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luke1978

06-29-2012, 04:24 AM

luke1978

06-30-2012, 09:00 PM

I started this thread as an investigation to see if the God of the old testament who is never changing is good. So I'm putting down facts I find as I go.

OK in Joshua Chapter 3 vs 9-11

Extract:

Joshua said to the Israelites, “Come here and listen to the words of the Lord your God. 10 This is how you will know that the living God is among you and that he will certainly drive out before you the Canaanites, Hittites, Hivites, Perizzites, Girgashites, Amorites and Jebusites

End Extract:

Now please observe that there are 7 enemies(Canaanites, Hittites, Hivites, Perizzites, Girgashites, Amorites and Jebusites)

At this stage of the investigation I propose they are spiritual demons that we all have and have to overcome. This may explain what jesus said in Matthew Chapter 12 vs 43-45:

Extract:

43 “When an impure spirit comes out of a person, it goes through arid places seeking rest and does not find it. 44 Then it says, ‘I will return to the house I left.’ When it arrives, it finds the house unoccupied, swept clean and put in order. 45 Then it goes and takes with it seven other spirits more wicked than itself, and they go in and live there. And the final condition of that person is worse than the first. That is how it will be with this wicked generation.”

End Extract:

So I am starting my case by saying the Canaanites, Hittites, Hivites, Perizzites, Girgashites, Amorites and Jebusites represent 7 sinful natures of man. So in the rest of the biblical books they will be non-changing as spiritual obstacles.

Now looking at Joshua 6:

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Joshua+6&version=NIV

So Joshua Chapter 6 vs 12-20 no longer sounds violent or cruel:

Extract:

12 Joshua got up early the next morning and the priests took up the ark of the Lord. 13 The seven priests carrying the seven trumpets went forward, marching before the ark of the Lord and blowing the trumpets. The armed men went ahead of them and the rear guard followed the ark of the Lord, while the trumpets kept sounding. 14 So on the second day they marched around the city once and returned to the camp. They did this for six days.

15 On the seventh day, they got up at daybreak and marched around the city seven times in the same manner, except that on that day they circled the city seven times. 16 The seventh time around, when the priests sounded the trumpet blast, Joshua commanded the army, “Shout! For the Lord has given you the city! 17 The city and all that is in it are to be devoted[a] to the Lord. Only Rahab the prostitute and all who are with her in her house shall be spared, because she hid the spies we sent. 18 But keep away from the devoted things, so that you will not bring about your own destruction by taking any of them. Otherwise you will make the camp of Israel liable to destruction and bring trouble on it. 19 All the silver and gold and the articles of bronze and iron are sacred to the Lord and must go into his treasury.”

20 When the trumpets sounded, the army shouted, and at the sound of the trumpet, when the men gave a loud shout, the wall collapsed; so everyone charged straight in, and they took the city. 21 They devoted the city to the Lord and destroyed with the sword every living thing in it—men and women, young and old, cattle, sheep and donkeys.

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I will continue to show in this thread that man needs to make a 666 to 777 conversion. We were created on day 6(Evening, Morning and Day count = 666)

The bible hints all the way through about the number 7, 77 and 777. Of course nobody believes Lamech lived to be 777 or it's a coincidence there were 77 Generations between Adam and Jesus in one of the geneologies and 42 on the patriarch line(14+14+14) = 77 77 77

luke1978

07-01-2012, 05:40 PM

Now I will reveal where I heard about this 777 stuff:

http://www.mark7publishing.com/daniels-secret.htm

I have also read:

http://www.biblemaths.com/ (373 a proof set in stone)

and have just ordered:

http://www.amazon.com/Joshuas-Spiritual-Warfare-Lee-Simmons/dp/0981621309

OK the reason I'm doing this is I had a health scare 6 months ago. I am healthy and I'm not going to die but I had a suspected melanoma which turned out to be a Basil Cell Carcinoma. I had another one 3 months ago so I may just be paying for a life in the sun:lol:

But waiting for the results put the fear of death in me. So now I see every day as a day given to me by God to learn his word through the bible. maybe there are other paths to God but this is the one I am currently exploring as I have always been a christian but have not searched at this level before. If I can believe the whole bible is consistent and loving it will be a stumbling block removed.

luke1978

07-04-2012, 04:26 AM

I'm still waiting for my book on Joshua so I thought I might start explaining more of this 666 to 777 pathway.

