CWH
08-09-2012, 05:23 AM
Looks like I have to answer my own questions as usual. Please see my resonses in red:
In this thread, I would like to discuss what is LUST i.e. lust of the flesh? The answer is all found in the Bible. I would like to focus on the following issues and I would like the floor to respond first before I give my responses.
Wiki on lust:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lust
1. Why is God so concern about human lust?
Because He is concerned about sexual sins getting out of control. Sexuals sins will result in immorality and venereal diseases and AIDS. Such will cause the decline of human society and civilization. Imagine going anywhere and everyone is demanding for sex as in the account of Sodom and Gomorrah.
2. Does lust leads to sexual sins?
Yes as it will lead to promiscuity, prostitution, etc.etc.
3. Will eradication of lust leads to eradication of sexual sins such as rape, adulteries etc.
Yes, obviously. A lustful persaon seeing a naked woman on the bed will think that the woman desires sex whereas an unlustful person will think the poor woman have nothing to wear and will provide her with some clothings.
4. How can we get rid of human lust? Is it possible?
Humanly impossible. How to get rid of rape, hoimosexuality, prostituition, adultery, fornication, one night stand, romiscuity, molestatikons, nudity, pornography, bestiality, forncation, pedophilia, sodomy etc, etc?
5. Is lust always evil and bad?
Yes and No. Lust is not evil and bad if the lust is for your own wife and husband.... if not how to bear children and maintain love and relationship? It is considered bad and evil if it is lust with another man's wife and husband or others and perversely. It will lead to distrust between husband and wife and disrupt the vow and sanctity of marriage. This will lead to decline in moral and family values and ultimately human society and civilization.
The meaning of lust is illustrated in the Bible in red:
Here is the whole list in the Bible related to lust:
1. Numbers 15:39
You will have these tassels to look at and so you will remember all the commands of the LORD, that you may obey them and not prostitute yourselves by chasing after the lusts of your own hearts and eyes.
2. Job 31:1
“I made a covenant with my eyes not to look lustfully at a young woman.
3. Proverbs 6:25
Do not lust in your heart after her beauty or let her captivate you with her eyes.(Seduction)
4. Isaiah 57:5
You burn with lust among the oaks and under every spreading tree(Fornication); you sacrifice your children(Pedophilia?) in the ravines and under the overhanging crags.
5. Isaiah 57:8
Behind your doors and your doorposts you have put your pagan symbols. Forsaking me, you uncovered your bed, you climbed into it and opened it wide; you made a pact with those whose beds you love(Promiscuity), and you looked with lust on their naked bodies(Nudity).
6. Jeremiah 5:8
They are well-fed, lusty stallions(Bestiality?), each neighing for another man’s wife(Adultery).
7. Jeremiah 13:27
your adulteries and lustful neighings, your shameless prostitution! I have seen your detestable acts on the hills and in the fields. Woe to you, Jerusalem! How long will you be unclean?”
9. Ezekiel 6:9
Then in the nations where they have been carried captive, those who escape will remember me—how I have been grieved by their adulterous hearts, which have turned away from me, and by their eyes, which have lusted after their idols. They will loathe themselves for the evil they have done and for all their detestable practices.
10. Ezekiel 16:36
This is what the Sovereign LORD says: Because you poured out your lust and exposed your naked body in your promiscuity with your lovers, and because of all your detestable idols, and because you gave them your children’s blood,
11. Ezekiel 20:24
because they had not obeyed my laws but had rejected my decrees and desecrated my Sabbaths, and their eyes lusted after their parents’ idols (incest?).
12. Ezekiel 20:30
[ Rebellious Israel Renewed ] “Therefore say to the Israelites: ‘This is what the Sovereign LORD says: Will you defile yourselves the way your ancestors did and lust after their vile images?
13. Ezekiel 23:5
“Oholah engaged in prostitution while she was still mine; and she lusted after her lovers, the Assyrians—warriors
14. Ezekiel 23:7
She gave herself as a prostitute to all the elite of the Assyrians and defiled herself with all the idols of everyone she lusted after.
