EndtimesDeut32/70AD
10-01-2011, 08:55 PM
Do these two chapters appear to be referring to the same events?
Duet 30 would have been recorded and spoken by Moses just before the people crossed the Jordan under Joshua. Ezekiel 36 would have been prophesied @1000 yrs later while the people were in the Babylonian captivity; the curse of the law of Moses; which had been prophesied in Deut 28:15 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deut%2028:15&version=KJV) etc and which Deut 30 mentions.
Wouldn't it seem appropriate for God to give Daniel and Ezekiel additional clarity and instruction about things Moses prophesied about; the return from Babylonian captivity and the subsequent circumcision of the heart when that time came upon them?
1And it shall come to pass, when all these things are come upon thee, the blessing and the curse, which I have set before thee, and thou shalt call them to mind among all the nations, whither the LORD thy God hath driven thee,
2And shalt return unto the LORD thy God, and shalt obey his voice according to all that I command thee this day, thou and thy children, with all thine heart, and with all thy soul;
In chapter 9 Daniel (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Dan%209&version=KJV) states that the babylonian captivity is the curse of the law of Moses as recorded in some of the preceding chapters of Deut such as 28:15 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deut%2028:15&version=KJV). His prayer in chapter 9 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Dan%209&version=KJV), especially vs 11-13 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Dan%209:%2011-13&version=KJV) acknowledges the babylonian captivity as the curse of the law of Moses.
3That then the LORD thy God will turn thy captivity, and have compassion upon thee; and will return and gather thee from all the nations, whither the LORD thy God hath scattered thee. [DURING THE BABYLONIAN CAPTIVITY]
4If any of thine be driven out unto the outmost parts of heaven, from thence will the LORD thy God gather thee, and from thence will he fetch thee:
5And the LORD thy God will bring thee into the land which thy fathers possessed, and thou shalt possess it; and he will do thee good, and multiply thee above thy fathers.
6And the LORD thy God will circumcise thine heart, and the heart of thy seed, to love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, that thou mayest live.
7And the LORD thy God will put all these curses upon thine enemies, and on them that hate thee, which persecuted thee.
8And thou shalt return and obey the voice of the LORD, and do all his commandments which I command thee this day.
9And the LORD thy God will make thee plenteous in every work of thine hand, in the fruit of thy body, and in the fruit of thy cattle, and in the fruit of thy land, for good: for the LORD will again rejoice over thee for good, as he rejoiced over thy fathers:
This was prophsied by Ezekiel who like Daniel was a prophet during the Babylonian captivity and while Jerusalem laid in waste.
4Therefore, ye mountains of Israel, hear the word of the Lord GOD; Thus saith the Lord GOD to the mountains, and to the hills, to the rivers, and to the valleys, to the desolate wastes, and to the cities that are forsaken, which became a prey and derision to the residue of the heathen that are round about;
5Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Surely in the fire of my jealousy have I spoken against the residue of the heathen, and against all Idumea, which have appointed my land into their possession with the joy of all their heart, with despiteful minds, to cast it out for a prey.
6Prophesy therefore concerning the land of Israel, and say unto the mountains, and to the hills, to the rivers, and to the valleys, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I have spoken in my jealousy and in my fury, because ye have borne the shame of the heathen:
7Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; I have lifted up mine hand, Surely the heathen that are about you, they shall bear their shame.
8But ye, O mountains of Israel, ye shall shoot forth your branches, and yield your fruit to my people of Israel; for they are at hand to come. AT HAND IN @500 BC; REFERRING TO THE RETURN FROM THE BABYLONIAN CAPTIVITY.
9For, behold, I am for you, and I will turn unto you, and ye shall be tilled and sown:
10And I will multiply men upon you, all the house of Israel, even all of it: and the cities shall be inhabited, and the wastes shall be builded:
11And I will multiply upon you man and beast; and they shall increase and bring fruit: and I will settle you after your old estates, and will do better unto you than at your beginnings: and ye shall know that I am the LORD.
12Yea, I will cause men to walk upon you, even my people Israel; and they shall possess thee, and thou shalt be their inheritance, and thou shalt no more henceforth bereave them of men.
13Thus saith the Lord GOD; Because they say unto you, Thou land devourest up men, and hast bereaved thy nations:
14Therefore thou shalt devour men no more, neither bereave thy nations any more, saith the Lord GOD.
15Neither will I cause men to hear in thee the shame of the heathen any more, neither shalt thou bear the reproach of the people any more, neither shalt thou cause thy nations to fall any more, saith the Lord GOD.
16Moreover the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,
17Son of man, when the house of Israel dwelt in their own land, they defiled it by their own way and by their doings: their way was before me as the uncleanness of a removed woman.
18Wherefore I poured my fury upon them for the blood that they had shed upon the land, and for their idols wherewith they had polluted it:
19And I scattered them among the heathen, and they were dispersed through the countries: according to their way and according to their doings I judged them.
20And when they entered unto the heathen, whither they went, they profaned my holy name, when they said to them, These are the people of the LORD, and are gone forth out of his land.
21But I had pity for mine holy name, which the house of Israel had profaned among the heathen, whither they went.
22Therefore say unto the house of Israel, thus saith the Lord GOD; I do not this for your sakes, O house of Israel, but for mine holy name's sake, which ye have profaned among the heathen, whither ye went.
23And I will sanctify my great name, which was profaned among the heathen, which ye have profaned in the midst of them; and the heathen shall know that I am the LORD, saith the Lord GOD, when I shall be sanctified in you before their eyes.
24For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, [FROM THE BABYLONIAN CAPTIVITY] and will bring you into your own land.
25 Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you.
26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
27And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.
28And ye shall dwell in the land that I gave to your fathers; and ye shall be my people, and I will be your God.
29I will also save you from all your uncleanness: and I will call for the corn, and will increase it, and lay no famine upon you.
30And I will multiply the fruit of the tree, and the increase of the field, that ye shall receive no more reproach of famine among the heathen.
31Then shall ye remember your own evil ways, and your doings that were not good, and shall lothe yourselves in your own sight for your iniquities and for your abominations.
32Not for your sakes do I this, saith the Lord GOD, be it known unto you: be ashamed and confounded for your own ways, O house of Israel.
33Thus saith the Lord GOD; In the day that I shall have cleansed you from all your iniquities [THE DAYS OF THE INDIVIDUALIZED NEW COVENANT AND INSTRUCTION OF THE NEW PROPHET] I will also cause you to dwell in the cities, and the wastes shall be builded.
34And the desolate land shall be tilled, whereas it lay desolate in the sight of all that passed by.
35And they shall say, This land that was desolate is become like the garden of Eden; and the waste and desolate and ruined cities are become fenced, and are inhabited.
36Then the heathen that are left round about you shall know that I the LORD build the ruined places, and plant that that was desolate: I the LORD have spoken it, and I will do it.
37Thus saith the Lord GOD; I will yet for this be enquired of by the house of Israel, to do it for them; I will increase them with men like a flock.
38As the holy flock, as the flock of Jerusalem in her solemn feasts; so shall the waste cities be filled with flocks of men: and they shall know that I am the LORD.
Arent vs 6 of Duet 30 and vs 26,27 of Ezekiel 36 in reference to the New covenant AND new words of Christ?
Wasn't the return to the land specified to be after the Babylonian captivity?
Since these were referring to events following the babylonian captivity and dispersion; which would be followed by the circumcision of the heart and the latter end of the mosaic covenant; why do modern prophecy teachers; Joel Rosenberg; Lahaye, dispensationalists, etc... disbelieve and reject them as fulfilled?
Since Paul treats Deut 30:6-19 as fulfilled in his referral to it in Romans 10:6-9; isn't he also including Ezekiel 36:26,27 as fulfilled? In fact some of the words form Romans 10 seem to be referring to Ezekiel 36 more than Duet 30.