OK we know the sun was made on the fourth day in Genesis 1 so the Evening, Morning and 1st Day sequence on day 1 has to be spiritual as you cannot have a day without a sun.

Man was made on Day 6. (Evening, Morning and Day 6) = 6 Evening's, 6 Morning's and 6 days all spiritual as we know that because it was spiritual before the sun was made on day 4 so we must keep the consistency.

OK day 7 mention's 7 a total of 3 times:

Extract:

Thus the heavens and the earth were completed in all their vast array.

2 By the seventh day God had finished the work he had been doing; so on the seventh day he rested from all his work.

3 Then God blessed the seventh day and made it holy, because on it he rested from all the work of creating that he had done.

End Extract:

So next time a scientist tell's you the biblical creation is a fairytale you can tell them it is a spiritual creation which can end the evolution vs creationism debate that Genesis 1 has been in the middle of. And we can stop calling Genesis a fairytale if we interpret it spiritually.

We can also end the flood debate. Did it literally happen? - If we interpret it spiritually we don't need to concern ourselves with that answer:

Genesis 7

New International Version (NIV)

7 The Lord then said to Noah, “Go into the ark, you and your whole family, because I have found you righteous in this generation. 2 Take with you seven pairs of every kind of clean animal, a male and its mate, and one pair of every kind of unclean animal, a male and its mate, 3 and also seven pairs of every kind of bird, male and female, to keep their various kinds alive throughout the earth. 4 Seven days from now I will send rain on the earth for forty days and forty nights, and I will wipe from the face of the earth every living creature I have made. ”

So again we see the 777 pattern. What does it mean?

1.The 7 day wait for the flood represent the flesh of Noah's family.
2.The 7 pairs of clean animal represent springs of living water(Baptism)
3.The 7 pairs of birds(clean) represent the cleansed spirit.

There are more 7's in this story of the flood. It should be called the flood of 7's. So symbolically when Jesus calls you(766) and you are baptised(776) the holy spirit leads you to God(777) as a cleansed spirit.

Obviously Noah was not a 666 or God would not have called him so that is why I use 766.

A couple of facts:

It is a fact the primary element in the chemistry of life on earth is carbon, and it's most common occurrence has the atomic image of(-6, 6, +6) or 666.

It is a fact the element nitrogen comprises 77.7 percent of the earth's atmosphere and has the atomic image of (-7, 7, +7) or 777.

Check this out:

http://www.666markbeast.com/

I'm not trying to say anybody is a literal number I'm just trying to prove the bible is not violent and maybe the spiritual meaning has been missed. If you get the spiritual meaning contradictions will be less of a concern especially when you learn the mathematically structure like the bible wheel etc or Pi in Gen1:1 and the "e constant" in John 1:1

God is outside time! - Amen

Richard Amiel McGough

07-04-2012, 10:28 AM

It is a fact the element nitrogen comprises 77.7 percent of the earth's atmosphere and has the atomic image of (-7, 7, +7) or 777.

Where did you get that number? The wiki says nitrogen comprises 78.09% of the earth's atmosphere. And this page gives the same answer:

http://www.physicalgeography.net/fundamentals/7a.html

Richard Amiel McGough

07-04-2012, 03:25 PM

I thought I'd start a thread as I am struggling with all the violence in the old testament. I've decided not to let it be a stumbling block and start learning it.

I have a strong foundation in the mathematics, symmetry and prophetic codes in the bible. I can trust the bible but I need to be able to defend the wording of the old testament. Even in some posts on this site today I sold out on the old testament.

