Why Would God Show Me This?

[paul123]

Why would God show me this? I’m just nobody, I was In prayer, and in the distant in the darkness on the left I saw a sun in the position of a sunrise, and as I am starring at it, flashed inside my body, and I felt glorious joy and happiness, and there with God I did not need anything to eat or drink, the only thing that matters is the relationship I have with him nothing else, and this world and everything it has to offer is absolutely nothing compare to what he has in store for us, and I realised I love Jesus more than anybody on earth.

[duxrow]

Why would God show me this? I’m just nobody, I was In prayer, and in the distant in the darkness on the left I saw a sun in the position of a sunrise, and as I am starring at it, flashed inside my body, and I felt glorious joy and happiness, and there with God I did not need anything to eat or drink, the only thing that matters is the relationship I have with him nothing else, and this world and everything it has to offer is absolutely nothing compare to what he has in store for us, and I realised I love Jesus more than anybody on earth.

1. Maybe you really aren't a 'nobody'.

2. Sunrise on left indicates you're heading South -- but God dwells on the 'sides of the North', so maybe you're heading wrong direction?

3. Enjoy the Sunrise till He Comes in the Clouds! :yo:

[Linnorm Noxot]

Why would God show me this? I’m just nobody, I was In prayer, and in the distant in the darkness on the left I saw a sun in the position of a sunrise, and as I am starring at it, flashed inside my body, and I felt glorious joy and happiness, and there with God I did not need anything to eat or drink, the only thing that matters is the relationship I have with him nothing else, and this world and everything it has to offer is absolutely nothing compare to what he has in store for us, and I realised I love Jesus more than anybody on earth.

if you think God loves you more than he loves other people then you have a fault.
if you think the world is complete trash then you have a fault.
if you think you love Jesus more than anybody on the earth, but do not love all people on the earth, then you are a liar.

but you are right, our relationship with God is what we need and if we really want a close relationship with God we will be willing to cast away bad doctrines and move forwards with attempting to bring the kingdom of God to earth more. to get closer to God we must be united to God in love, if we have Gods love then we will properly love all others. when we cut off Gods love it becomes self-love or a love towards something less than God, and that is what sin is, anything less than God. Jesus came to the world to save the world, not to condemn it. if you think God has an ounce of hate in him, you better seek him out all the more, least you find yourself in love with a lamb that speaks like a dragon.

but remember that the kingdom of God is inside of you and please do not let anything get in the way between you and God. suffering in this world is part of spiritual progression. if you really do love Jesus more than anybody on earth, know that the earth is tiny, there is always more room for more love, and may God fill you all the more, and may you love people as Jesus does.


The understanding of Christianity, as a religion of personal salvation from perdition, is a system of transcendental egoism, or transcendental utilitarianism and eudaimonism.

[ironsheik7]

if you think God loves you more than he loves other people then you have a fault.
if you think the world is complete trash then you have a fault.
if you think you love Jesus more than anybody on the earth, but do not love all people on the earth, then you are a liar.

but you are right, our relationship with God is what we need and if we really want a close relationship with God we will be willing to cast away bad doctrines and move forwards with attempting to bring the kingdom of God to earth more. to get closer to God we must be united to God in love, if we have Gods love then we will properly love all others. when we cut off Gods love it becomes self-love or a love towards something less than God, and that is what sin is, anything less than God. Jesus came to the world to save the world, not to condemn it. if you think God has an ounce of hate in him, you better seek him out all the more, least you find yourself in love with a lamb that speaks like a dragon.

but remember that the kingdom of God is inside of you and please do not let anything get in the way between you and God. suffering in this world is part of spiritual progression. if you really do love Jesus more than anybody on earth, know that the earth is tiny, there is always more room for more love, and may God fill you all the more, and may you love people as Jesus does.



if you think God loves you more than he loves other people then you have a fault.

You're wrong,because god does love some, more than others.

Romans 9:13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.

Romans 9:22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:

Scripture shows us that some men were made for the purpose of gods wrath and were made to be cast into hell for gods glory. Pharaoh was made as a vessel of wrath.

Romans 9:17 For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth.

As we see god didn't love Pharaoh at all, Pharaoh was made for one purpose, so that god might use this vessel of wrath to show his power to the Israelites.

Romans 9:18 Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth.

God purposely hardened Pharaoh's heart so that he would not let the people go. If god can harden Pharaoh heart then who is to say he doesn't harden other peoples hearts so that they may believe a lie and be damned ?

2 Thessalonians
2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
2:12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

As 2 Thessalonians tells us he sends strong delusions that some shall believe lies and be damned. Scripture also tells us god creates evil.

Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.


if you think the world is complete trash then you have a fault.

the world is trash, that is why god starts over and makes a new earth, if the earth was no trash and was so perfect god wouldn't make a new one

Revelation And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

And what does Jesus think of this world, he tells us In John the 15th chapter

John 15:18 If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you.
15:19 If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.

Jesus says if you are of the world it will love you and you will love it. But the elect are not of this world because Jesus has chosen you out of the world so the world hates you. Jesus continues on

John 15:20 Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also.

So yes this world is trash, how can you love a world that hates the messiah that has died for you ? To stand with this world and love this world is to hate Jesus himself.



if you think you love Jesus more than anybody on the earth, but do not love all people on the earth, then you are a liar

true as Jesus said , Mark 12:31 And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.

and also

Matthew 6:14 For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you:
6:15 But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.

But does god love others on the earth more than others.

Genesis
6:7 And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.

But did he destroy all humans like he said he would ? The answer is no.

Genesis 6:8 But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD.

If Noah was saved, and millions outside the ark were damned, then that means god loved Noah more than he loved them. Because as scripture tells us Noah found grace in the eyes of the lord. Another man that god loved more than other men was David

Acts 13:22 And when he had removed him, he raised up unto them David to be their king; to whom also he gave their testimony, and said, I have found David the son of Jesse, a man after mine own heart, which shall fulfil all my will.

Also Abraham was another who god found great favor with and loved above other men.
In fact he loved Abraham so much he did the following

Genesis 17:1 And when Abram was ninety years old and nine, the LORD appeared to Abram, and said unto him, I am the Almighty God; walk before me, and be thou perfect. 17:2 And I will make my covenant between me and thee, and will multiply thee exceedingly. 17:3 And Abram fell on his face: and God talked with him, saying, 17:4 As for me, behold, my covenant is with thee, and thou shalt be a father of many nations. 17:5 Neither shall thy name any more be called Abram, but thy name shall be Abraham; for a father of many nations have I made thee. 17:6 And I will make thee exceeding fruitful, and I will make nations of thee, and kings shall come out of thee. 17:7 And I will establish my covenant between me and thee and thy seed after thee in their generations for an everlasting covenant, to be a God unto thee, and to thy seed after thee. 17:8 And I will give unto thee, and to thy seed after thee, the land wherein thou art a stranger, all the land of Canaan, for an everlasting possession; and I will be their God.

[Linnorm Noxot]

You're wrong,because god does love some, more than others.

Romans 9:13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.

Romans 9:22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:

Scripture shows us that some men were made for the purpose of gods wrath and were made to be cast into hell for gods glory. Pharaoh was made as a vessel of wrath.

Romans 9:17 For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth.

As we see god didn't love Pharaoh at all, Pharaoh was made for one purpose, so that god might use this vessel of wrath to show his power to the Israelites.

Romans 9:18 Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth.

God purposely hardened Pharaoh's heart so that he would not let the people go. If god can harden Pharaoh heart then who is to say he doesn't harden other peoples hearts so that they may believe a lie and be damned ?

2 Thessalonians
2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
2:12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

As 2 Thessalonians tells us he sends strong delusions that some shall believe lies and be damned. Scripture also tells us god creates evil.

Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

what you have done (like most people do) is read the bible and understand with a low view of who God is. does it not occur to you that the various religious sects around in the time of Jesus Christ hated and fought against jesus, not knowing the very one that they daily read about? so what makes you so special, to think you know who God is, or his ways when he says:
Isa 55:8-9 (YLT)
For not My thoughts are your thoughts, Nor your ways My ways, --an affirmation of Jehovah, For high have the heavens been above the earth, So high have been My ways above your ways, And My thoughts above your thoughts.

can you prove to me that this verse does not apply to you?

2 Thessalonians 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

prove you are not delusional in your understanding of God. prove that you are not just as the religious hypocrites of jesus day were. you know the weird thing about being delusional is that you don't know that you are delusional.



the world is trash, that is why god starts over and makes a new earth, if the earth was no trash and was so perfect god wouldn't make a new one

Revelation And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

And what does Jesus think of this world, he tells us In John the 15th chapter

John 15:18 If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you.
15:19 If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.

Jesus says if you are of the world it will love you and you will love it. But the elect are not of this world because Jesus has chosen you out of the world so the world hates you. Jesus continues on

John 15:20 Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also.

