The Word Says

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I always say what The Word says, because the Word is LIGHT,
It spells the Way we need to pray, and gives us second-sight.
Our feet can be like hinds feet, 'cause hindsight is much better,
So when we sing & praise the Lord, we shake the devil's fetter.

I always say what The Word says, because the Word is a ROCK,
A fortress of Living Words to supply and water God's stock.
If you can stand on principle, you can walk on the water of God,
First you'll have to wash your feet, and get them spiritually shod!

I always say what The Word says, because the Word is CORN!
A kind of sugar from the Lord, so we could be re-born.
He doesn't charge us for it: The oxen ground it out..
So we could fill our sacks up full, and learn to praise and shout!

I always say what The Word says, because the Word is BREAD,
And it feeds as many people as are there to hear it said.
This bread we share is special because we eat it with our ears..
Then we toast it at Communion, and wash it down with cheers!

I always say what The Word says, because the Word is DRINK...
To those who have a thirst for Truth, it causes them to think.
It's not your ordinary water...No, this can be changed to wine,
The words that pour from heaven are from the God who is the Vine!

I always say what my Father says, because the Word is GOD,
The Author wrote a Book of Life for a Standard and a Rod,
We have to fish for the meaning--we can't just camp out on top,
The still that supplies this water, is good to the deepest drop! :yo:

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Is the word a tutor?

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:yes:Rom15:4 For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning, that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope. Fits with the STUDY of 2Tim.

Yes, I believe so. I wrote the poem in the 90's, and often recite wherever -- as for the 2 become one, it agrees with Rom 10 "no difference". Right?:yo:

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:yes:Rom15:4 For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning, that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope. Fits with the STUDY of 2Tim.

Yes, I believe so. I wrote the poem in the 90's, and often recite wherever -- as for the 2 become one, it agrees with Rom 10 "no difference". Right?:yo:

Is there kind of punishment involved for those who don't want to be teached?

Or reward for the diligent pupil?

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:arghh:1Cor14:38 But if any man be ignorant, let him be ignorant.Rom11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

Feel like I'm being your 'straight man' here -- are you really after my thoughts?:yo:

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:arghh:1Cor14:38 But if any man be ignorant, let him be ignorant.Rom11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

Feel like I'm being your 'straight man' here -- are you really after my thoughts?:yo:

Doesn't the word involve a command?

Like the word that came to Jonah?

And the word of the Lord came to Jonah son of Amittai, saying:
Arise, go to Nineveh, the great city, and preach against it, for their evil has come up before Me

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Jonah was under the Old Covenant. Now "all things lawful for me, but not all expedient" (says twice in KJV)

Solomon's Temple compares pattern -- remembering how "the letter of the Law kills, but the Spirit is LIFE giving.."

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Jonah was under the Old Covenant. Now "all things lawful for me, but not all expedient" (says twice in KJV)



Jonah ben Amittai = physical form of the holy spirit (dove), son of truth.

Hebrew "emet"= truth

Jonah said to be the deceased son of the widow of Tsarphat (Zarephath) who was brought back to life by Elijah,

1 Kings 17:24 And the woman said to Elijah: 'Now I know that thou art a man of God, and that the word of the LORD in thy mouth is truth.'

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Jonah ben Amittai = physical form of the holy spirit (dove), son of truth.

Hebrew "emet"= truth
Jonah said to be the deceased son of the widow of Tsarphat (Zarephath) who was brought back to life by Elijah,
1 Kings 17:24 And the woman said to Elijah: 'Now I know that thou art a man of God, and that the word of the LORD in thy mouth is truth.'

"Said to be" -- by whom? Chapt. & verse, plz. Bringing back a son to Life (twice in OT) is maybe a Precept of the Resurrection? You think? :winking0071:

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"Said to be" -- by whom? Chapt. & verse, plz. Bringing back a son to Life (twice in OT) is maybe a Precept of the Resurrection? You think? :winking0071:

Jewish tradition.

1Kings 17:24,
the word of the Lord that is in your mouth --

The same "word of the Lord" coming to Jonah...

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We are leaky vessels, and must regularly check to see if 'what is written' is the way we're remembering.

Ps68:11 "The Lord gave the word: great was the company of those that published it".
Do you see this as female company in your version?

The OT times were verbal mostly, but they believed STRONGLY because they really SAW the miracles -- the iron float, the waters divide, etc. But now in NT is the 'hearing' and 'hearing' -- we are in 'famine' of hearing, and must Read what has been published. A type of Elijah first, and then Elisha -- running from Jezebel, and dunking Naaman. Elisha DID get the mantle from Elijah. Right?:thumb:

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:sCh_christian:
I always say what The Word says, because the Word is LIGHT,
It spells the Way we need to pray, and gives us second-sight.
Our feet can be like hinds feet, 'cause hindsight is much better,
So when we sing & praise the Lord, we shake the devil's fetter.

I always say what The Word says, because the Word is a ROCK,
A fortress of Living Words to supply and water God's stock.
If you can stand on principle, you can walk on the water of God,
First you'll have to wash your feet, and get them spiritually shod!

I always say what The Word says, because the Word is CORN!
A kind of sugar from the Lord, so we could be re-born.
He doesn't charge us for it: The oxen ground it out..
So we could fill our sacks up full, and learn to praise and shout!

I always say what The Word says, because the Word is BREAD,
And it feeds as many people as are there to hear it said.
This bread we share is special because we eat it with our ears..
Then we toast it at Communion, and wash it down with cheers!

I always say what The Word says, because the Word is DRINK...
To those who have a thirst for Truth, it causes them to think.
It's not your ordinary water...No, this can be changed to wine,
The words that pour from heaven are from the God who is the Vine!