OK the challenge to myself is to understand the meaning of the words and numbers in the old testament using Christ.

This post may even just be a diary of my daily findings.

Tonight(Australian Time) I found this:

http://www.adelaidenewchurch.org.au/documents/sermons/joshua/jos6a.html

You really have to listen to the audio part as the text is very brief. I no longer see the destruction of Jericho as a violent event but a spiritual one in the mind. Praise God I will sleep better tonight!

I have faith the old testament can make sense but I need to prove it to myself. Follow my journey if you like and especially if you are having issues as well. I want to remove any stumbling blocks between my mind and the word and numbers of God.
Hey there Luke,

I think you have chosen a very good project.

I too "have a strong foundation in the mathematics and symmetry" but I've never seen any believable "prophetic codes in the Bible." Two out of three is not bad. We have some things in common.

Your desire to "understand the meaning of the words and numbers in the old testament using Christ" is an approach with a long history. Martin Luther famously said (http://www.mtio.com/articles/bissar37.htm#15) "the whole Scripture is about Christ alone everywhere." So on the one hand, you are following in a very traditional Christian path. But on the other hand, you are going far outside the bounds of traditional Christianity. Case in point: the website you linked is a Swedenborgian church. His interpretations were entirely novel relative to the entire history of Christianity. Here's what they say on their home page (http://www.adelaidenewchurch.org.au/):

Welcome to The New Christian Church in Adelaide Online! We are a spiritually focussed community seeking to learn how to be more loving and understanding in our interactions with others. We believe that the Lord God is Jesus Christ who makes Himself known to us through His Word, found in the Bible and understood in the light of the spiritual teachings given through His servant Emanuel Swedenborg. We believe that the Lord is present with us in His Word and that through living from the principles found there we create the opportunity for the Lord to transform our lives into a living expression of His love. The goal of a truly spiritual life is to be led out of the hellish states of life created through our self centeredness into a heavenly life characterised by a joy for living, springing from a genuine concern for the spiritual well being of all people.
I tried reading a bit of Swedenborg's stuff but it never meant anything to me. It's so strange to read his bold proclamations about where the angels took him and what he saw and heard in heaven. I just couldn't believe any of it was real. Do you have an opinion about his writings?

Anyway, I think your project is great, even though I think the "spiritual" interpretation is probably meaningless because it's so private and idiosyncratic. There's no way to know if it is true. And even if it is, it is so different than the "plain meaning" of the text I think I would prefer just to make up my own religion out of whole cloth. But hey ... to each his own! I look forward to hearing of your discoveries as you journey.

All the best,

Richard

luke1978

07-04-2012, 03:49 PM

Hey there Luke,

I think you have chosen a very good project.

I too "have a strong foundation in the mathematics and symmetry" but I've never seen any believable "prophetic codes in the Bible." Two out of three is not bad. We have some things in common.

Your desire to "understand the meaning of the words and numbers in the old testament using Christ" is an approach with a long history. Martin Luther famously said (http://www.mtio.com/articles/bissar37.htm#15) "the whole Scripture is about Christ alone everywhere." So on the one hand, you are following in a very traditional Christian path. But on the other hand, you are going far outside the bounds of traditional Christianity. Case in point: the website you linked is a Swedenborgian church. His interpretations were entirely novel relative to the entire history of Christianity. Here's what they say on their home page (http://www.adelaidenewchurch.org.au/):

I tried reading a bit of Swedenborg's stuff but it never meant anything to me. It's so strange to read his bold proclamations about where the angels took him and what he saw and heard in heaven. I just couldn't believe any of it was real. Do you have an opinion about his writings?

Anyway, I think your project is great, even though I think the "spiritual" interpretation is probably meaningless because it's so private and idiosyncratic. There's no way to know if it is true. And even if it is, it is so different than the "plain meaning" of the text I think I would prefer just to make up my own religion out of whole cloth. But hey ... to each his own! I look forward to hearing of your discoveries as you journey.