15. Ezekiel 23:8
She did not give up the prostitution she began in Egypt, when during her youth men slept with her, caressed her virgin bosom and poured out their lust on her(Fornication).
16. Ezekiel 23:9
“Therefore I delivered her into the hands of her lovers, the Assyrians, for whom she lusted.
17. Ezekiel 23:11
“Her sister Oholibah saw this, yet in her lust and prostitution she was more depraved than her sister.
18. Ezekiel 23:12
She too lusted after the Assyrians—governors and commanders, warriors in full dress, mounted horsemen, all handsome young men.
19. Ezekiel 23:16
As soon as she saw them, she lusted after them and sent messengers to them in Chaldea.
20. Ezekiel 23:17
Then the Babylonians came to her, to the bed of love, and in their lust they defiled her. After she had been defiled by them, she turned away from them in disgust.
21. Ezekiel 23:20
There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses(Bestiality?).
22. Ezekiel 23:30
have brought this on you, because you lusted after the nations and defiled yourself with their idols.
23. Nahum 3:4
all because of the wanton lust of a prostitute, alluring, the mistress of sorceries, who enslaved nations by her prostitution and peoples by her witchcraft.
24. Matthew 5:28
But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart.
25. Romans 1:26
Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones.26.
Romans 1:27
In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.
27. Colossians 3:5
Put to death, therefore, whatever belongs to your earthly nature: sexual immorality, impurity, lust, evil desires and greed, which is idolatry.
28. 1 Thessalonians 4:5
not in passionate lust like the pagans, who do not know God;
29. 1 Peter 4:3
For you have spent enough time in the past doing what pagans choose to do—living in debauchery, lust, drunkenness, orgies, carousing and detestable idolatry.
30. 2 Peter 2:18
For they mouth empty, boastful words and, by appealing to the lustful desires of the flesh, they entice people who are just escaping from those who live in error.
31. 1 John 2:16
For everything in the world—the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life—comes not from the Father but from the world.
May God prevent us from sexual sins.
In this thread, I would like to discuss what is LUST i.e. lust of the flesh? The answer is all found in the Bible. I would like to focus on the following issues and I would like the floor to respond first before I give my responses.
Wiki on lust:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lust
1. Why is God so concern about human lust?
Because He is concerned about sexual sins getting out of control. Sexuals sins will result in immorality and venereal diseases and AIDS. Such will cause the decline of human society and civilization. Imagine going anywhere and everyone is demanding for sex as in the account of Sodom and Gomorrah.
2. Does lust leads to sexual sins?
Yes as it will lead to promiscuity, prostitution, etc.etc.
3. Will eradication of lust leads to eradication of sexual sins such as rape, adulteries etc.
Yes, obviously. A lustful persaon seeing a naked woman on the bed will think that the woman desires sex whereas an unlustful person will think the poor woman have nothing to wear and will provide her with some clothings.
4. How can we get rid of human lust? Is it possible?
Humanly impossible. How to get rid of rape, hoimosexuality, prostituition, adultery, fornication, one night stand, romiscuity, molestatikons, nudity, pornography, bestiality, forncation, pedophilia, sodomy etc, etc?
5. Is lust always evil and bad?
Yes and No. Lust is not evil and bad if the lust is for your own wife and husband.... if not how to bear children and maintain love and relationship? It is considered bad and evil if it is lust with another man's wife and husband or others and perversely. It will lead to distrust between husband and wife and disrupt the vow and sanctity of marriage. This will lead to decline in moral and family values and ultimately human society and civilization.
The meaning of lust is illustrated in the Bible in red:
Here is the whole list in the Bible related to lust:
1. Numbers 15:39
You will have these tassels to look at and so you will remember all the commands of the LORD, that you may obey them and not prostitute yourselves by chasing after the lusts of your own hearts and eyes.
2. Job 31:1
“I made a covenant with my eyes not to look lustfully at a young woman.
