From Peter to Paul

[duxrow]

:snowfight:From Peter to Paul..

The Book of Acts begins with Peter as the chief spokesman of the twelve, but his
authority diminishes gradually as the Apostle Paul takes over. As John the Baptist
said about Jesus: "He must increase, but I must decrease".

The Old Testament precept from 2Sam3:1,10, spoke of
how the House of David was increasing, but the House of Saul was declining.


Contrast and compare Peter with Paul: (Book of Acts)

1. Peter was freed from jail by an angel: 12:6. For Paul it was an earthquake: 16:25.

2. Notable healing by Peter was lame man of 3:2. For Paul it was the cripple of 14:9.

3. Peter raised Tabitha from dead: 9:36. For Paul it was Eutychus: 20:9

4. Compare the "shadow of Peter", 5:15, with the "handkerchief of Paul", 19:12.

5. Peter was special minister to the Jews. Paul to the Gentiles. Galatians 2:7.

6. Peter denied Jesus three times. Mk14:30. God denied Paul thrice. 2Cor12:8.

7. Peter 'ministered' to Ananias & Sapphira...it fits the pattern of "first the male,
and then the female", Acts5 -- "3 hours later". Paul ministered to Aquila & Priscilla: Acts18:2.

8. Peter was sent to Cornelius (first Gentile). 10:45. Paul went to Rome: 28:28. (not Peter!)

9. Peter wrote "as obedient children.." 1Pet1:14. Paul wrote "be ye no more children", Eph4:14.

10. Count their speeches: Peter has seven, and Paul has eight. Or thereabouts. :thumb:

[duxrow]

11. Peter was a surname, but Paul was a NEW NAME for Saul.

SURNAMES. The Old Testament didn't use surnames (last names) although Isaiah 44:5 and 45:4 spoke of them. James and John were surnamed Boanerges by Jesus himself, Mk3:17, and also Simon surnamed Peter. It's peculiar how his brother Andrew is never called Andrew Peter. Others with surnames include Judas Iscariot and Lebbaeus Thaddaeus.

"Didymus" (means twin) was not the last name of Thomas, but the Gospel of John says three times he was called by that name, even though none of the synoptic gospels make that claim. Some think Thomas looked like Jesus; therefor the kiss to identify Jesus from others. :thumb:

[sylvius]

11. Peter was a surname, but Paul was a NEW NAME for Saul.

SURNAMES. The Old Testament didn't use surnames (last names) although Isaiah 44:5 and 45:4 spoke of them. James and John were surnamed Boanerges by Jesus himself, Mk3:17, and also Simon surnamed Peter. It's peculiar how his brother Andrew is never called Andrew Peter. Others with surnames include Judas Iscariot and Lebbaeus Thaddaeus.

"Didymus" (means twin) was not the last name of Thomas, but the Gospel of John says three times he was called by that name, even though none of the synoptic gospels make that claim. Some think Thomas looked like Jesus; therefor the kiss to identify Jesus from others. :thumb:

Some think surname Peter was meant ironic, since Simon proved to be not at all a rock to build on.

[duxrow]

some think surname Peter was meant in an ironic sense, since Simon proved to be not at all a rock to build on.
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Yeah, Sylvy, 'and he's also Cephus (a stone), but when Jesus said "upon THIS rock I'll build my church",
I imagine he was pointing to himself, because Christ is the Rock! 1Cor10:4 Amen? :thumb:

[sylvius]

:typing:
Yeah, Sylvy, 'and he's also Cephus (a stone), but when Jesus said "upon THIS rock I'll build my church",
I imagine he was pointing to himself, because Christ is the Rock! 1Cor10:4 Amen? :thumb:


Matthew 16:16-19,

Simon Peter said in reply, “You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God.”
Jesus said to him in reply, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah. For flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my heavenly Father. And so I say to you, you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church and the gates of the netherworld shall not prevail against it. I will give you the keys to the kingdom of heaven. Whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven; and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.”

Question is what is meant by "this rock".

It must be the witness “You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God” and not the person surnamed Peter.

When the Council searched witness Peter denied even to know Jesus.

[duxrow]

Matthew 16:16-19,

Simon Peter said in reply, “You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God.”
Jesus said to him in reply, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah. For flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my heavenly Father. And so I say to you, you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church and the gates of the netherworld shall not prevail against it. I will give you the keys to the kingdom of heaven. Whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven; and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.”

Question is what is meant by "this rock".
The one he was pointing at: Himself!
It must be the witness “You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God” and not the person surnamed Peter.

When the Council searched witness Peter denied even to know Jesus.
Scared, it seems. That changed after he rcvd Holy Spirit baptism.

The ROCK is the firm foundation we build our house on: Mt7:24/LK6:48. Maybe we figured Jesus went to build it for us, but NO, everyone gets to build his own house--maybe Jesus is looking for acreage? Heb3:6.

Luke6:48 He is like a man which built an house, and digged deep, and laid the foundation on a rock: and when the flood arose, the stream beat vehemently upon that house, and could not shake it: for it was founded upon a rock. :winking0071:

[David M]

The ROCK is the firm foundation we build our house on: Mt7:24/LK6:48. Maybe we figured Jesus went to build it for us, but NO, everyone gets to build his own house--maybe Jesus is looking for acreage? Heb3:6.

Luke6:48 He is like a man which built an house, and digged deep, and laid the foundation on a rock: and when the flood arose, the stream beat vehemently upon that house, and could not shake it: for it was founded upon a rock. :winking0071:

Hello duxrow

The foundation that is the rock, is also the corner stone on which the whole building is made to fit perfectly together. Any deviation form the true perpendicular is an imperfection. The plumb-
line is also used to measure the deviation from the uprightness beginning at the corner stone. If we have the perfection of Christ bestowed upon us then we can see that we must perfectly fit together as the whole body (building) of Christ. Righteousness equates to uprightness and the plumb-line which is also Jesus shows that in our natural state before we have the perfection of Jesus bestowed upon us, just how far away from perfect uprightness we are.

(Eph. 2:20) And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone; 21 In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:


All the best

David

[David M]

Talking of corner stones, I have been looking at some Youtube videos on archaeology in Israel and Egypt to see what the latest finds are. I have not visited this subject for many years.
I have been left with new things to think about and what remains a mystery. Some of the stones found can weigh up to 200 tons and it is not known how these were moved or could be lifted to the heights they have been. The precision to which the stones have been formed would indicate that machine tools have been used. No evidence of machine tools has been found.

I look forward to making this a topic of a new thread


David