So yes this world is trash, how can you love a world that hates the messiah that has died for you ? To stand with this world and love this world is to hate Jesus himself.

the word "world" is symbolic of the evil in it, not the entire world. does every single human being persecute you? also the bible is mostly symbolic and parabolic, if you read it with a literal understanding you will fall into the most grievous of errors. and if you still are a spiritual baby and have not followed the milk of the bible then you will not have a good grasp on who God is at all. also most christian fall into the error that all the good things automatically apply to themselves and all the bad things in the bible applies to people who do not follow jesus christ (according to their judgement). but this is foolish for obvious reasons. without love you will never know who God is. the more you let go of yourself and your wicked understanding the more room you give for the Holy Spirit to teach you who he really is. if you are not broken inside of your heart the you can be assured that you are no where close enough to even grasping how God feels about other people. sadly most christians do not get enough spiritual teachings in the church buildings they go to, or they do not seek out a teacher of the bible that understand that the bible is a spiritual book.



true as Jesus said , Mark 12:31 And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.

and also

Matthew 6:14 For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you:
6:15 But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.


ah look at your own hypocrisy now, look at your own understanding and repent and believe that you do not get who God is at all. do you think god is going to command you to love your neighbour as yourself and He Himself not love all others more than you can love even your own self? are you better than God? I don't see how you can forgive men their trespasses when you speak a lot of condemnation about them. the way you read the bible shows the evil in your own heart such as this:


Scripture shows us that some men were made for the purpose of gods wrath and were made to be cast into hell for gods glory. Pharaoh was made as a vessel of wrath.

people are going to be thrown in hell and suffer for Gods glory? are you insane? do you think God gets glory for making people suffer forever and ever (as you believe he does) when he told you to love your neighbor as yourself? do you want to know how I know hell is not what 90% of christains say it is? because 90% of christians say it is the way it is and blindly followed after that bad teaching without seeking God out on the matter. go and read origen if you want to know how to read the bible. I have no ability at all to teach you. http://www.amazon.com/Origen-Exhortation-Martyrdom-Prayer-Selected/dp/0809121980 is a good start to build a solid foundation for who God is and how to read the bible. his commentary on the gospel of john is very good, it can help you to get a better understanding of God.
http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/origen-john1.html
http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/origen-john2.html
http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/origen-john4.html
http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/origen-john5.html
http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/origen-john6.html
http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/origen-john10.html

[Rose]

Why would God show me this? I’m just nobody, I was In prayer, and in the distant in the darkness on the left I saw a sun in the position of a sunrise, and as I am starring at it, flashed inside my body, and I felt glorious joy and happiness, and there with God I did not need anything to eat or drink, the only thing that matters is the relationship I have with him nothing else, and this world and everything it has to offer is absolutely nothing compare to what he has in store for us, and I realised I love Jesus more than anybody on earth.

Hi Paul123,

There really is no question as to why you experienced glorious joy and happiness, if you realize that what was revealed to you was your own inner self (not god) waking you up and telling you that first and foremost you need to have a relationship with YOURSELF. Each and everyone of us is part of what makes up this universe and we are each just as important and meaningful as anyone else...we are somebody and should be special to ourselves.

All the best,
Rose

[Richard Amiel McGough]

people are going to be thrown in hell and suffer for Gods glory? are you insane? do you think God gets glory for making people suffer forever and ever (as you believe he does) when he told you to love your neighbor as yourself? do you want to know how I know hell is not what 90% of christains say it is? because 90% of christians say it is the way it is and blindly followed after that bad teaching without seeking God out on the matter. go and read origen if you want to know how to read the bible. I have no ability at all to teach you. http://www.amazon.com/Origen-Exhortation-Martyrdom-Prayer-Selected/dp/0809121980 is a good start to build a solid foundation for who God is and how to read the bible. his commentary on the gospel of john is very good, it can help you to get a better understanding of God.
http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/origen-john1.html
http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/origen-john2.html
http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/origen-john4.html
http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/origen-john5.html
http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/origen-john6.html
http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/origen-john10.html
I agree that it would be insane to believe that "people are going to be thrown in hell and suffer for Gods glory" but that's what Christians have taught for 2000 years. It is taught by both Catholics and Protestants.

I can see why you appeal to Origin - he was declared a HERETIC :prophet: because he taught universalism (no hell). That shows how deeply this doctrine is ingrained into orthodox Christianity. Indeed, modern fundamentalists go crazy over it. Matt Slick, the owner of CARM, allows anything to be discussed on his forum except Satanism and Universalism!

I wrestled with the problem of hell a lot during my years as a Christian. I never felt I could outright deny it but neither could I assert it was true. So I let it simmer on the back burner for a long time. But as I thought more about it, I concluded that annihilationism was probably the best fit to the Biblical data.

[paul123]

Rose I am less than nothing, I beg you on my hands and knees with my tears, I ask ever person to pray to God daily for his mercy on all of us, Thank you.