Shadows of Christ

[gilgal]

I want to devote this thread on types and shadows of Jesus Christ. So if any wants to share his views and discoveries here's the place.

[Richard Amiel McGough]

I want to devote this thread on types and shadows of Jesus Christ. So if any wants to share his views and discoveries here's the place.
Melchizedek brought forth bread and wine. He was a priest of the most high God. Lot's of good typological stuff here, plus a powerful link from the Inner Cycle of Genesis (Chapter 14) to Hebrews on Spoke 14, with the "priestly" concept amplified by links between Hebrews and Book 14 (2 Chronicles).

[gilgal]

Melchizedek brought forth bread and wine. He was a priest of the most high God. Lot's of good typological stuff here, plus a powerful link from the Inner Cycle of Genesis (Chapter 14) to Hebrews on Spoke 14, with the "priestly" concept amplified by links between Hebrews and Book 14 (2 Chronicles).
Ok so what's the significance of Melchizedek?

I know that Hebrews expands on the interpretation of Genesis 14:

The meaning of the name is significant that Melchi means king and Zedek is Righteous.

Also he was the King and Priest of Salem meaning Peace Shalom. Salem is later known as the Jebusite city, Jebusalem, Jerusalem.

Abram considered Melchizedek superior that he accepted his blessings and in return gave tithes of the spoils he took (note that tithes 10% are from the spoils and not his belongings or income salary otherwise it would be considered as free will offering)

Do you guys see anything else that I missed?

Exactly how does Jesus Christ resemble Melchizedek?

[Richard Amiel McGough]

Ok so what's the significance of Melchizedek?

I know that Hebrews expands on the interpretation of Genesis 14:

The meaning of the name is significant that Melchi means king and Zedek is Righteous.

Also he was the King and Priest of Salem meaning Peace Shalom. Salem is later known as the Jebusite city, Jebusalem, Jerusalem.

Abram considered Melchizedek superior that he accepted his blessings and in return gave tithes of the spoils he took (note that tithes 10% are from the spoils and not his belongings or income salary otherwise it would be considered as free will offering)

Do you guys see anything else that I missed?

Exactly how does Jesus Christ resemble Melchizedek?
I think the description in Hebrews 7 pretty much says it all.

Of course, we could always spice things up with a little gematria. It turns out the Hebrew title Yehoshua HaMeshiach (Jesus Christ) has the same value as Melchizedek King of Peace:

The Number 754 (http://biblewheel.com/gr/gr_754.asp)

My Holy Name [Ezek 39.7]
http://biblewheel.com/forum/../images/ShemQadshi.gif
Shem Qadshi

JESUS CHRIST
http://biblewheel.com/forum/../images/YehoshuaHaMeshiach.gif
Yehoshua HaMeshiach

Melchizedek, King of Peace [Gen 14.18]
http://biblewheel.com/forum/../images/MelchizedekKingOfPeace.gif

The Authority [Rev 12.10]
http://biblewheel.com/forum/../images/TheAuthority.gif
Hey Exusia

The Mighty One of Israel [Isa 1.24]
http://biblewheel.com/forum/../images/MightyOneOfIsrael.gif
Avir Yisrael

the appearance of the likeness
of the glory of the LORD [Ezek 1.28]
http://biblewheel.com/forum/../images/Ezek_126_754.gif
Mirah damuth Kavod YHVH

[gilgal]

I think the description in Hebrews 7 pretty much says it all.

Of course, we could always spice things up with a little gematria. It turns out the Hebrew title Yehoshua HaMeshiach (Jesus Christ) has the same value as Melchizedek King of Peace:

The Number 754 (http://biblewheel.com/gr/gr_754.asp)

My Holy Name [Ezek 39.7]
http://biblewheel.com/forum/../images/ShemQadshi.gif
Shem Qadshi

JESUS CHRIST
http://biblewheel.com/forum/../images/YehoshuaHaMeshiach.gif
Yehoshua HaMeshiach

Melchizedek, King of Peace [Gen 14.18]
http://biblewheel.com/forum/../images/MelchizedekKingOfPeace.gif

The Authority [Rev 12.10]
http://biblewheel.com/forum/../images/TheAuthority.gif
Hey Exusia

The Mighty One of Israel [Isa 1.24]
http://biblewheel.com/forum/../images/MightyOneOfIsrael.gif
Avir Yisrael

the appearance of the likeness
of the glory of the LORD [Ezek 1.28]
http://biblewheel.com/forum/../images/Ezek_126_754.gif
Mirah damuth Kavod YHVH
What I mean is that usually within shadows and types and parables something spiritual is defined. What point is defined in Genesis 14? The Passover? Since Melchizedek brought Abram bread and wine.

[Richard Amiel McGough]

What I mean is that usually within shadows and types and parables something spiritual is defined. What point is defined in Genesis 14? The Passover? Since Melchizedek brought Abram bread and wine.
That's an excellent insight. There is a strong connection between the Passover on the 14th of Nisan (http://www.biblewheel.com/Wheel/Spokes/Nun_Passover.asp) and great Passovers in 2 Chronicles (Book 14) and the Priestly theme (http://www.biblewheel.com/Wheel/Spokes/Nun_2Chronicles.asp) that includes the Book of Hebrews (Spoke 14, Cycle 3) (http://www.biblewheel.com/Wheel/Spokes/Nun_Melchizedek.asp) and links back to Genesis 14 and Melchizedek (http://www.biblewheel.com/InnerWheels/Genesis/Genesis14.asp). This is a very rich set of connections. Even the date of the Passover repeats the pattern.

[gilgal]

That's an excellent insight. There is a strong connection between the Passover on the 14th of Nisan (http://www.biblewheel.com/Wheel/Spokes/Nun_Passover.asp) and great Passovers in 2 Chronicles (Book 14) and the Priestly theme (http://www.biblewheel.com/Wheel/Spokes/Nun_2Chronicles.asp) that includes the Book of Hebrews (Spoke 14, Cycle 3) (http://www.biblewheel.com/Wheel/Spokes/Nun_Melchizedek.asp) and links back to Genesis 14 and Melchizedek (http://www.biblewheel.com/InnerWheels/Genesis/Genesis14.asp). This is a very rich set of connections. Even the date of the Passover repeats the pattern.
Maybe the bread and wine symbolize the body and blood of the Messiah as well as it is presented by the righteous king and priest of peace or Jerusalem (heavenly Jerusalem?).

But what had Melchizedek to do with the cities that entered into war in Genesis 14? Maybe there's a prophetic implication that as the Jews return from the captivity of Babylon they will meet the Messiah in the flesh. Maybe Genesis 14 is a code decrypted in 2Chronicles where had Sodomites and other sins and taken captive by four empires the 1st being Babylon or Shinar.

When Hiram blessed Solomon Solomon gave him 20 cities mentioned in 1Kings 9 but not in 2Chronicles 2 and Hiram wasn't pleased.

[heb13-13]

I wanted to add something about Hebrews 7.

Actually, Hebrews 7 has nothing to do with tithing in the New Covenant but most preachers use it for that. Tithing is only mentioned as part of a comparison between the Melchizedek and the Levitical priesthood to show us how far superior a priest Jesus is.

The book of Hebrews proclaims the superiority of the New Covenant. It says we have a better hope (7:19), better covenant (7:22)(8:6), better promises (8:6), better sacrifices (9:23), better substance (10:34), better country (11:16), better resurrection (11:35), and better outcome of our faith (11:40).

It shows that Jesus has a better name (1:4) and better blood (12:24), and that we now have a better cleansing of sin, a better conscience (9:14), and a better relationship with God, entering the true holy place in the heavenly realm.

This is what Hebrews 7 is all about! Showing us by tying into all the other "better" verses, that we do indeed have a far better (superior) Priest in Jesus Christ.

[Richard Amiel McGough]

I wanted to add something about Hebrews 7.

Actually, Hebrews 7 has nothing to do with tithing in the New Covenant but most preachers use it for that. Tithing is only mentioned as part of a comparison between the Melchizedek and the Levitical priesthood to show us how far superior a priest Jesus is.

The book of Hebrews proclaims the superiority of the New Covenant. It says we have a better hope (7:19), better covenant (7:22)(8:6), better promises (8:6), better sacrifices (9:23), better substance (10:34), better country (11:16), better resurrection (11:35), and better outcome of our faith (11:40).

It shows that Jesus has a better name (1:4) and better blood (12:24), and that we now have a better cleansing of sin, a better conscience (9:14), and a better relationship with God, entering the true holy place in the heavenly realm.

This is what Hebrews 7 is all about! Showing us by tying into all the other "better" verses, that we do indeed have a far better (superior) Priest in Jesus Christ.


Hey Rick!

I'd never noticed the prominence of the word "better" in Hebrews. That's a new insight for me. Thanks!

:signthankspin:

Richard

[heb13-13]

Hey Rick!

I'd never noticed the prominence of the word "better" in Hebrews. That's a new insight for me. Thanks!

:signthankspin:

Richard

Hi Richard,

You're welcome. It's pretty cool when you see all of them together like that. I was blown away when I first saw it. I wonder where else we can find "better"

in the Bible?

5 minutes later. There are a whole bunch of verses with "better" in it. Some really interesting ones but far too many to delve into tonight, er, rather this morning.

Rick

[Richard Amiel McGough]

Hi Richard,

You're welcome. It's pretty cool when you see all of them together like that. I was blown away when I first saw it. I wonder where else we can find "better"

in the Bible?

5 minutes later. There are a whole bunch of verses with "better" in it. Some really interesting ones but far too many to delve into tonight, er, rather this morning.

Rick
That's correct. In the OT, the most occurrences are found in Proverbs and Ecclesiastes. In the NT, the most occurrences are found in Hebrews (about 1/3 of the total).

[TheDivineWatermark]

Hi Richard,

You're welcome. It's pretty cool when you see all of them together like that. I was blown away when I first saw it. I wonder where else we can find "better"

in the Bible?

5 minutes later. There are a whole bunch of verses with "better" in it. Some really interesting ones but far too many to delve into tonight, er, rather this morning.

Rick

Your post reminded me of another fascinating NT word, which is "excel" and its variants. One that struck me, at one point, just as you describe about the word "better."

Such as in Philippians 1:10, "That ye may approve [prove] things that are excellent [Strong's G1308]"

Apparently, there are 7 different Greek words in the NT (in addition to G1308):

http://www.blueletterbible.org/search/lexiconc.cfm?Criteria=excel&st=any

A good study. :)

[heb13-13]

Jesus is an eternal priest who offers bread and wine, which became his very body and blood.

[Bob May]

Hi gentlemen,

I see the opening of our understanding symbolised by the number 14.
Circumcision of the heart.

Mt 1:17 So all the generations from Abraham to David are fourteen generations; and from David until the carrying away into Babylon are fourteen generations; and from the carrying away into Babylon unto Christ are fourteen generations.

These three are major changes in our understanding of Scripture as are all of the forefathers and line of Jesus.

Ge 17:12 And he that is eight days old shall be circumcised among you, every man child in your generations, he that is born in the house, or bought with money of any stranger, which is not of thy seed.

I look at this as a promise rather than a commandment. "He.. shall be circumcised."

Eight signifies the first day of a New Covenant. Seven being Covenant or week.

1/10 is that which returns to God or "one with God." one being the individual and zero being God.

The three fourteens add up to 42. It has to do with being fed by God. Spiritual food. That is how we are washed. (baptised) and this also relates to the three groups of fourteen. We are washed in three distinct ways.

Mt 3:11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire:

Re 12:6 And the woman fled into the WILDERNESS, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.
Re 12:14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the WILDERNESS, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent

1260 divided by 360 (a "prophetic year?") equals 3 1/2 years.
A "time" being a year,.. then a time and times and half a time also equals 3 1/2 years.
Or 42 months which is the three fourteens.

So we are not only fed (nourished) by the word we are washed by it and also recieving the body and blood of Christ by it.

Lu 22:19 And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me.
Lu 22:20 Likewise also the cup after supper, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood, which is shed for you.

The blood is the life, the scarlet thread that runs through the generations.
The life that gives the word the power to change us and feed us spiritually.
We are the woman in the wilderness being fed.

That's all I got for now,
Bob

[gilgal]

We look at David a shepherd busy with his work while Samuel came to anoint God's chosen to be king in 1Samuel 16.

Jesus was a shepherd of men.

And while he was king he was the best example history could ever tell of a godly king, not being bribed but pleasing God entirely.

[Bob May]

We look at David a shepherd busy with his work while Samuel came to anoint God's chosen to be king in 1Samuel 16.

Jesus was a shepherd of men.

And while he was king he was the best example history could ever tell of a godly king, not being bribed but pleasing God entirely.

David also is a type of Jesus in that he was a Champion.
When he went out to meet Goliath one on one they were Champions of their respective nations.
In other words what they did on that battlefield counted for everyone standing behind them. David won, the battle was finished.

This is illustrative of the doctrine of imputed righteousness. What Jesus did on the cross counted for all believers. (Israel)
Bob

[Richard Amiel McGough]

And while he was king he was the best example history could ever tell of a godly king, not being bribed but pleasing God entirely.
Hummm ... I'm not sure a murderous adulteror was really that great of an example.

[gilgal]

Hummm ... I'm not sure a murderous adulteror was really that great of an example.
Well... except for that of course. But scripture is written in a way that no one in the Bible except for Jesus has shown perfection. We don't like it when someone talks against us or writes against us. But scripture writes against the kings but keeps the balance. It points out where King David went wrong even though while David was living he seemed to assume that since he has the absolute authority he can easily get Bathsheba and kill off her husband. But even though he succeeded he regretted it because the punishment was too heavy. God didn't kill him off because he had promised that the messiah would come out of the lineage of David, if the next son hadn't been born yet (I think it was Nathan and not Solomon who was the ancestor of Jesus Christ). God can't break unconditional promises. Or if he had been born then simply God was gracious to David.

But David showed faith in any ways:
He killed Goliath by a stone;
He as persecuted by Saul but didn't lift up his hand against him even though he had many chances to do so.

