The 6th Day 'Bread'

[duxrow]

Six 'Days' for Mankind

The Analogy. "Six days may work be done; but in the seventh is the sabbath of rest. Ex31:15,17. "...for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed." When we see a "for" or a "therefore", we consider the passage and what it's there for. In this case the Author is comparing the six days of God's creation, with the six days given to mankind.

Sabbaths. There's a pattern here which goes beyond the fifty two weeks of each year, and extends to the entire age of mankind as we know it. Not only was there a weekly sabbath, but also a yearly, plus special or "high sabbaths" (Jn19:31), and the Jubilee was every fifty years. Forty Jubilees adds up to 2,000 yrs., or two "days" as the Lord sees it. 40 x 50 = 2000

This is the 6TH DAY (double) BREAD you're reading.. Six 'days' from Adam, but the
"Third Day" from Jesus -- depending on where you begin your count... both are significant in Scripture. :thumb:

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[Richard Amiel McGough]

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[Richard Amiel McGough]

Six 'Days' for Mankind

The Analogy. "Six days may work be done; but in the seventh is the sabbath of rest. Ex31:15,17. "...for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed." When we see a "for" or a "therefore", we consider the passage and what it's there for. In this case the Author is comparing the six days of God's creation, with the six days given to mankind.

Sabbaths. There's a pattern here which goes beyond the fifty two weeks of each year, and extends to the entire age of mankind as we know it. Not only was there a weekly sabbath, but also a yearly, plus special or "high sabbaths" (Jn19:31), and the Jubilee was every fifty years. Forty Jubilees adds up to 2,000 yrs., or two "days" as the Lord sees it. 40 x 50 = 2000

This is the 6TH DAY (double) BREAD you're reading.. Six 'days' from Adam, but the
"Third Day" from Jesus -- depending on where you begin your count... both are significant in Scripture. :thumb:

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I can see why Christians waiting for Christ's return would find this significant, but this too shall pass as the centuries roll on with no return just like they have for the last 20 centuries.

It's the same thing as the founding of secular Israel in 1948, only on a larger scale. It seems significant because it's happening in the time we are living. Believers typically think that their own generation is the "final generation." The event of 1948 caused great excitement amongst the "end of the worlders." So they added a "generation" (40 years) and subtract 7 for the tribulation and boldly declared that Christ would return in 1981 = 148 + 40 - 7. That failed, so the scrapped the trib and said 1988. That failed, so they added a year and said 1989. That failed, and along came Harold Camping with his 1994 prediction. That failed, so everyone went nuts with Y2K. That failed ... do you see a pattern here?

With all the "pattern finding" that folks find so convincing, why have they not drawn any conclusions from the most consistent pattern of all? I'm talking about the 2000 year record of perfect error for date setters! That's far an away the most consistent "pattern" associated with the Bible.

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[duxrow]

I can see why Christians waiting for Christ's return would find this significant, but this too shall pass as the centuries roll on with no return just like they have for the last 20 centuries.
Yea, right... but Birthdays and New Year's eventually come to pass..

It's the same thing as the founding of secular Israel in 1948, only on a larger scale. It seems significant because it's happening in the time we are living. Believers typically think that their own generation is the "final generation." The event of 1948 caused great excitement amongst the "end of the worlders." So they added a "generation" (40 years) and subtract 7 for the tribulation and boldly declared that Christ would return in 1981 = 148 + 40 - 7. That failed, so the scrapped the trib and said 1988. That failed, so they added a year and said 1989. That failed, and along came Harold Camping with his 1994 prediction. That failed, so everyone went nuts with Y2K. That failed ... do you see a pattern here?
The pattern most recent is how next year will be the 66th (2014-1948) -- 'course the 70 years of carrying to Babylon might make 2018 a better pick (who do you like in the 3rd?) :lol:

With all the "pattern finding" that folks find so convincing, why have they not drawn any conclusions from the most consistent pattern of all? I'm talking about the 2000 year record of perfect error for date setters! That's far an away the most consistent "pattern" associated with the Bible.