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Duet 30 would have been recorded and spoken by Moses just before the people crossed the Jordan under Joshua. Ezekiel 36 would have been prophesied @1000 yrs later while the people were in the Babylonian captivity; the curse of the law of Moses; which had been prophesied in Deut 28:15 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deut%2028:15&version=KJV) etc and which Deut 30 mentions.
Wouldn't it seem appropriate for God to give Daniel and Ezekiel additional clarity and instruction about things Moses prophesied about; the return from Babylonian captivity and the subsequent circumcision of the heart when that time came upon them?
1And it shall come to pass, when all these things are come upon thee, the blessing and the curse, which I have set before thee, and thou shalt call them to mind among all the nations, whither the LORD thy God hath driven thee,
2And shalt return unto the LORD thy God, and shalt obey his voice according to all that I command thee this day, thou and thy children, with all thine heart, and with all thy soul;
In chapter 9 Daniel (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Dan%209&version=KJV) states that the babylonian captivity is the curse of the law of Moses as recorded in some of the preceding chapters of Deut such as 28:15 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deut%2028:15&version=KJV). His prayer in chapter 9 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Dan%209&version=KJV), especially vs 11-13 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Dan%209:%2011-13&version=KJV) acknowledges the babylonian captivity as the curse of the law of Moses.
3That then the LORD thy God will turn thy captivity, and have compassion upon thee; and will return and gather thee from all the nations, whither the LORD thy God hath scattered thee. [DURING THE BABYLONIAN CAPTIVITY]
4If any of thine be driven out unto the outmost parts of heaven, from thence will the LORD thy God gather thee, and from thence will he fetch thee:
5And the LORD thy God will bring thee into the land which thy fathers possessed, and thou shalt possess it; and he will do thee good, and multiply thee above thy fathers.
6And the LORD thy God will circumcise thine heart, and the heart of thy seed, to love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, that thou mayest live.
7And the LORD thy God will put all these curses upon thine enemies, and on them that hate thee, which persecuted thee.
8And thou shalt return and obey the voice of the LORD, and do all his commandments which I command thee this day.
9And the LORD thy God will make thee plenteous in every work of thine hand, in the fruit of thy body, and in the fruit of thy cattle, and in the fruit of thy land, for good: for the LORD will again rejoice over thee for good, as he rejoiced over thy fathers:
This was prophsied by Ezekiel who like Daniel was a prophet during the Babylonian captivity and while Jerusalem laid in waste.
4Therefore, ye mountains of Israel, hear the word of the Lord GOD; Thus saith the Lord GOD to the mountains, and to the hills, to the rivers, and to the valleys, to the desolate wastes, and to the cities that are forsaken, which became a prey and derision to the residue of the heathen that are round about;
5Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Surely in the fire of my jealousy have I spoken against the residue of the heathen, and against all Idumea, which have appointed my land into their possession with the joy of all their heart, with despiteful minds, to cast it out for a prey.
6Prophesy therefore concerning the land of Israel, and say unto the mountains, and to the hills, to the rivers, and to the valleys, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I have spoken in my jealousy and in my fury, because ye have borne the shame of the heathen:
7Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; I have lifted up mine hand, Surely the heathen that are about you, they shall bear their shame.
8But ye, O mountains of Israel, ye shall shoot forth your branches, and yield your fruit to my people of Israel; for they are at hand to come. AT HAND IN @500 BC; REFERRING TO THE RETURN FROM THE BABYLONIAN CAPTIVITY.
9For, behold, I am for you, and I will turn unto you, and ye shall be tilled and sown:
10And I will multiply men upon you, all the house of Israel, even all of it: and the cities shall be inhabited, and the wastes shall be builded:
11And I will multiply upon you man and beast; and they shall increase and bring fruit: and I will settle you after your old estates, and will do better unto you than at your beginnings: and ye shall know that I am the LORD.
