Luke 16:8; Aeon and Genea

[EndtimesDeut32/70AD]

Lk 16:8 And the lord commended the unjust steward, because he had done wisely: for the children of this world {AGE} are in their generation {Genea} wiser than the children of light.
There are some who can read this and fabricate a permission or even a command from God to be shrewd or almost inequitable in ones dealings.

Is this what these verses are saying?; or is there an underlying teaching of Christ that is connected from the previous chapter as well as this chapter.

We understand that 'aeon' refers often to the mosaic covanant age, and the genea refers to that turmultuous time.


Lk 16:9 And I say unto you, Make to yourselves friends of the mammon [security] of unrighteousness;[Romans] that, when ye fail, they may receive you into everlasting habitations. Aionios. [continuous ages] Are habitations the 'mammon'? I think so.

Here is a good example for CWH to consider the 'you' variable.

In the previous chapter he is addressing the Pharisees who criticized him for hanging with the "Publicans" and "sinners" [from the Pharisees perspectives}.

Lk 15:1Then drew near unto him all the publicans and sinners for to hear him.
2And the Pharisees and scribes murmured, saying, This man receiveth sinners, and eateth with them.
3And he spake this parable unto them, saying, then in the beginning of this chapter he includes the disciples in the hearing of the parable..
Luke 16:1....And he said also unto his disciples,. and reinforces that both his disciples and the pharisees were hearing it.
Lk 16:14....And the Pharisees also, who were covetous, heard all these things: and they derided him.
I have some ideas that it was primarily referring to making freinds with those in nations outside of judea, that when the Roman desolation came, they would have a place to live. ??? It also has connotations of breaking down the walls of legalistic/mosaic covenant attitudes of 'righteousness'.

It's not advocating dishonest business practices but is using a parable of a man cast out of his job, house etc.... who as a last effort reduced their bills in hopes of finding obligatory favor with them.

Was this spoken to jews, or to Christians?...

What is the teaching of this parable in the manner it was intended to it's original audience.?

Secondarily, what [IF ANY] principles and application can we take from this, if the original intended audience was the first century generation. {Genea}.

Or do we have freedom to use these words in whatever way we wish to convey any message we choose?

[Charles Wade]

Hey endtimes:Maybe this will throw some light on this parable


What is the teaching of this parable in the manner it was intended to it's original audience.?
Luke 16:1 ¶ And he said also unto his disciples, There was a certain rich man, which had a steward;
This certain rich man is Lord & master of this house.
2. Jesus is telling the parable, not including Himself in the parable.
3. The rules of Grammar force you back to verse one :and Jesus said ;"There was a certain rich man".
4. The rich man ,lord & master of this house commended the unjust steward, not Jesus.

Grammar rules prohibit to render this reading any other way,and then the wisdom of the parable stands for itself.

The Lord of the house is fooled by the padding of the bills and commends the unjust "steward" because as it says the children of darkness[in this case the unjust stewards and his cronies]are wise of this world & the steward is of light and light comprehends not the darkness.

So, Jesus tell his disciples that all these folks are doing, is preparing for this place by their unjustness,meaning Hell.

Luke 16:9 And I say unto you, Make to yourselves friends of the mammon of unrighteousness; that, when ye fail, they may receive you into everlasting habitations.

My two cents worth,Chas.

[EndtimesDeut32/70AD]

Hey endtimes:Maybe this will throw some light on this parable

Luke 16:1 ¶ And he said also unto his disciples, There was a certain rich man, which had a steward;
This certain rich man is Lord & master of this house.
2. Jesus is telling the parable, not including Himself in the parable.
3. The rules of Grammar force you back to verse one :and Jesus said ;"There was a certain rich man".
4. The rich man ,lord & master of this house commended the unjust steward, not Jesus.

The Lord of the house is fooled by the padding of the bills and commends the unjust "steward" because as it says the children of darkness[in this case the unjust stewards and his cronies]are wise of this world & the steward is of light and light comprehends not the darkness.

So, Jesus tell his disciples that all these folks are doing, is preparing for this place by their unjustness,meaning Hell.

Luke 16:9 And I say unto you, Make to yourselves friends of the mammon of unrighteousness; that, when ye fail, they may receive you into everlasting habitations.

My two cents worth,Chas.
Good points and a different perspective.

There seems to be a break between who is talking between vs 8 and vs 9. But the topic of Jesus statement is connected with the second part of vs 8.

I'll dig some more later when I get more time; but I don't get the perspective that aionios is 'eternal' Hell or the dung heap; but rather age enduring.

Thanks for the comments and I'll take them into consideration; hopefully others will chime in.

[Charles Wade]

s 8.

I'll dig some more later when I get more time; but I don't get the perspective that aionios is 'eternal' Hell or the dung heap; but rather age enduring.


Yes, exactly, the old age passes [and its judgments] and a new age starts.

This might make it easier.......16:8 The 25 master commended the dishonest 26 manager because he acted shrewdly. 27 For the people 28 of this world are more shrewd in dealing with their contemporaries 29 than the people 30 of light. 16:9 And I tell you, make friends for yourselves by how you use worldly wealth, 31 so that when it runs out you will be welcomed 32 into the eternal homes. 33

[EndtimesDeut32/70AD]

Lk 16:14....And the Pharisees also, who were covetous, heard all these things: and they derided him
It seems that the coveteousness of the pharisees was part of the context of the conversation, as if the parable was intended to be directed towards them, but told in the hearing of his disciples. The pharisees would have been of the age [aeon] of the law and would seek to justify their behavior due to being Pharisees; perhaps even changing the interpretation of the law and what is just and right; just as the stewerd did.



Several different angles to look at this from but there is a definite historical context of the Pharisees and scribes connected to the parable.

[Charles Wade]

Yes, The Temple Keepers were all corrupt of that age. When Jesus spoke this parable of the unjust steward, they conceived his message and they knew they were the ones being spoken of in this parable. Their hearts conceived every word, and they were still unrepentant. Enraged by their hearts, they set out to Kill Him. Their hearts were led by worldly, carnal, selfish thoughts/desires, just like the steward and the bill changing carnal [darkness]creditors/accomplices.
So the children of darkness, of this world, deceitfully & shrewdly carry out these plans and the "Rich Man" being deceived was a child of light.

Yes, the "rich man" being deceived and commending the unjust steward, exactly like the temple rulers deceived all the children of light of Israel.Look at many Jews giving the crooked yahoo's respect & honor & putting them in high esteem.
Look what Jesus said later to these leaders that have done the same,by changing the facts by adding traditions & interpretations of Kabbalah Talmud,

Mat 23:13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in [yourselves], neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.

So there is a habitation awaiting both groups at the end of this age & a final separation of the two groups.

Endtimes,that is the way I discern the parable and you brought much light on it in my opinion.
Thanks, Chas.