But these thing don't make him uniquely a type of Christ.

He had the anointing of kingship while Saul was alive and later persecuted him. But here's an example of evil turning into good. Saul promised to give him his daughter if he slew the Philistines hoping that he would die. God helped him win get married and take over the throne. Saul's sons died in battle so that gave him the right to the throne.

[heb13-13]

David is a type of walking in the Spirit entrusting himself to God and Saul was a type of the flesh.

David actually had a chance to kill Saul and did not. Do we all walk in the Spirit at all times? We all have exhibited hearts of iron and feet of clay. We ARE what God has to work with. And the mystery of godliness (God inhabiting man) is incredible. Just as astonishing is the mystery of iniquity (Satan inhabiting man).

Have we all committed murder (hatred) and adultery (lust)? Yes.

Is any man able to have a "heart after God?"

I don't know if the Armor of God is a type of Christ as much as it is Christ Himself for New Covenant Believers. I suppose since the pieces of the armor are spoken of as objects (sword, helmet, breastplate), then they are meant to typify something and to me it is Christ.

There are the usual types such as Abel, Moses, the Ark, Abraham, Cities of Refuge, First-Fruits, Jonah, Jacob's Ladder, Mercy Seat, Manna, etc, etc. But I have never heard anyone say the Armor is a type of Christ.

Here is why I believe it is.

Eph 6:11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.

Rom 13:14But put ye on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make not provision for the flesh, to fulfil the lusts thereof.

And when you look at the armor, each one typifies Jesus Christ. Sword of the Spirit (He is the Word of God), Helmet of Salvation (He is our salvation), Breastplate of Righteouness (He is our Righteousness), Shoes of Peace (He is our peace), etc, etc. You can actully find scriptures which show that He is each one of these things. When we "put on the Lord Jesus Christ", we are putting on the WHOLE ARMOR OF GOD.

Didn't Saul give his armor to David and David tried it on and then refused it because it was not tested or proven?

And Saul armed David with his armour, and he put an helmet of brass upon his head; also he armed him with a coat of mail. 1Sa 17:38

And David girded his sword upon his armour, and he assayed to go; for he had not proved it. And David said unto Saul, I cannot go with these; for I have not proved them. And David put them off him. 1Sa 17:39

You can be sure that David went forth with something that HE HAD PROVED.

All David needed was a "stone" and to go forth in the "Name of the Lord of Hosts."

He had proven the Name of the Lord of Hosts in battles as a shepherd, protecting the sheep from a bear and a lion. (Satan goes about as a roaring lion seeking whom he may devour).

Then said David to the Philistine, Thou comest to me with a sword, and with a spear, and with a shield: but I come to thee in the name of the LORD of hosts, the God of the armies of Israel, whom thou hast defied. 1Sa 17:45

Rick

[Richard Amiel McGough]

David is a type of walking in the Spirit entrusting himself to God and Saul was a type of the flesh.

Yep - that typology manifests strongly on Spoke 9, as explained in this section of the Bible Wheel book:

Spoke 9 - Good vs. Evil, Spirit vs. Flesh: Saul persecutes David (http://www.biblewheel.com/wheel/spokes/Tet_GoodvEvil.asp)

[heb13-13]

Yep - that typology manifests strongly on Spoke 9, as explained in this section of the Bible Wheel book:

Spoke 9 - Good vs. Evil, Spirit vs. Flesh: Saul persecutes David (http://www.biblewheel.com/wheel/spokes/Tet_GoodvEvil.asp)

Hey Richard,

Thanks for that reminder! I recall that now and will review it. My recollection is that it was very good.

All the best,
Rick

[gilgal]

Hey Richard,

Thanks for that reminder! I recall that now and will review it. My recollection is that it was very good.

All the best,
Rick
I loved Saul in the beginning. He seemed to be a shy person who didn't want too much responsibility perhaps too much for him to handle, so he thinks. Samuel encouraged him after he found Saul hiding behind the bushes 1Samuel 8-10. And the children of the Ammonites were used by God to prove his anointeds' courage and leadership such as Saul in 1Samuel 11 and Jephthah in Judges 11.

But Saul had the fear of his surroundings, people badmouthing him. The only one he should fear is God. David had concern of his surroundings as well but he stood his ground and prayed for the situations such as Absalom's most wise counselor Ahitophel (maybe Solomon had his character since he was his great grandson).

But God mentioned that David's descendants would die violent deaths because David killed the Gentile Uriah (yes God cares about Gentiles too, not just Jews). So we see the rape of Tamar, murder of Amnon, death of Absalom, generations later the death of the royal seed by Athaliah 2Kings 11 and generations later the massacre of infants in Bethlehem where David was born. And this brings more glory to God that they all failed to change the plan of his salvation through Jesus Christ. We often question, "why so many undeserved deaths?"