12Yea, I will cause men to walk upon you, even my people Israel; and they shall possess thee, and thou shalt be their inheritance, and thou shalt no more henceforth bereave them of men.
13Thus saith the Lord GOD; Because they say unto you, Thou land devourest up men, and hast bereaved thy nations:
14Therefore thou shalt devour men no more, neither bereave thy nations any more, saith the Lord GOD.
15Neither will I cause men to hear in thee the shame of the heathen any more, neither shalt thou bear the reproach of the people any more, neither shalt thou cause thy nations to fall any more, saith the Lord GOD.
16Moreover the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,
17Son of man, when the house of Israel dwelt in their own land, they defiled it by their own way and by their doings: their way was before me as the uncleanness of a removed woman.
18Wherefore I poured my fury upon them for the blood that they had shed upon the land, and for their idols wherewith they had polluted it:
19And I scattered them among the heathen, and they were dispersed through the countries: according to their way and according to their doings I judged them.
20And when they entered unto the heathen, whither they went, they profaned my holy name, when they said to them, These are the people of the LORD, and are gone forth out of his land.
21But I had pity for mine holy name, which the house of Israel had profaned among the heathen, whither they went.
22Therefore say unto the house of Israel, thus saith the Lord GOD; I do not this for your sakes, O house of Israel, but for mine holy name's sake, which ye have profaned among the heathen, whither ye went.
23And I will sanctify my great name, which was profaned among the heathen, which ye have profaned in the midst of them; and the heathen shall know that I am the LORD, saith the Lord GOD, when I shall be sanctified in you before their eyes.
24For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, [FROM THE BABYLONIAN CAPTIVITY] and will bring you into your own land.
25 Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you.
26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
27And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.
28And ye shall dwell in the land that I gave to your fathers; and ye shall be my people, and I will be your God.
29I will also save you from all your uncleanness: and I will call for the corn, and will increase it, and lay no famine upon you.
30And I will multiply the fruit of the tree, and the increase of the field, that ye shall receive no more reproach of famine among the heathen.
31Then shall ye remember your own evil ways, and your doings that were not good, and shall lothe yourselves in your own sight for your iniquities and for your abominations.
32Not for your sakes do I this, saith the Lord GOD, be it known unto you: be ashamed and confounded for your own ways, O house of Israel.
33Thus saith the Lord GOD; In the day that I shall have cleansed you from all your iniquities [THE DAYS OF THE INDIVIDUALIZED NEW COVENANT AND INSTRUCTION OF THE NEW PROPHET] I will also cause you to dwell in the cities, and the wastes shall be builded.
34And the desolate land shall be tilled, whereas it lay desolate in the sight of all that passed by.
35And they shall say, This land that was desolate is become like the garden of Eden; and the waste and desolate and ruined cities are become fenced, and are inhabited.
36Then the heathen that are left round about you shall know that I the LORD build the ruined places, and plant that that was desolate: I the LORD have spoken it, and I will do it.
37Thus saith the Lord GOD; I will yet for this be enquired of by the house of Israel, to do it for them; I will increase them with men like a flock.
38As the holy flock, as the flock of Jerusalem in her solemn feasts; so shall the waste cities be filled with flocks of men: and they shall know that I am the LORD.
Arent vs 6 of Duet 30 and vs 26,27 of Ezekiel 36 in reference to the New covenant AND new words of Christ?
Wasn't the return to the land specified to be after the Babylonian captivity?
Since these were referring to events following the babylonian captivity and dispersion; which would be followed by the circumcision of the heart and the latter end of the mosaic covenant; why do modern prophecy teachers; Joel Rosenberg; Lahaye, dispensationalists, etc... disbelieve and reject them as fulfilled?
Since Paul treats Deut 30:6-19 as fulfilled in his referral to it in Romans 10:6-9; isn't he also including Ezekiel 36:26,27 as fulfilled? In fact some of the words form Romans 10 seem to be referring to Ezekiel 36 more than Duet 30.
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