I always say what my Father says, because the Word is GOD,
The Author wrote a Book of Life for a Standard and a Rod,
We have to fish for the meaning--we can't just camp out on top,
The still that supplies this water,
is good to the deepest drop! :yo:
When God said "Light Be!", some folks think The Big Bang followed.. :huhsign:
Others think maybe someone had hands on a switch to brighten the planet.

Maybe had nothing to do with light particles (photons), but EVERYTHING to do with Knowledge and Understanding! Especially since the sun and moon weren't created till Day Four,
and when Jesus declared about being the "Light of the World", John8:12, who was "In the Beginning", and The WORD -- shouldn't we now be aware of the Light that dawns on someone who was thinking different? :sunny:

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:bounce:
We are leaky vessels, and must regularly check to see if 'what is written' is the way we're remembering.

Ps68:11 "The Lord gave the word: great was the company of those that published it".
Do you see this as female company in your version?

The OT times were verbal mostly, but they believed STRONGLY because they really SAW the miracles -- the iron float, the waters divide, etc. But now in NT is the 'hearing' and 'hearing' -- we are in 'famine' of hearing, and must Read what has been published. A type of Elijah first, and then Elisha -- running from Jezebel, and dunking Naaman. Elisha DID get the mantle from Elijah. Right?:thumb:


Pslams 68:12,

אֲדֹנָי יִתֶּן אֹמֶר הַמְבַשְּׂרוֹת צָבָא רָב, "Adonai yitten omer ham'bas'rot tsava rav" -- How to translate? You cannot rely on KJV!

http://biblehub.com/psalms/68-11.htm

http://www.chabad.org/library/bible_cdo/aid/16289#showrashi=true

The Lord will give out a word; they will announce it to a great multitude.

"ham'bas'rot" is from root "basar/bisseir", like also "b'sorah (tovah)" = (good) tidings, Greek "euangelion".

It is a fundamental (Christian) mistake that "euangelion" should be a book. It is after the wrong interpretation of Mark 1:1 (that it should denote the title of the book).

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The OT times were verbal mostly, but they believed STRONGLY because they really SAW the miracles -- the iron float, the waters divide, etc.

"The waters divide" is scriptural, not historical.

"water(s)" is a word, "mayim".

http://www.chabad.org/kabbalah/article_cdo/aid/380344/jewish/Four-Who-Entered-Paradise.htm


"When you come to the place of pure marble stones, do not say, 'Water! Water!' for it is said, 'He who speaks untruths shall not stand before My eyes' (Psalms 101:7)."

It must have something to do with that!

What?

Marble = "shesh" or "shayish"

"shesh" is also six ("six" being an Edenic, http://www.edenics.net/)

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OK Sylvie, most translations of Ps68:11 say it was 'Women' (but not the KJV).. -- anyway, the reason I agree with 'women' is because the OLD (first) Covenant emphasizes male, seeing, and Times of the Jews; but the New Covenant emphasizes the fruitful female, hearing & hearing, and Times of the Gentiles.

"Dividing" of the water in OT is followed by "Rightly dividing the Word" in NT, because the words are figuratively 'holy water'.. hah! Can't you just imagine the Atlantic with holes in it? :hysterical:

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OK Sylvie, most translations of Ps68:11 say it was 'Women' (but not the KJV).. -- anyway, the reason I agree with 'women' is because the OLD (first) Covenant emphasizes male, seeing, and Times of the Jews; but the New Covenant emphasizes the fruitful female, hearing & hearing, and Times of the Gentiles.

"Dividing" of the water in OT is followed by "Rightly dividing the Word" in NT, because the words are figuratively 'holy water'.. hah! Can't you just imagine the Atlantic with holes in it? :hysterical:

"mayim" is written "mem - yud - mem" -- so you might think it is "rightly divided" in the letter "yud", showing the name of the Lord "yud -hey-vav-hey", since the letter "vav" binds together the two letters "hey". "hey"= 5; 5+5= 10 = "yud"

This must be also why God is called a warrior, "ish milchamah", Exodus 15:3, The Lord is a warrior; the Lord is His Name.

Rashi:
His wars are not [waged] with weapons, but He wages battle with His Name


Note that "tsava" in Psalms 68:11 ( 68:12) can mean "army".

The Lord (Tetragrammaton) is also known as "hashem (elohei) tsevaot", the Lord of hosts, or armies.

http://www.synagoguechm.com/drashot/bmidbar_adonaitzvaot.pdf


The Hebrew word “Tzva’ot” translated to mean “hosts” or “armies” comes from the root
“tzava’”, which means, “that which goes forth, to fight, or to serve as an organized army or
people accomplishing a mission”.

John 18:36,

Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If my kingdom were of this world, my servants would have been fighting, that I might not be delivered over to the Jews. But my kingdom is not from the world.”

What might that mean? You think?

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Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If my kingdom were of this world, my servants would have been fighting, that I might not be delivered over to the Jews. But my kingdom is not from the world.”[/I]

What might that mean? You think? :yo: No problem for me, Sylvie, concerning a Kingdom of Jesus, though usually think of Kingdoms with respect to the Northern ten-tribe kingdom of Israel, and the Southern 2-tribe Kingdom of Judah. Consider them "Sister Kingdom's", per Jeremiah 3:8.

Not forgetting the other Kingdom's (Babylon, Egypt, Assyria).. And remembering that before Saul became the first King, the Israeli's were being led by Priests and Prophets, and it seemed that GOD didn't want them to have a king at all! :sEm_oops: