The Cult of Human Sacrifice

[Rose]

Judaism was almost founded on human sacrifice…if Yahweh hadn’t changed his mind at the last minute Isaac would have been sacrificed instead of the ram. The same however cannot be said for Christianity, because its foundation rests solely upon human sacrifice. The cult of Christianity began as a schism, that is to say a division that broke off from Judaism…what set it apart is that the sacrifice of a sinless human instead of sinless animals would ultimately end the need for blood atonement that Judaism required.

Most people focus so much on the idea of Jesus dying for their sins and then being resurrected that the human sacrifice aspect of Christianity is obscured, but the fact of the matter is when a person’s life is given to appease a god it is called Human Sacrifice, and that is exactly what happened with the sacrifice of Jesus. This sacrifice of Jesus is no different than the sacrificing of children to Molech recorded in the Old Testament by pagans; both are done to appease an angry god in need of blood atonement.

Rose

[duxrow]

:)HiRose,
The story of "the ram in the bush" is a type of what Jesus has done for us --
and the "offering of Isaac" a precept of God's offering to mankind.

He's the potter - we're the clay - and only HE knows what happens to them when they leave their bodies. He didn't admit to being a Spirituntil John 4:24, and WE probably weren't aware of being "Spirit, Soul, and Body" until 1Thes5:23. We're a Trinity! The 'body' may go to sheol, may go to Tallahasee; but it's the Spirit and Soul that counts.

[Richard Amiel McGough]

:)HiRose,
The story of "the ram in the bush" is a type of what Jesus has done for us --
and the "offering of Isaac" a precept of God's offering to mankind.

He's the potter - we're the clay - and only HE knows what happens to them when they leave their bodies. He didn't admit to being a Spirituntil John 4:24, and WE probably weren't aware of being "Spirit, Soul, and Body" until 1Thes5:23. We're a Trinity! The 'body' may go to sheol, may go to Tallahasee; but it's the Spirit and Soul that counts.
It's not correct to say that we are a "Trinity" just because we have a body, soul, and spirit. How do those three things correspond to the Father, Son, and Spirit? If we tried to link them together, then the "spirit" must be the Spirit, and so the Father or the Son must be the body! What would that even mean? Comparing the Trinity with random threesomes found in nature is absurd and unbiblical.

[duxrow]

It's not correct to say that we are a "Trinity" just because we have a body, soul, and spirit. How do those three things correspond to the Father, Son, and Spirit? If we tried to link them together, then the "spirit" must be the Spirit, and so the Father or the Son must be the body! What would that even mean? Comparing the Trinity with random threesomes found in nature is absurd and unbiblical.

Unbiblical? Ha. But maybe it should be "Triune". Anyway, I'm big on example, patterns, types, etc.

Heb:8:5: Who serve unto the example and shadow of heavenly things, as Moses was admonished of God when he was about to make the tabernacle: for, See, saith he, that thou make all things according to the pattern shewed to thee in the mount.

First the blade, then the ear, then the full-corn in the ear. :arghh:

[Richard Amiel McGough]

Unbiblical? Ha. But maybe it should be "Triune". Anyway, I'm big on example, patterns, types, etc.

Heb:8:5: Who serve unto the example and shadow of heavenly things, as Moses was admonished of God when he was about to make the tabernacle: for, See, saith he, that thou make all things according to the pattern shewed to thee in the mount.

It doesn't seem you understood my comment. The body, soul, and spirit do not compare to God in any way. They are not a "type" or a "shadow" of the Trinity.

I say "unbiblical" because the Bible plainly states that God cannot be compared to the things that are created:

Isaiah 40:18 To whom then will ye liken God? or what likeness will ye compare unto him? 19 The workman melteth a graven image, and the goldsmith spreadeth it over with gold, and casteth silver chains.

Paul made a big deal out of this in Romans 1:

Romans 1:23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

You have compared God to the "image" of people as a trinity of body, soul, and spirit. That is an error.




First the blade, then the ear, then the full-corn in the ear. :arghh:

There is no need to shout. If I have said something inaccurate, you should simply point out my error.

[Richard Amiel McGough]

:)HiRose,
The story of "the ram in the bush" is a type of what Jesus has done for us --
and the "offering of Isaac" a precept of God's offering to mankind.

He's the potter - we're the clay - and only HE knows what happens to them when they leave their bodies.
Getting back to the topic of this thread - yes, the human sacrifice of Isaac was a "type" of the human sacrifice of Jesus. That seems pretty obvious. Therefore, it seems Rose's comment in her OP is confirmed.

[Rose]

:)HiRose,
The story of "the ram in the bush" is a type of what Jesus has done for us --
and the "offering of Isaac" a precept of God's offering to mankind.

He's the potter - we're the clay - and only HE knows what happens to them when they leave their bodies. He didn't admit to being a Spirituntil John 4:24, and WE probably weren't aware of being "Spirit, Soul, and Body" until 1Thes5:23. We're a Trinity! The 'body' may go to sheol, may go to Tallahasee; but it's the Spirit and Soul that counts.

Hi Duxrow,

What does that have to do with the point I brought up about Christianity being a cult of human sacrifice, because it founder "Jesus", gave his life as a sacrifice to appease an angry god?

Rose

[duxrow]

Romans 1:23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

You have compared God to the "image" of people as a trinity of body, soul, and spirit. That is an error.

There is no need to shout. If I have said something inaccurate, you should simply point out my error.

:lol: Haha. Didn't see it 'shouting' -- thought "choking on stuffed words (Word Stuffing)". When Genesis said we were created in God's image we thought he looked like us, but an old man with long beard; until John4 brought in the Spirit God and we had to change our thinking so we'd look like Him! with long imagination..

Many patterns in the WORD, and the 'three' (whatever) are a challenge; like the Way, Truth, and Life. :catfight:
(can't always find just the right smiley, but fun trying, Thanks)

[duxrow]

Hi Duxrow,

What does that have to do with the point I brought up about Christianity being a cult of human sacrifice, because it founder "Jesus", gave his life as a sacrifice to appease an angry god?

Rose

Hi Rose, :rolleyes: Cult or Sect; except He had inculcated our Confounded Language, we wouldn't have His Word to rely on. And he's not dead -- he's alive forever more, amen, altho I'll admit to wondering why He planted the Sect Seed where the loonies could get a hold of it. However, he's a husbandman and planted seed in Genesis and reaped a harvest in Revelation -- now I'm wondering how much spoiled or rotten fruit will be harvested. hmm? :Investigate:

[CWH]

Hi Duxrow,

What does that have to do with the point I brought up about Christianity being a cult of human sacrifice, because it founder "Jesus", gave his life as a sacrifice to appease an angry god?

Rose

I don't see Jesus sacrifice to appease an angry God but as an heroic act to save sinners. I see sacrifice as heroic; if someone sacrifice his life to save a child from accident, is he a hero? Obviously yes. If a soldier died while fighting to save his country, is he a hero? Yes. Sacrifice means Love. I am sure unselfish sacrifice for love or to save someone will be rewarded in heaven. Let's appreciate Christ's death on the cross.:pray:

John 15:12 My command is this: Love each other as I have loved you. 13 Greater love has no one than this: to lay down one’s life for one’s friends. 14 You are my friends if you do what I command.

Animal sacrifice such as killing a calf means love towards the one that you honored. It may looked cruel to the animal but it doesn't make much difference as the animal will be killed anyway sooner or later for food. The animal that was sacrificed is a hero and is thus pardoned. It serves as a witness of your love to the one you honored and as a witness to the covenant between man and God.

Would you sacrifice your life for the love of Christ?

Thanks Lord for dying on the cross. :pray:

[Rose]

]I don't see Jesus sacrifice to appease an angry God but as an heroic act to save sinners.[/COLOR] I see sacrifice as heroic; if someone sacrifice his life to save a child from accident, is he a hero? Obviously yes. If a soldier died while fighting to save his country, is he a hero? Yes. Sacrifice means Love. I am sure unselfish sacrifice for love or to save someone will be rewarded in heaven. Let's appreciate Christ's death on the cross.:pray:

John 15:12 My command is this: Love each other as I have loved you. 13 Greater love has no one than this: to lay down one’s life for one’s friends. 14 You are my friends if you do what I command.

Animal sacrifice such as killing a calf means love towards the one that you honored. It may looked cruel to the animal but it doesn't make much difference as the animal will be killed anyway sooner or later for food. The animal that was sacrificed is a hero and is thus pardoned. It serves as a witness of your love to the one you honored and as a witness to the covenant between man and God.

Would you sacrifice your life for the love of Christ?

Thanks Lord for dying on the cross. :pray:

No matter how you see the sacrifice of Jesus, it still remains a fact that his death was a human sacrifice, thus making Christianity a religion founded on human sacrifice.

No, I would not sacrifice my life for the love of Christ, because I see no point in sacrificing myself for something that I believe to be false.

Rose

[CWH]

No matter how you see the sacrifice of Jesus, it still remains a fact that his death was a human sacrifice, thus making Christianity a religion founded on human sacrifice.

No, I would not sacrifice my life for the love of Christ, because I see no point in sacrificing myself for something that I believe to be false.

Rose

Do you know that there are still human sacrifices in this world? Soldiers sacrifice their life for the nations, people died whilst saving others from disasters such as the tsunami, earthquakes World Trade Centre, etc. Those were heroes and they will be rewarded for their sacrifice.

If you think sacrifice your life for Christ is not worth it, then why do you think sacrifice your life to save someone's life is worth it?

God Blessed. :pray:

[Rose]

Do you know that there are still human sacrifices in this world? Soldiers sacrifice their life for the nations, people died whilst saving others from disasters such as the tsunami, earthquakes World Trade Centre, etc. Those were heroes and they will be rewarded for their sacrifice.

If you think sacrifice your life for Christ is not worth it, then why do you think sacrifice your life to save someone's life is worth it?

God Blessed. :pray:

Jesus was born to give his life as a human sacrifice, which is quite different than a soldier who happens to give his life for his country. A soldier doesn't go to war knowing he is going to die, in fact no soldier wants to die in war.

The reason I wouldn't give my life for Christ is because I don't think he was the son of god, so there is no reason to sacrifice my life for a myth.

Rose

[David M]

Jesus was born to give his life as a human sacrifice, which is quite different than a soldier who happens to give his life for his country. A soldier doesn't go to war knowing he is going to die, in fact no soldier wants to die in war.

The reason I wouldn't give my life for Christ is because I don't think he was the son of god, so there is no reason to sacrifice my life for a myth.

Rose

In fact, Jesus did not want to die. He was no different to anyone else in that respect. Why do you think he spent the night in prayer sweating drops of blood agonizing over what was to befall him and asking His Heavenly Father if that cup could pass from him? It was only because He knew he had to do God's will and that it was for the benefit of mankind that he submitted himself to God's will.

Hebrews 12:2 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.

It was that joy for him and the joy that could be yours (if only you could believe) that Jesus laid down his life. As the cliché goes, "there is no gain without pain". The gain of the new life in the Kingdom of God on earth will be worth all the pain in this life, so long as we endure to the end and believe.

All the best.

David

[Silence]

The way Jesus' death is viewed by us varies according to our view on the nature of the atonement. One view says that God is angry over sin, and yet loves sinners so much, that He sent His Son to take the punishment that sinners deserve. Another view says that God loves sinful and blind humanity so much that He sent Jesus to them, both the Father and Son knowing ahead of time that He would be blamed and condemned to death by an unjust system that those He was sent to save were blind to and held in bondage to. In other words, ever since the fall, mankind was trapped in a "human sacrifice" mindset, in which certain people, or groups of people, would unjustly be deemed responsible for any evil conditions arising among the group (they would be "scapegoated") and would then be condemned to capital punishment. Rene Girard's mimetic theory of desire postulates that those who are held responsible in this kind of scenario are actually no more guilty than any of the others, it is just that they happened to stand out as different enough from the group to be singled out for blame, but connected enough to the group to be held responsible for having an effect on it. Those who aren't included in the "guilty" group are blind to the selfishness and striving of their own that has contributed to the tension. Anyone who tries to spread the blame around and have everyone take responsibility will be lumped in with the scapegoats and silenced along with them. This is probably why the Pharisees and religious leaders refused to come to John for baptism.

With this kind of system working, there was no way for Jesus to come and free man from it without being set up as a target for it's workings. A scapegoating system cannot tolerate anyone who questions the guilt of the scapegoat or the "innocence" of those who have condemned the scapegoat. The only way for Jesus to save us from this system was to willingly become one of it's victims, but in such a way that it would be apparent afterward that He was innocent. Those who hold this view of the atonement see the unjust "scapegoating sacrificial system" as being "the sin of the world" that Jesus died to take away.

I haven't done enough study to discredit any of the atonement theories, and from what I have read, there are scriptural arguments that can be made for both of those mentioned in this post as well as others. It seems that the conclusions you reach all depend on what perspective of God you have to start with. I guess one litmus test would be something Jesus said - "Every tree is known by it's fruit". But then again, there will be arguments about what constitutes "good fruit" and over why or why not the fruit is good or evil.

[Rose]

In fact, Jesus did not want to die. He was no different to anyone else in that respect. Why do you think he spent the night in prayer sweating drops of blood agonizing over what was to befall him and asking His Heavenly Father if that cup could pass from him? It was only because He knew he had to do God's will and that it was for the benefit of mankind that he submitted himself to God's will.

Hebrews 12:2 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.

It was that joy for him and the joy that could be yours (if only you could believe) that Jesus laid down his life. As the cliché goes, "there is no gain without pain". The gain of the new life in the Kingdom of God on earth will be worth all the pain in this life, so long as we endure to the end and believe.

All the best.

David

The fact remains that God required a human life to atone for sin and Jesus willingly gave up his human life to appease God, therefore Jesus gave his life as a human sacrifice.

Rose

[Rose]

The way Jesus' death is viewed by us varies according to our view on the nature of the atonement. One view says that God is angry over sin, and yet loves sinners so much, that He sent His Son to take the punishment that sinners deserve. Another view says that God loves sinful and blind humanity so much that He sent Jesus to them, both the Father and Son knowing ahead of time that He would be blamed and condemned to death by an unjust system that those He was sent to save were blind to and held in bondage to. In other words, ever since the fall, mankind was trapped in a "human sacrifice" mindset, in which certain people, or groups of people, would unjustly be deemed responsible for any evil conditions arising among the group (they would be "scapegoated") and would then be condemned to capital punishment. Rene Girard's mimetic theory of desire postulates that those who are held responsible in this kind of scenario are actually no more guilty than any of the others, it is just that they happened to stand out as different enough from the group to be singled out for blame, but connected enough to the group to be held responsible for having an effect on it. Those who aren't included in the "guilty" group are blind to the selfishness and striving of their own that has contributed to the tension. Anyone who tries to spread the blame around and have everyone take responsibility will be lumped in with the scapegoats and silenced along with them. This is probably why the Pharisees and religious leaders refused to come to John for baptism.

With this kind of system working, there was no way for Jesus to come and free man from it without being set up as a target for it's workings. A scapegoating system cannot tolerate anyone who questions the guilt of the scapegoat or the "innocence" of those who have condemned the scapegoat. The only way for Jesus to save us from this system was to willingly become one of it's victims, but in such a way that it would be apparent afterward that He was innocent. Those who hold this view of the atonement see the unjust "scapegoating sacrificial system" as being "the sin of the world" that Jesus died to take away.

I haven't done enough study to discredit any of the atonement theories, and from what I have read, there are scriptural arguments that can be made for both of those mentioned in this post as well as others. It seems that the conclusions you reach all depend on what perspective of God you have to start with. I guess one litmus test would be something Jesus said - "Every tree is known by it's fruit". But then again, there will be arguments about what constitutes "good fruit" and over why or why not the fruit is good or evil.

Hi Silence,

Ever since the dawn of man people have done human sacrifice, and they continued to do human sacrifice long after Jesus gave his life to appease a god angry over the sinfulness of man. The main point I'm trying to make is that the human mindset that believes a life needs to be given to atone for sin was common to many belief systems, showing that Christianity was just one among many holding to that idea. Fortunately Christianity stopped with one human sacrifice.

All the best,
Rose

[CWH]

The fact remains that God required a human life to atone for sin and Jesus willingly gave up his human life to appease God, therefore Jesus gave his life as a human sacrifice.

Rose

The fact remains that Jesus sacrifice on the cross is not sacrifice as per se. What human sacrifice is that if a man died after saving mankind from sin and came back alive after 3 days? It is likened to a man who died after saving a child from accident just to be revived back to life again after a successful resuscitation. Do you consider that as sacrifice own life to save others? Jesus sacrifice on the cross is symbolic not only of saving sinners but of God's ability to conquer death, "Death, where is thy sting?". It has nothing to do with appeasing an angry God.

Thanks Lord for dying as a ransom for many. :pray:

[Rose]

The fact remains that Jesus sacrifice on the cross is not sacrifice as per se. What human sacrifice is that if a man died after saving mankind from sin and came back alive after 3 days? It is likened to a man who died after saving a child from accident just to be revived back to life again after a successful resuscitation. Do you consider that as sacrifice own life to save others? Jesus sacrifice on the cross is symbolic not only of saving sinners but of God's ability to conquer death, "Death, where is thy sting?". It has nothing to do with appeasing an angry God.

Thanks Lord for dying as a ransom for many. :pray:

Of course it does! All through the Old and New Testaments God is portrayed as a vengeful, wrathful God who hates sin and the only way he knows how to deal with his anger is to kill animals and humans. An all powerful god should be able to come up with a better solution to sin than killing animals and humans...if I had that kind of power I know I could.

One very simple solution that god could have implemented before the flood when he saw that wickedness was increasing on earth, would have been to shut up all the wombs so no more children could be born, then he could have started over again. :winking0071:

Rose

[Brother Les]

No matter how you see the sacrifice of Jesus, it still remains a fact that his death was a human sacrifice, thus making Christianity a religion founded on human sacrifice.


Christianity was founded by Abraham. There is no break from Abraham to the present of the 'called out ones'. The 'sacrifice' of Jesus was not to start the New Covenant Marriage. It was to end the Old Covenant. The NC did not start until Pentecost, weeks after The Cross.

[Richard Amiel McGough]

One very simple solution that god could have implemented before the flood when he saw that wickedness was increasing on earth, would have been to shut up all the wombs so no more children could be born, then he could have started over again. :winking0071:

Rose
That's a BRILLIANT answer. Christians are so trapped in their dogma that everything said of God in the Bible is true that they can't even use consistent logic. The Bible is perfectly clear that it is God who causes women to be fertile. He opens and closes their wombs. So why did God create babies in the wombs of all the Canaanites and other people knowing that he would then have to brutalize his people by commanding them to chop up those very babies? That makes God look pretty stupid if you ask me.

[Rose]

Christianity was founded by Abraham. There is no break from Abraham to the present of the 'called out ones'. The 'sacrifice' of Jesus was not to start the New Covenant Marriage. It was to end the Old Covenant. The NC did not start until Pentecost, weeks after The Cross.

Yes, Christianity has Abrahamic roots, but it is still a schism created from Judaism, and unlike Judaism its beginnings rest upon human sacrific. Judaism is still the original root from which Christianity branched off of, so my statement that Christianity is a cult of human sacrifice remains valid.

Rose

[Brother Les]

Yes, Christianity has Abrahamic roots, but it is still a schism created from Judaism, and unlike Judaism its beginnings rest upon human sacrific. Judaism is still the original root from which Christianity branched off of, so my statement that Christianity is a cult of human sacrifice remains valid.

Rose

Are you sure that christianity is the 'branch off'? I look at it as the religion of the jews is the off shoot from Abraham by taking the pagaen practices that Abraham came away from. Abrahams sons of Darkness went back to Abrahams old roots, but His sons of light went forward to YHWH, as their creator. The 'religion of Moses' had no name, much less being call 'judaism'.

[Richard Amiel McGough]

Are you sure that christianity is the 'branch off'? I look at it as the religion of the jews is the off shoot from Abraham by taking the pagaen practices that Abraham came away from. Abrahams sons of Darkness went back to Abrahams old roots, but His sons of light went forward to YHWH, as their creator. The 'religion of Moses' had no name, much less being call 'judaism'.
If that's true, the what is the status of the book that the Jews produced which they call the Tanakh and which we know of as the OT? Is it the word of God? Or was it produced by the "sons of darkness"? And how would we know?

[CWH]

Of course it does! All through the Old and New Testaments God is portrayed as a vengeful, wrathful God who hates sin and the only way he knows how to deal with his anger is to kill animals and humans. An all powerful god should be able to come up with a better solution to sin than killing animals and humans...if I had that kind of power I know I could.

One very simple solution that god could have implemented before the flood when he saw that wickedness was increasing on earth, would have been to shut up all the wombs so no more children could be born, then he could have started over again. :winking0071:

Rose

You are very clever in avoiding my questions not only in this thread but in others also. This shows you are not interested in reasoning.

Please answer my question:

What human sacrifice is that if a man died after saving mankind from sin and came back alive after 3 days?

Ahhh....forget it, your typical answer to avoid questions is "the Bible is a myth, why should I believe it..... Jesus death on the cross is a myth".


May God Blessed all of us.:pray:

[Richard Amiel McGough]

You are very clever in avoiding my questions not only in this thread but in others also. This shows you are not interested in reasoning.

Please answer my question:

What human sacrifice is that if a man died after saving mankind from sin and came back alive after 3 days?

Ahhh....forget it, your typical answer to avoid questions is "the Bible is a myth, why should I believe it..... Jesus death on the cross is a myth".


May God Blessed all of us.:pray:
Contrary to your assertion, Rose is very good at answering your questions. And when she or I answer you and show that you were wrong, you just ignore what we say.

Now as for your question: A human sacrifice remains a human sacrifice regardless if the victim rises after three days.

Your question is mere word play. You are not dealing with the real issue which is that the sacrifice of Jesus is a human sacrifice.

[CWH]

Of course it does! All through the Old and New Testaments God is portrayed as a vengeful, wrathful God who hates sin and the only way he knows how to deal with his anger is to kill animals and humans. An all powerful god should be able to come up with a better solution to sin than killing animals and humans...if I had that kind of power I know I could.

One very simple solution that god could have implemented before the flood when he saw that wickedness was increasing on earth, would have been to shut up all the wombs so no more children could be born, then he could have started over again. :winking0071:

Rose
That is the Stupidiest answer I ever come across. Were people forced to go hysterectomy or penilectomy because of sexual crime?....sounds cruel and atrocious! Will that stop them from sexual immorality by other means?...Might as well permanently closed the mouth and anus and remove the breasts! Shutting up the womb will not stop people from reproducing, you do not know what these "sons of God" or the power of Satan could do. If they could teach people advance techniques as described in the book of Enoch, they could easily reproduce by other means. It was not only sexually immorality that was involved but also other evil and wickedness that was committed on earth.

Why do you think that God destroyed every land animals and plants on earth except marine life with a great Flood? It's because marine life were not sexually or immorally violated. God is fair and just and will not punish those that do not sinned.


God is Fair and Just. :pray:

[Richard Amiel McGough]

That is the Stupidiest answer I ever come across. Were people forced to go hysterectomy or penilectomy because of sexual crime?....sounds cruel and atrocious!

Dude ... you are the last person who should be calling anyone's answers stupid! You appear to be totally ignorant of the Bible which says that God closes wombs without removing body parts.

Genesis 20:17 So Abraham prayed unto God: and God healed Abimelech, and his wife, and his maidservants; and they bare children. 18 For the LORD had fast closed up all the wombs of the house of Abimelech, because of Sarah Abraham's wife.



Will that stop them from sexual immorality by other means?...

There you go again. You are totally hung up on sex as if that was what morality was all about. SEX SEX SEX. What about the morality of the Creator? Why did he create a world that is so evil that he had to violently destroy everyone? What's wrong with him? Is he stupid? Does he just love hurting people? Is that what God is really all about?



Might as well permanently closed the mouth and anus and remove the breasts!

Thank you for proving that Rose's comment was not the stupidest!



Shutting up the womb will not stop people from reproducing, you do not know what these "sons of God" or the power of Satan could do. If they could teach people advance techniques as described in the book of Enoch, they could easily reproduce by other means. It was not only sexually immorality that was involved but also other evil and wickedness that was committed on earth.

Oh .. so the book of Enoch teaches "advanced techniques" for reproduction through other means! Man, where do you get these crazy ideas?



Why do you think that God destroyed every land animals and plants on earth except marine life with a great Flood? It's because marine life were not sexually or immorally violated. God is fair and just and will not punish those that do not sinned.

So all the babies were dirty rotten sinners who deserved to be killed? Brilliant!

I get the impression you don't believe a word of what you write. It looks like you are just trying to make Christians look stupid. Well let me tell you, you don't need to try so hard. It's already obvious to everyone with any brains.

[CWH]

[QUOTE=RAM;43236]Dude ... you are the last person who should be calling anyone's answers stupid!
You are over-sensitive, I will not call anyone stupid just their thoughts and answers, anything wrong with that?


You appear to be totally ignorant of the Bible which says that God closes wombs without removing body parts.

Genesis 20:17 So Abraham prayed unto God: and God healed Abimelech, and his wife, and his maidservants; and they bare children. 18 For the LORD had fast closed up all the wombs of the house of Abimelech, because of Sarah Abraham's wife.
So can Satan close people's womb and inflict them with diseases.

* Luke 8:2 'And also some women who had been cured of evil spirits and diseases: Mary (called Magdalene) from whom seven demons had come out…' NIV

* Luke 13:11 'and a woman was there who had been crippled by a spirit for eighteen years. She was bent over and could not straighten up at all.' NIV

* Luke 13:16 'Then should not this woman, a daughter of Abraham, whom Satan has kept bound for eighteen long years, be set free on the Sabbath day from what bound her?"

* Matthew 9 :20 Just then a woman who had been subject to bleeding for twelve years came up behind him and touched the edge of his cloak. 21 She said to herself, 'If I only touch his cloak, I will be healed.'
NIV


There you go again. You are totally hung up on sex as if that was what morality was all about. SEX SEX SEX.
Isn't this world filled with Sex Sex Sex? Look at the amount of pornographic materials in the internet!... prostituition, fornications, adultery, homosexuals, lesbians etc.


What about the morality of the Creator?Why did he create a world that is so evil that he had to violently destroy everyone? What's wrong with him? Is he stupid? Does he just love hurting people? Is that what God is really all about?
What would you do if you are God? Save Save Save including the evildoers and the most wickeds so that the world will be filled by those evil and wicked generations....Brilliant! The Book of Enoch gives details regarding the evil generations of the sons of God that lust after earth's women, See below. I know you regard the book of Enoch is fake, if so why did Jesus and James referenced from it? Ahhh... what does it matters anyway?... You regard the Bible as false also.


Thank you for proving that Rose's comment was not the stupidest!
Thanks for the admission that Rose's comment was also one of the stupidest!


Oh .. so the book of Enoch teaches "advanced techniques" for reproduction through other means! Man, where do you get these crazy ideas?
I didn't say they taught advanced techniques for reproduction but they taught earth's men advanced skills and knowledge of their time in enchantments, astrology, metals, clouds, constellations etc.:
The Book of Enoch[Chapter 7]

1 And all the others together with them took unto themselves wives, and each chose for himself one, and they began to go in unto them and to defile themselves with them, and they taught them charms 2 and enchantments, and the cutting of roots, and made them acquainted with plants. And they 3 became pregnant, and they bare great giants, whose height was three thousand ells: Who consumed 4 all the acquisitions of men. And when men could no longer sustain them, the giants turned against 5 them and devoured mankind. And they began to sin against birds, and beasts, and reptiles, and 6 fish, and to devour one another's flesh, and drink the blood. Then the earth laid accusation against the lawless ones.

[Chapter 8]

1 And Azazel taught men to make swords, and knives, and shields, and breastplates, and made known to them the metals of the earth and the art of working them, and bracelets, and ornaments, and the use of antimony, and the beautifying of the eyelids, and all kinds of costly stones, and all 2 colouring tinctures. And there arose much godlessness, and they committed fornication, and they 3 were led astray, and became corrupt in all their ways. Semjaza taught enchantments, and root-cuttings, 'Armaros the resolving of enchantments, Baraqijal (taught) astrology, Kokabel the constellations, Ezeqeel the knowledge of the clouds, Araqiel the signs of the earth, Shamsiel the signs of the sun, and Sariel the course of the moon. And as men perished, they cried, and their cry went up to heaven . . .


So all the babies were dirty rotten sinners who deserved to be killed? Brilliant!
The book of Enoch says that the even the animals, birds, fish were defiled by the generations of the sons of God. Would you want to Keep, Keep, Keep those babies defiled by evil and wicked sons of God?


I get the impression you don't believe a word of what you write. It looks like you are just trying to make Christians look stupid. Well let me tell you, you don't need to try so hard. It's already obvious to everyone with any brains.
What difference does it make? You regard all Christians as delutional and without brains.

God forgive them, they know not what they are doing.:pray: