The Three Arks

[duxrow]

:talk002:
1. That first Ark carried the animals and Noah family – why did they call it an Ark, I wondered? I’d have called it a BOAT, or maybe a floating barge or barn.

2. The second Ark also traveled on the water, carrying baby Moses down the River Nile. More like a sea going baby-buggy, I thought, but still called ‘Ark’ in Exodus 2:3.

3. The third Ark (of Testimony) was built in the desert, a long way from water, and was carried on the shoulders of the Levites.

Ex:25:10 “And they shall make an ark of shittim wood: two cubits and a half shall be the length thereof, and a cubit and a half the breadth thereof, and a cubit and a half the height thereof. 25:11 And thou shalt overlay it with pure gold, within and without shalt thou overlay it, and shalt make upon it a crown of gold round about”.

This third Ark finally reached the Jordan River, led by Joshua, 3:13, but just as the feet of the priests got wet, the water divided and they had to carry it further yet. Did they wonder if all that gold would make it too heavy to float? And 3 objects were carried inside: the Tablets, the Manna, and the Rod that budded, all went along for the ride! Heb9:4

** Not a ‘boat’, and not called an Ark, but the Virgin Mary was a ‘container’ of the Lord Jesus Christ until that great day when he was birthed in Bethlehem (means ‘house of bread’); in a manger (reminding me how suitable for the Lamb of God). And now when we follow after Galatians 4:19 “My little children, of whom I travail in birth again until Christ be formed in you”, we may all be considered “ARKS OF TESTIMONY”. Amen? :winking0071:

[sylvius]

:talk002:
1. That first Ark carried the animals and Noah family – why did they call it an Ark, I wondered? I’d have called it a BOAT, or maybe a floating barge or barn.

2. The second Ark also traveled on the water, carrying baby Moses down the River Nile. More like a sea going baby-buggy, I thought, but still called ‘Ark’ in Exodus 2:3.

3. The third Ark (of Testimony) was built in the desert, a long way from water, and was carried on the shoulders of the Levites.

Ex:25:10 “And they shall make an ark of shittim wood: two cubits and a half shall be the length thereof, and a cubit and a half the breadth thereof, and a cubit and a half the height thereof. 25:11 And thou shalt overlay it with pure gold, within and without shalt thou overlay it, and shalt make upon it a crown of gold round about”.

This third Ark finally reached the Jordan River, led by Joshua, 3:13, but just as the feet of the priests got wet, the water divided and they had to carry it further yet. Did they wonder if all that gold would make it too heavy to float? And 3 objects were carried inside: the Tablets, the Manna, and the Rod that budded, all went along for the ride! Heb9:4

** Not a ‘boat’, and not called an Ark, but the Virgin Mary was a ‘container’ of the Lord Jesus Christ until that great day when he was birthed in Bethlehem (means ‘house of bread’); in a manger (reminding me how suitable for the Lamb of God). And now when we follow after Galatians 4:19 “My little children, of whom I travail in birth again until Christ be formed in you”, we may all be considered “ARKS OF TESTIMONY”. Amen? :winking0071:

There is still another container, a little flask of olive oil that was left after the desecration of the Temple by the Greeks and that sufficed to have the Menorah burn for eight days.

In Hebrew it is called "pach".

It is said that Jacob found it inside the stone that had served him as a cushion in the night he dreamt of the ladder, and that he did anoint the stone with it, Genesis 28:18-20,

And Jacob arose early in the morning, and he took the stone that he had placed at his head, and he set it up as a monument, and he poured oil on top of it. And he named the place Beth El, but Luz was orignally the name of the city. And Jacob uttered a vow, saying, "If God will be with me, and He will guard me on this way, upon which I am going, and He will give me bread to eat and a garment to wear;

But when returning to Canaan he had forgotten it, both the flask and the vow.

That's why he went back, Genesis 32:24-25,

And he took them and brought them across the stream, and he took across what was his. And Jacob was left alone, and a man wrestled with him until the break of dawn.

Rashi:


And Jacob was left: He had forgotten small bottles and returned for them. — [from Gen. Rabbah 77:2, Chullin 91a]
שכח פכים קטנים וחזר עליהם
"shachat pachim k'tanim v'chazar aleihem"


which made me think of: "It just unslipped my mind" (a song by the Doors) -

There is something you just can't get.

Oil of course is the essece of the light, even of the light of the first day.

It is obtained in Getsemane = "gat- sh'manim" = oil press.

From the olive, the fruit of the sixth day (after Deuteronomy 8:8)

It is a miracle, Hebrew "nes".

[David M]

There is still another container, a little flask of olive oil that was left after the desecration of the Temple by the Greeks and that sufficed to have the Menorah burn for eight days.



And Jacob arose early in the morning, and he took the stone that he had placed at his head, and he set it up as a monument, and he poured oil on top of it. And he named the place Beth El, but Luz was orignally the name of the city. And Jacob uttered a vow, saying, "If God will be with me, and He will guard me on this way, upon which I am going, and He will give me bread to eat and a garment to wear;

But when returning to Canaan he had forgotten it, both the flask and the vow.


Oil of course is the essece of the light, even of the light of the first day.


Just a thought from this. What about the parable of the ten virgins and the five foolish virgins that did not have oil in their vessels (arks). They were not around when the bridegroom finally arrived after what seemed like long time (2000 years?) and having no light they had gone away to get more oil. Had they had oil in their vessels in reserve, they would have gone into the marriage supper. In the context of the kingdom of God and being saved, they would have been saved if they had reserved oil in their vessels.


David

[sylvius]

Just a thought from this. What about the parable of the ten virgins and the five foolish virgins that did not have oil in their vessels (arks). They were not around when the bridegroom finally arrived after what seemed like long time (2000 years?) and having no light they had gone away to get more oil. Had they had oil in their vessels in reserve, they would have gone into the marriage supper. In the context of the kingdom of God and being saved, they would have been saved if they had reserved oil in their vessels.


David

So you might think Matthew here does rebuke the Preterists who are in lack of oil and not having any reserve.

[David M]

Hello Sylvius


So you might think Matthew here does rebuke the Preterists who are in lack of oil and not having any reserve.

I think Matthew would rebuke Preterists for not having a vessel in which to keep oil.


David

[Gil]

Howdy,

The oil that came from the two olive trees that feed the candlestick had been extinguished.
The center candle that was the Jewish Messiah is now the Christ post AD70.

Our light shines from within the Body of Christ of which we are members.
The Christ consciousness within us.
The light of life is no longer of oil.
Our faith is our anointing.
The BOC was made fully manifest in AD70.
Preterists should understand this, yet some may not.

And yes, it is the light of the first day that took it out of darkness.

Gil :pop2:

[David M]

Howdy,

The oil that came from the two olive trees that feed the candlestick had been extinguished.
The center candle that was the Jewish Messiah is now the Christ post AD70.

Our light shines from within the Body of Christ of which we are members.
The Christ consciousness within us.
The light of life is no longer of oil.
Our faith is our anointing.
The BOC was made fully manifest in AD70.
Preterists should understand this, yet some may not.

And yes, it is the light of the first day that took it out of darkness.

Gil :pop2:

Hello Gil

Since Paul was already saying that those to whom he preached and accepted Jesus etc. were already member (in spirit) of his (spiritual body) body. (1 Cor. 12:27) Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular.

What was special about AD70 to say that the Body of Christ was fully manifest? What do you mean by the word "fully" and what was manifest (made visible)? What had the destruction of the temple to do with that which had already started and is continuing until Jesus returns?


David