell today what per-
centage of Khozar blood flows in our
veins, if at all? And who can declare
with any degree of scientific accuracy
which Jews are Jews and which de-
scendants of this Tartar-Mongol race?
"As a matter of fact, our alleged
descent from the Khozars is the cen-
tral theme of Arab propaganda," he
added. "The Arabs claim most Euro-
pean Jews have no right to be in Israel
in the first place because they are not
descended from Biblical Hebrews, but
from Tartar-Mongol nomad tribes, in-
cluding the Khozars who were con-
verted to Judaism en masse 1,000
years ago."
Scientific opinion in Israel is divided
on the subject. No one argues the basic
premise: that a group of 12.000 Jews,
fleeing from persecution and wart in
the Holy Land, in the wake of Byzan-
tine and Moslem conquests, made the
long overland trek to Persia, crossed
the territory of today’s Turkestan in
Central Asia and found asylum in the
Khozar Kingdom, which occupied a
vast area between the Caspian Sea,
Volga River, Ural Mountains, Black
Sea and the Polish borderlands.
In the year 965 the Khozars were de-
feated for the first time in 500 years,
by Prince Sviatoslav of Kiev. King
Bulan III of Khozaria concluded that
Prince Sviatoslav emerged victorious
from the war because his troops and
mercenaries were Christians, while his
nomads were pagan worshipers. The
king and his nobles embraced Judaism
in 965, and in 966 a royal edict was
passed enforcing Judiasm as the only
legal religion in the Khozar Kingdom.
Tribesmen had to undergo circumci-
sion, learn Hebrew prayers and recog-
nize Jewish rabbis as their spiritual
leaders — on pain of death.
As other Jews who were persecuted
in the Middle East, medieval Europe
and Spain at that time, heard of the
new Jewish-Khozar kingdom, rumors
spread that the Messiah had arrived at
long last. There were several consecu-
tive migration waves to Khozaria, via
Persia, Greece and Poland.
Pollock believes the traditional Rus-
sian anti-Semitism probably stems
from that epoch when Hebrew-speak-
ing Khozar raiders attacked Russian
villages, killed the men folk, abductod
women, forcibly converted them to
Judaism and married them in full-
fledged religious ceremonies. This also
would explain why so many European
Jews are blond and blue-eyed, with a
slight Mongol slant to their eyes, as
well as the total absence of Semitic
features among many Israelis of Euro-
pean descent.
The flourishing Jewish-Khozar King-
dom was destroyed in 1230 by the Mon-
gol invasion of Ban Khan.
Following the Mongol invasion and
conquest, surviving members of Jew-
ish-Khozar tribes trekked west and
settled in Poland, Hungary, Bohemia,
Austria, Romania and the Ukraine.
How can one find out if he is a "Kho-
zar Jew" or a "Hebrew Jew?"
According to Pollock, whose parents
came from Poland, if your name is
Halperin, Alport, Halpern, Galpern,
etc., you are a 100 per cent Khozar.
"Alper" means "brave knight" in the
Khozar tongue, and the name was
granted by the king to the most dis-
tinguished warriors. Names like Kap-
lan, Caplon, Koppel, and the like are
positive proof of Khozar descent, ac-
cording to the scholar. "Kaplan"
means "fierce hawk" in the Khozar
language. Kogan, Kagan, Kaganovich
show aristocratic descent from Kagan-
Hagan, King Bulan’s chief minister.