All the best,

Richard

Hi Richard,

The answer about the 77.7 percent nitrogen in the atmosphere on the author's website(Daniel's Secret - Which led me on this 777 path) is: http://mark7publishing.com/genesis1windowblog/

Extract:

Your figure of 78.08% volume of nitrogen in the atmosphere is for standard temperature and pressure, but does not include the small amount of moisture that brings the number to 77.7%.

End Extract:

I will email the author and see if he has a scientific link or something so I can verify it a bit better for you and myself. I don't know much about Swedenborg except I figured if he could find a spiritual meaning I could too. I have only listened to the one sermon. To be honest I want to work it out one book at a time for myself. I know Swedenborg has made some bold proclamation's but I just try and discern what I can take seriously and what I will just disregard. I may link to a variety of sites but it may be just to point out that page and I by no means endorse any site that I link to in it's entirety or agree with all their views.

There is a way to know if the spiritual interpretation is true. Would 7 priests blowing trumpets to bring down the walls of Jericho seem more spiritual then real? - All these 7's must mean something or they wouldn't be there. I am quite satisfied the old testament is spiritual as well as prophetic. I will try and derive a straight forward meaning that is consistent throughout the book. I might have 7777 posts by the time I am finished!

jwfarq

07-06-2012, 04:25 PM

Where did you get that number? The wiki says nitrogen comprises 78.09% of the earth's atmosphere. And this page gives the same answer:

http://www.physicalgeography.net/fundamentals/7a.html

The Wiki states that Nitrogen is 78.08% of DRY air that does not include the normal presence of moisture. Moisture varies slightly in the atmosphere, enough to bring the % volume of nitrogen down to about 77.7%

Richard Amiel McGough

07-06-2012, 05:11 PM

The Wiki states that Nitrogen is 78.08% of DRY air that does not include the normal presence of moisture. Moisture varies slightly in the atmosphere, enough to bring the % volume of nitrogen down to about 77.7%
Where did you get that number? Is there any reason we should think it is accurate?

Such a precise number doesn't seem possible because the humidity will always be different from place to place so you would always get different percentages.

luke1978

07-07-2012, 03:21 AM

Richard Amiel McGough

07-07-2012, 11:38 AM

As Jesus is the key to the old testament I thought I'd put a link to a youtube video(30 minutes) so you can hear the gospel of Thomas(Anyone following this thread) - I'm not sure what to make of it but it is spiritual in nature and I think I understand many of the sayings:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exIiPeJUskw&feature=watch_response
Well, those are pretty mystical/gnostic sayings, so it's pretty easy to make them mean whatever you want.

What do you make of this saying:

Gospel of Thomas 114: Simon Peter says to them: "Let Mary go out from our midst, for women are not worthy of life!" Jesus says: "See, I will draw her so as to make her male so that she also may become a living spirit like you males. For every woman who has become male will enter the Kingdom of heaven."

jwfarq

07-08-2012, 08:43 AM

Where did you get that number? Is there any reason we should think it is accurate?

Such a precise number doesn't seem possible because the humidity will always be different from place to place so you would always get different percentages.

The number 77.7% of nitrogen in the atmosphere comes from the Bible's Creation on the 7th day when evening, morning, and day are counted 777.
The atomic image of nitrogen is 7 electrons, 7 neutrons, and 7 protons or just 777.

Therefore the creations count = 777 when God rested in atmospheric heaven,
the atomic image of Nitrogen = 777,
the volume of atmospheric heaven = 77.7% or by divine equivocation just 777. This is as it should be - Bible supports science just as science supports the Bible.

Of course on the 6th day carbon based humans were counted 666 from evening, morning, and day and created as RC666 Reason Creatures (the beast), where the atomic image of carbon is 6 electrons, 6 neutrons, and 6 protons. Numbers don’t lie because they can’t.