3. Proverbs 6:25
Do not lust in your heart after her beauty or let her captivate you with her eyes.(Seduction)
4. Isaiah 57:5
You burn with lust among the oaks and under every spreading tree(Fornication); you sacrifice your children(Pedophilia?) in the ravines and under the overhanging crags.
5. Isaiah 57:8
Behind your doors and your doorposts you have put your pagan symbols. Forsaking me, you uncovered your bed, you climbed into it and opened it wide; you made a pact with those whose beds you love(Promiscuity), and you looked with lust on their naked bodies(Nudity).
6. Jeremiah 5:8
They are well-fed, lusty stallions(Bestiality?), each neighing for another man’s wife(Adultery).
7. Jeremiah 13:27
your adulteries and lustful neighings, your shameless prostitution! I have seen your detestable acts on the hills and in the fields. Woe to you, Jerusalem! How long will you be unclean?”
9. Ezekiel 6:9
Then in the nations where they have been carried captive, those who escape will remember me—how I have been grieved by their adulterous hearts, which have turned away from me, and by their eyes, which have lusted after their idols. They will loathe themselves for the evil they have done and for all their detestable practices.
10. Ezekiel 16:36
This is what the Sovereign LORD says: Because you poured out your lust and exposed your naked body in your promiscuity with your lovers, and because of all your detestable idols, and because you gave them your children’s blood,
11. Ezekiel 20:24
because they had not obeyed my laws but had rejected my decrees and desecrated my Sabbaths, and their eyes lusted after their parents’ idols (incest?).
12. Ezekiel 20:30
[ Rebellious Israel Renewed ] “Therefore say to the Israelites: ‘This is what the Sovereign LORD says: Will you defile yourselves the way your ancestors did and lust after their vile images?
13. Ezekiel 23:5
“Oholah engaged in prostitution while she was still mine; and she lusted after her lovers, the Assyrians—warriors
14. Ezekiel 23:7
She gave herself as a prostitute to all the elite of the Assyrians and defiled herself with all the idols of everyone she lusted after.
15. Ezekiel 23:8
She did not give up the prostitution she began in Egypt, when during her youth men slept with her, caressed her virgin bosom and poured out their lust on her(Fornication).
16. Ezekiel 23:9
“Therefore I delivered her into the hands of her lovers, the Assyrians, for whom she lusted.
17. Ezekiel 23:11
“Her sister Oholibah saw this, yet in her lust and prostitution she was more depraved than her sister.
18. Ezekiel 23:12
She too lusted after the Assyrians—governors and commanders, warriors in full dress, mounted horsemen, all handsome young men.
19. Ezekiel 23:16
As soon as she saw them, she lusted after them and sent messengers to them in Chaldea.
20. Ezekiel 23:17
Then the Babylonians came to her, to the bed of love, and in their lust they defiled her. After she had been defiled by them, she turned away from them in disgust.
21. Ezekiel 23:20
There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses(Bestiality?).
22. Ezekiel 23:30
have brought this on you, because you lusted after the nations and defiled yourself with their idols.
23. Nahum 3:4
all because of the wanton lust of a prostitute, alluring, the mistress of sorceries, who enslaved nations by her prostitution and peoples by her witchcraft.
24. Matthew 5:28
But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart.
25. Romans 1:26
Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones.26.
Romans 1:27
In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.
27. Colossians 3:5
Put to death, therefore, whatever belongs to your earthly nature: sexual immorality, impurity, lust, evil desires and greed, which is idolatry.
28. 1 Thessalonians 4:5
not in passionate lust like the pagans, who do not know God;
29. 1 Peter 4:3
For you have spent enough time in the past doing what pagans choose to do—living in debauchery, lust, drunkenness, orgies, carousing and detestable idolatry.
30. 2 Peter 2:18
For they mouth empty, boastful words and, by appealing to the lustful desires of the flesh, they entice people who are just escaping from those who live in error.
31. 1 John 2:16
For everything in the world—the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life—comes not from the Father but from the world.
May God prevent us from sexual sins.