Interesting, the way you rolled up the 66 Bible Books (Great Job!), and have found so many 'third' cases, yet deny the Holy Ghost authenticity... Why is that? Have you decided not to give up some secret sin? :winking0071:

[Richard Amiel McGough]

Hey ho duxrow, :yo:

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I can see why Christians waiting for Christ's return would find this significant, but this too shall pass as the centuries roll on with no return just like they have for the last 20 centuries.

Yea, right... but Birthdays and New Year's eventually come to pass..

Yes, they come to pass with absolutely perfect precision and predictability, which is the precise opposite of end times predictions which are always wrong.




It's the same thing as the founding of secular Israel in 1948, only on a larger scale. It seems significant because it's happening in the time we are living. Believers typically think that their own generation is the "final generation." The event of 1948 caused great excitement amongst the "end of the worlders." So they added a "generation" (40 years) and subtract 7 for the tribulation and boldly declared that Christ would return in 1981 = 148 + 40 - 7. That failed, so the scrapped the trib and said 1988. That failed, so they added a year and said 1989. That failed, and along came Harold Camping with his 1994 prediction. That failed, so everyone went nuts with Y2K. That failed ... do you see a pattern here?

The pattern most recent is how next year will be the 66th (2014-1948) -- 'course the 70 years of carrying to Babylon might make 2018 a better pick (who do you like in the 3rd?)

I think you missed the pattern. The pattern is pretty predictable. An end time believer makes a prediction for year X and when that doesn't come to pass, the prediction is changed to X + Y, and when that doesn't come to pass it is changed to X + Y + Z, and when that doesn't come to pass ...

Case in point: End time believers made a BIG deal out of 1988 because it was the 40th anniversary. And now you are focusing on the 66th anniversary. And there are folks focusing on the 70th anniversary because one verse suggests generation is 70 years. And they can keep going till 2068 since they can say a generation is 120 years if they want. And on and on the silliness rolls ... where will the silly-ball bounce next?



Interesting, the way you rolled up the 66 Bible Books (Great Job!), and have found so many 'third' cases, yet deny the Holy Ghost authenticity... Why is that? Have you decided not to give up some secret sin? <img src="images/smilies/winking0071.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Winking0071" smilieid="108" class="inlineimg">

Ha! That's hilarious. And quite typical of Christian psychology. Ya'll seem to be pretty neurotic about secret little human "sins" (peccadilloes) as if an intelligent God who created the whole Universe would really care about such petty things.

It seems extra silly when you think about it because all Christians (except a small specially deluded subclass) know that no believer can stop from "sinning" any more than any unbeliever. Even the Bible says that you would be a liar if you said you didn't sin.

And why would I deny Christianity if I thought it were true? That doesn't make any sense. :dizzy:

And besides, I why couldn't I keep my sin a secret and continue to proclaim the truth of Christianity? If I really believed the Bible is true, why would I say anything different?

And besides all that, if I had some "secret sin" I could just rationalize it and remain a Christian. Christians seem to have a special divine gift that enables them to rationalize pretty much anything.

It's really strange that you don't deal with the reasons I've given. I don't believe the "Holy Ghost" inspired the Bible because it contains blatant errors, contradictions, absurdities, and moral abominations attributed to God. Why don't you understand this? I've explained it a million times on this forum.

[duxrow]

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I think you missed the pattern. The pattern is pretty predictable. An end time believer makes a prediction for year X and when that doesn't come to pass, the prediction is changed to X + Y, and when that doesn't come to pass it is changed to X + Y + Z, and when that doesn't come to pass ...
We each have our own ideas about the 'patterns', Right? Enjoy, cause there's no let-up. :winking0071:

Case in point: End time believers made a BIG deal out of 1988 because it was the 40th anniversary. And now you are focusing on the 66th anniversary. And there are folks focusing on the 70th anniversary because one verse suggests generation is 70 years. And they can keep going till 2068 since they can say a generation is 120 years if they want. And on and on the silliness rolls ... where will the silly-ball bounce next?

Ha! That's hilarious. And quite typical of Christian psychology. Ya'll seem to be pretty neurotic about secret little human "sins" (peccadilloes) as if an intelligent God who created the whole Universe would really care about such petty things.

It seems extra silly when you think about it because all Christians (except a small specially deluded subclass) know that no believer can stop from "sinning" any more than any unbeliever. Even the Bible says that you would be a liar if you said you didn't sin.

And why would I deny Christianity if I thought it were true? That doesn't make any sense. :dizzy:

And besides, I why couldn't I keep my sin a secret and continue to proclaim the truth of Christianity? If I really believed the Bible is true, why would I say anything different?

And besides all that, if I had some "secret sin" I could just rationalize it and remain a Christian. Christians seem to have a special divine gift that enables them to rationalize pretty much anything.

I know--you've BTDT you claim, so you oughta know.. But I sometimes wonder if people who claim to be "IN HIM", really are. ??

It's really strange that you don't deal with the reasons I've given. I don't believe the "Holy Ghost" inspired the Bible because it contains blatant errors, contradictions, absurdities, and moral abominations attributed to God. Why don't you understand this? I've explained it a million times on this forum.

"A million times?" Only heard 67K, but who's counting.. We're not going to agree--that's for sure. But sometimes I hear something that registers, even if it's different from what was intended... :p

[Richard Amiel McGough]

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I think you missed the pattern. The pattern is pretty predictable. An end time believer makes a prediction for year X and when that doesn't come to pass, the prediction is changed to X + Y, and when that doesn't come to pass it is changed to X + Y + Z, and when that doesn't come to pass ... We each have our own ideas about the 'patterns', Right? Enjoy, cause there's no let-up. :winking0071:

Yes, we all have our own ideas. But there's also this thing called "objective reality" which is the real world where we can share common experiences of real things which are not merely subjective.

As far as I can tell, you are like most Christians in that you believe there is an objective reality, correct? Are you saying that your patterns are not part of objective reality?

And again, it is a big bother to answer when you post your answer in quotes within quotes.



Case in point: End time believers made a BIG deal out of 1988 because it was the 40th anniversary. And now you are focusing on the 66th anniversary. And there are folks focusing on the 70th anniversary because one verse suggests generation is 70 years. And they can keep going till 2068 since they can say a generation is 120 years if they want. And on and on the silliness rolls ... where will the silly-ball bounce next?

Ha! That's hilarious. And quite typical of Christian psychology. Ya'll seem to be pretty neurotic about secret little human "sins" (peccadilloes) as if an intelligent God who created the whole Universe would really care about such petty things.

It seems extra silly when you think about it because all Christians (except a small specially deluded subclass) know that no believer can stop from "sinning" any more than any unbeliever. Even the Bible says that you would be a liar if you said you didn't sin.

And why would I deny Christianity if I thought it were true? That doesn't make any sense. :dizzy:

And besides, I why couldn't I keep my sin a secret and continue to proclaim the truth of Christianity? If I really believed the Bible is true, why would I say anything different?

And besides all that, if I had some "secret sin" I could just rationalize it and remain a Christian. Christians seem to have a special divine gift that enables them to rationalize pretty much anything.
I know--you've BTDT you claim, so you oughta know.. But I sometimes wonder if people who claim to be "IN HIM", really are. ??

I had to Google BTDT to find it means "Been there, done that."

It is good that you wonder if folks who claim to be "in him" really are, since there is no way for anyone to know. Indeed, there is no way for you to know. That's the question you really must ask - how do you know God exists, and if he exists, how do you distinguish between his voice and your own imagination? For your answer to be real, you must come up with a way you could tell if anyone is or is not "in him." And of course we both know that's impossible. Therefore, all such claims are meaningless.

But the one thing you can know is this: When I was a Christian, I spoke of God and my experience with the Holy Spirit in exactly the same way as any other Christian. I proclaimed the Gospel to be true. I proclaimed the Triune God. I proclaimed Jesus saved me from my sins.



It's really strange that you don't deal with the reasons I've given. I don't believe the "Holy Ghost" inspired the Bible because it contains blatant errors, contradictions, absurdities, and moral abominations attributed to God. Why don't you understand this? I've explained it a million times on this forum.

"A million times?" Only heard 67K, but who's counting.. We're not going to agree--that's for sure. But sometimes I hear something that registers, even if it's different from what was intended... :p
Thanks for the correction, but I bet the number is closer to 68k really. :winking0071:

And yes, we all miss things for all sorts of reasons. So that's cool. I don't really mind repeating myself. But sometimes it seems pretty silly when the repetition count gets really big.

[Brother Les]

We are in the eighth day.