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culi26
06-27-2012, 10:08 AM
Fingerprints

75:3 Does man think that WE Cannot assemble his bones?
75:4 Nay, WE are able to put Together in perfect order The very tips of his fingers."

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Unbelievers argue regarding resurrection taking place after bones of dead people have disintegrated in the earth and how each individual would be identified on the Day of Judgement. ALMIGHTY ALLAH answers that HE can not only assemble our bones but can also reconstruct perfectly our very fingertips. Why does the QUR'AN, while speaking about determination of the identity of the individual, speak specifically about fingertips?
In 1880, fingerprinting became the scientific method of identification, after research done by Sir Francis Golt. No two persons in the world can ever have exactly the same fingerprint pattern. That is the reason why police forces worldwide use fingerprints to identify the criminal. 1400 years ago who could have known the uniqueness of each human's fingerprint? Surely it could have been none other than the CREATOR HIMSELF!


PAIN RECEPTORS PRESENT IN THE SKIN

It was thought that the sense of feeling and pain was only dependent on the brain. Recent discoveries prove that there are pain receptors present in the skin without which a person would not be able to feel pain. When a doctor examines a patient suffering from burn injuries, he verifies the degree of burns by a pinprick. If the patient feels pain, the doctor is happy, because it indicates that the burns are superficial and the pain receptors are intact. On the other hand if the patient does not feel any pain, it indicates that it is a deep burn and the pain receptors have been destroyed. The QUR'AN gives an indication of the existence of pain receptors in the following verse:

4:56 "Those who reject OUR signs, WE shall soon Cast into the Fire; As often as their skins Are roasted through, WE shall change them For fresh skins, That they may taste The Penalty: for Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise."

Richard Amiel McGough
06-27-2012, 02:25 PM
Fingerprints

75:3 Does man think that WE Cannot assemble his bones?
75:4 Nay, WE are able to put Together in perfect order The very tips of his fingers."

500

Unbelievers argue regarding resurrection taking place after bones of dead people have disintegrated in the earth and how each individual would be identified on the Day of Judgement. ALMIGHTY ALLAH answers that HE can not only assemble our bones but can also reconstruct perfectly our very fingertips. Why does the QUR'AN, while speaking about determination of the identity of the individual, speak specifically about fingertips?
In 1880, fingerprinting became the scientific method of identification, after research done by Sir Francis Golt. No two persons in the world can ever have exactly the same fingerprint pattern. That is the reason why police forces worldwide use fingerprints to identify the criminal. 1400 years ago who could have known the uniqueness of each human's fingerprint? Surely it could have been none other than the CREATOR HIMSELF!


PAIN RECEPTORS PRESENT IN THE SKIN

It was thought that the sense of feeling and pain was only dependent on the brain. Recent discoveries prove that there are pain receptors present in the skin without which a person would not be able to feel pain. When a doctor examines a patient suffering from burn injuries, he verifies the degree of burns by a pinprick. If the patient feels pain, the doctor is happy, because it indicates that the burns are superficial and the pain receptors are intact. On the other hand if the patient does not feel any pain, it indicates that it is a deep burn and the pain receptors have been destroyed. The QUR'AN gives an indication of the existence of pain receptors in the following verse:

4:56 "Those who reject OUR signs, WE shall soon Cast into the Fire; As often as their skins Are roasted through, WE shall change them For fresh skins, That they may taste The Penalty: for Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise."
Two points:

1) People have always been able to feel pain in their skin. It is a phenomenological fact that has always been common knowledge to all people. And it is common knowledge that burned skin loses feeling. The verse you cite has absolutely nothing to do with the sciences of physiology and neurology. I cannot imagine anyone accepting this argument as "proof" of supernatural knowledge of science in the Quran. And worse, it makes your faith look exceedingly foolish if you think to justify it with such obviously fallacious arguments.

2) The verse you presented makes Allah look like a monstrous demon that enjoys roasting people, and uses his supernatural powers to make the suffer again even after their skin has been burned off. This implies that Allah cannot be God, for God is good, and it is evil to roast people forever and deliberately cause them such pain.

culi26
06-28-2012, 08:47 AM
Two points:

1) People have always been able to feel pain in their skin.

You have just made an scientific discovery of the HOT WATER !!


And it is common knowledge that burned skin loses feeling.

Since when??!! Can you prove it?! And please do not mention ancient greece??!!

Miracle of the verse is precisely this:

As often as their skins are roasted through, We shall change them for fresh skins, that they may taste the chastisement, indicating knowledge about the nerve endings in the skin.


2) The verse you presented makes Allah look like a monstrous demon that enjoys roasting people, and uses his supernatural powers to make the suffer again even after their skin has been burned off. This implies that Allah cannot be God, for God is good, and it is evil to roast people forever and deliberately cause them such pain.

Be careful when you took about The God(Allah), and by the way if you don't believe that is your own business. OK?

The God is very good, but this is going to happen to all of them who reject His signs and worship something else beside Him.
Those who make mischief in the land deserve to taste the punishment!! Whoever they are, Muslims or non-Muslims!!

The hellfire is not made for vacation!!!

And the miracle was about the fingerprints, but I do not see any counter-argument from you.
While the second was only a warning for arrogant people!

Richard Amiel McGough
06-28-2012, 12:00 PM
You have just made an scientific discovery of the HOT WATER !!

Yes, and that's about as impressive as the evidence you have given for supernatural knowledge in the Quran.



Since when??!! Can you prove it?! And please do not mention ancient greece??!!

Don't need to "prove it" because it is part of everyone's common experience.



Miracle of the verse is precisely this:

As often as their skins are roasted through, We shall change them for fresh skins, that they may taste the chastisement, indicating knowledge about the nerve endings in the skin.

There is no "miracle" of any kind in that verse. Everyone already knew that the skin is particularly sensitive to pain and that's why the verse was written. Great pain can also be felt in the inner organs, not just skin. Just imagine having your bowels pulled out. I can assure you it would hurt.

That verse proves absolutely nothing about any supernatural knowledge. Your arguments would not convince anyone if they have basic intelligence. They are absurd. Sorry.




2) The verse you presented makes Allah look like a monstrous demon that enjoys roasting people, and uses his supernatural powers to make the suffer again even after their skin has been burned off. This implies that Allah cannot be God, for God is good, and it is evil to roast people forever and deliberately cause them such pain.
Be careful when you took about The God(Allah), and by the way if you don't believe that is your own business. OK?

If you want me to be "careful" when I talk about Allah, then maybe you could give me an example by being "careful" when you talk about Yahweh. You have said some very rude things about him, like when you said "maybe he forgot" as if he were an idiot. Of course, I don't care how anyone talks about any god, but if you are going to get all "sensitive" about how folks talks about Allah, you will have to show the same respect for their gods. Otherwise, you will be a hypocrite.



The God is very good, but this is going to happen to all of them who reject His signs and worship something else beside Him.
Those who make mischief in the land deserve to taste the punishment!! Whoever they are, Muslims or non-Muslims!!

The hellfire is not made for vacation!!!

The Quran presents Allah as a monstrous demon. There's no other way to say it. Imagine if you were in that hell-fire for ever and ever and ever with ALLAH burning your skin off and then replacing it so you could suffer fresh pain continuously for eternity. That is a doctrine of demons. It is pure evil. I have the same complaint about the God of the Bible. The only difference is that the God of the Bible was not quite so explicit about how he was going to torment his victims.



And the miracle was about the fingerprints, but I do not see any counter-argument from you.
While the second was only a warning for arrogant people!
I didn't present a "counter-argument" because you didn't present an argument for me to counter! You merely asserted that a mention of "finger tips" in the Quran proved Allah wrote it. Your assertion is simply absurd. It proves nothing. If you can't see this on your own, I'm pretty sure no amount of explanation will help.