Therefore the numbers of creation for life on earth and heaven are 666 and 777.
If one does not know this, the Bible will never make sense, because ALL scripture is structured from the foundational Creation. A human beast must transform from 666 to 777.

It is true that there is variation of moisture in the atmosphere, and that is why the natural volume of nitrogen corrects from dry air measurement of 78.08 to about 77.7%. At the equator there is generally more moisture. Anyway 77.7% is good enough for biblical/science synchronization, unless someone can prove differently.

Richard Amiel McGough

07-08-2012, 10:03 AM

The number 77.7% of nitrogen in the atmosphere comes from the Bible's Creation on the 7th day when evening, morning, and day are counted 777.
The atomic image of nitrogen is 7 electrons, 7 neutrons, and 7 protons or just 777.

Therefore the creations count = 777 when God rested in atmospheric heaven,
the atomic image of Nitrogen = 777,
the volume of atmospheric heaven = 77.7% or by divine equivocation just 777. This is as it should be - Bible supports science just as science supports the Bible.

Of course on the 6th day carbon based humans were counted 666 from evening, morning, and day and created as RC666 Reason Creatures (the beast), where the atomic image of carbon is 6 electrons, 6 neutrons, and 6 protons. Numbers don’t lie because they can’t.

Therefore the numbers of creation for life on earth and heaven are 666 and 777.
If one does not know this, the Bible will never make sense, because ALL scripture is structured from the foundational Creation. A human beast must transform from 666 to 777.

It is true that there is variation of moisture in the atmosphere, and that is why the natural volume of nitrogen corrects from dry air measurement of 78.08 to about 77.7%. At the equator there is generally more moisture. Anyway 77.7% is good enough for biblical/science synchronization, unless someone can prove differently.
You still have not given any evidence that "the natural volume of nitrogen corrects from dry air measurement of 78.08 to about 77.7%" Could you please cite at least one scientific source that says the concentration of nitrogen is 77.7%? Just one?

Are you friends with Luke1978? He is making very similar assertions about transforming from 666 to 777.

Your assertion that "Numbers don’t lie because they can’t" is true. But that's because numbers can't make any statements at all, true or false. It is we humans who use numbers to "tell the truth" or to "lie." This knowledge is so common it is encapsulated in two famous statements:

1) Figures don't lie, but liars figure.

2) There are three kinds of lies: Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics.

The problem with all your number crunching is that you are merely choosing and picking numbers you like to tell the story that you invented. The numbers themselves do not tell the story. Case in point: The fact that carbon is the sixth element has absolutely nothing to do with the mark of the beast. Your story has nothing to do with the things said about the mark of the beast in Revelation. It speaks of people who are given the mark on their hand or forehead, so the mark is not "carbon" which is just an element in the periodic table.

You assertion that "Bible supports science just as science supports the Bible" makes no sense to me at all. The Bible was written by pre-scientific people and what little it says about scientific things is usually wrong.

luke1978

07-08-2012, 03:44 PM

Richard Amiel McGough

07-08-2012, 04:01 PM

Hi Richard,

jwfarq is the author of the book "Daniels Secret" and I emailed him and told him to join in on this forum if he likes. I never met him but his book has helped me tremendously. I have emailed you about your book but no reply so far.

regards

Luke1978

PS: I highly recommend the book and there is a link in this thread for it. Actually Richard I think you of all people would be very enlightened by it. Maybe you can buy each others book! - Do a swap...

I hope jwfarq keeps posting as I have only been studying for 6 months and to be honest Richard I cannot beat you in a debate. Yet :lol:
Hey there Luke,

Thanks for the info.

I hope you keep trying to "beat me" in debate. We'll both sharpen our swords, eh? :winking0071:

As fro jwfarq's arguments - I have a really hard time following his logic when he says that carbon is the mark of the beast because it has 6 protons, 6 neutrons, and 6 electrons. That simply makes no sense to me at all. If you would like to try to explain it to me, I'm game.

Great chatting!

Richard

luke1978

07-08-2012, 04:08 PM

Hey there Luke,

Thanks for the info.

I hope you keep trying to "beat me" in debate. We'll both sharpen our swords, eh? :winking0071:

As fro jwfarq's arguments - I have a really hard time following his logic when he says that carbon is the mark of the beast because it has 6 protons, 6 neutrons, and 6 electrons. That simply makes no sense to me at all. If you would like to try to explain it to me, I'm game.

Great chatting!

Richard

Hi Richard,

Yes I will keep trying to sharpen my sword(Which is knowledge of the word). I like debating with you as I have the same problems with the wording of the bible. I have felt like walking away from it but I can't because it has already proven so much to me(Symmetry, Mathematics, Prophecy). I just need to be able to defend the wording and find out what it is really saying. There are even a few things in the new testament that cause me some concern. I'm not going to give up. With the "Higgs Boson" they were saying they will either find it in 2012 or disprove it. I'm taking the same angle with the bible. People have written so much to prove the validity of the bible and that it is influenced by external forces outside time. Rather then I follow in those foot steps which in my eyes are proven I need to be at peace with the writing.

Carbon is 6 and Nitrogen is 7:

http://www.astro.virginia.edu/class/oconnell/astr121/im/periodic_table.gif

I'm still waiting on my spiritual warfare book which will help me with the book of Joshua. I see the 666/777 pattern in that book.

Richard Amiel McGough

07-08-2012, 04:36 PM

Hi Richard,

Yes I will keep trying to sharpen my sword(Which is knowledge of the word). I like debating with you as I have the same problems with the wording of the bible. I have felt like walking away from it but I can't because it has already proven so much to me(Symmetry, Mathematics, Prophecy). I just need to be able to defend the wording and find out what it is really saying. There are even a few things in the new testament that cause me some concern. I'm not going to give up. With the "Higgs Boson" they were saying they will either find it in 2012 or disprove it. I'm taking the same angle with the bible. People have written so much to prove the validity of the bible and that it is influenced by external forces outside time. Rather then I follow in those foot steps which in my eyes are proven I need to be at peace with the writing.

I agree that there is plenty of very solid evidence along the lines of symmetry (Bible Wheel) and mathematics (Holographs) but not much in the way of prophecy. The only prophecy that has any hope of being established upon the solid rock of verifiable evidence is the fulfillment of Daniel's prophecy about the killing of Messiah before the destruction of the Temple, but the irony is that almost all Christians reject that fulfillment because they have been taught Futurist eschatology! I've never seen any other prophecy that would convince a rational skeptic.

Carbon is 6 and Nitrogen is 7:

http://www.astro.virginia.edu/class/oconnell/astr121/im/periodic_table.gif

I'm still waiting on my spiritual warfare book which will help me with the book of Joshua. I see the 666/777 pattern in that book.
Yes, know the periodic table. But that doesn't help make sense out of the idea that carbon is the mark of the beast.

luke1978

07-08-2012, 05:54 PM

I agree that there is plenty of very solid evidence along the lines of symmetry (Bible Wheel) and mathematics (Holographs) but not much in the way of prophecy. The only prophecy that has any hope of being established upon the solid rock of verifiable evidence is the fulfillment of Daniel's prophecy about the killing of Messiah before the destruction of the Temple, but the irony is that almost all Christians reject that fulfillment because they have been taught Futurist eschatology! I've never seen any other prophecy that would convince a rational skeptic.

Yes, know the periodic table. But that doesn't help make sense out of the idea that carbon is the mark of the beast.

Well man is made of Carbon and Heaven(atmosphere) is made of nitrogen. I'm not saying it proves anything conclusively but it is interesting.

Put N66.6 E66.6(Type in selakhard) into Google Earth(Yes it is one of 4 places that is 66.6 in the world)

Also the co-ordinates of the long and latitude added together that run through the temple mount is 66.60(Yes there are 4 lines like this in the world but each is only 1km or so wide)

I'm not saying it proves anything. Just interesting.

luke1978

07-08-2012, 10:05 PM

Well man is made of Carbon and Heaven(atmosphere) is made of nitrogen. I'm not saying it proves anything conclusively but it is interesting.

Put N66.6 E66.6(Type in selakhard) into Google Earth(Yes it is one of 4 places that is 66.6 in the world)

Also the co-ordinates of the long and latitude added together that run through the temple mount is 66.60(Yes there are 4 lines like this in the world but each is only 1km or so wide)

I'm not saying it proves anything. Just interesting.

Just in regards to my last post I was having a bit of fun. The truth is I don't care to think about the end of the world which I was sort of implying by pointing out lat 66.6 and longitude 66.6 and the fact the lat and long of Jerusalem adds up to 66.60.

I will try and get this thread back on topic and that is more to do with the 666 to 777 conversion and the fact that I think the bible has to be interpreted spiritually. I realise now I am very at odds with Christian fundamentalists.

Yes God has to be just but if I were to be honest a literal reading of the old testament is horrifying. I will pray that the "real" God whatever he,she,it is will guide me to the truth. I am only so far a Christian as I believe in Jesus and that he is the way, truth and the life. I will admit until further notice the bible makes no sense to me. Much of what Jesus said does make sense but there are a few sayings I'm not sure about. I have seen enough evidence that he did fulfill prophecy which is why I cannot reject him. I guess I can always just love the "real" God with all my heart and soul and treat people the way I want to be treated.

I trust there is some sort of force that has me here for a reason and the 666 to 777 conversion seems like it may be a key to unveiling the true nature of God amongst writings of Bronze age people!

luke1978

07-13-2012, 09:15 PM

Has anyone ever thought about this part of the genealogy in Genesis:

Extract:

Genesis 5
New International Version (NIV)

From Adam to Noah
5 This is the written account of Adam’s family line.
When God created mankind, he made them in the likeness of God. 2 He created them male and female and blessed them. And he named them “Mankind” when they were created.

3 When Adam had lived 130 years, he had a son in his own likeness, in his own image; and he named him Seth. 4 After Seth was born, Adam lived 800 years and had other sons and daughters. 5 Altogether, Adam lived a total of 930 years, and then he died.

End Extract:

Now Jesus was born from a virgin 77 generations from God(God = 1, In between = 75, Jesus(God in flesh) =1)

Adam I believe means "man"

So our creator is Adam which is why we are called "son of man" possibly in my opinion. Maybe the sin of Adam is more then just eating from the tree of knowledge. Maybe he used that knowledge to genetically engineer flesh and blood?

This has implications:

Extract:

John 8:44
New International Version (NIV)

44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

End Extract:

Can ayone shed any light on this question I have? - I'm not stating it as a fact but I'm just interested in the difference between being created in the likeness of Adam vs God?

This may add credibility to the 666(Adam) to 777(God image) transformation?

Also:

Extract:

The Parable of the Weeds

24 Jesus told them another parable: “The kingdom of heaven is like a man who sowed good seed in his field. 25 But while everyone was sleeping, his enemy came and sowed weeds among the wheat, and went away. 26 When the wheat sprouted and formed heads, then the weeds also appeared.

27 “The owner’s servants came to him and said, ‘Sir, didn’t you sow good seed in your field? Where then did the weeds come from?’

28 “‘An enemy did this,’ he replied.

“The servants asked him, ‘Do you want us to go and pull them up?’

29 “‘No,’ he answered, ‘because while you are pulling the weeds, you may uproot the wheat with them. 30 Let both grow together until the harvest. At that time I will tell the harvesters: First collect the weeds and tie them in bundles to be burned; then gather the wheat and bring it into my barn.’”

End Extract:

Did Adam plant the weeds?