walking through walls

[gilgal]

John 20
26And after eight days again his disciples were within, and Thomas with them: then came Jesus, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, Peace be unto you.
27Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing.

First the doors were shut and Jesus appeared inside the house and then Thomas was able to touch the body of Jesus. Now take that scenario and compare with Ezekiel 44:


Ezekiel 44
1Then he brought me back the way of the gate of the outward sanctuary which looketh toward the east; and it was shut.
2Then said the LORD unto me; This gate shall be shut, it shall not be opened, and no man shall enter in by it; because the LORD, the God of Israel, hath entered in by it, therefore it shall be shut.
3It is for the prince; the prince, he shall sit in it to eat bread before the LORD; he shall enter by the way of the porch of that gate, and shall go out by the way of the same.

I'm I interpreting properly? Is the gate to be remained shut forever even when Jesus Christ walks through that gate?

[Richard Amiel McGough]

First the doors were shut and Jesus appeared inside the house and then Thomas was able to touch the body of Jesus. Now take that scenario and compare with Ezekiel 44:

I'm I interpreting properly? Is the gate to be remained shut forever even when Jesus Christ walks through that gate?
Hi Gilgal!

That's an interesting question. To answer it, we should begin with the verse that says Jesus is going to walk through that gate. Can you find that verse for me?

Thanks!

Richard

[Searl Miller]

I'm a little confused here. Are we talking about the Prophecy where the Messiah is to ride through the Eastern Gate on a white horse ? And which gate the Arabs blocked up and paved the entrance with graves and grave-stones to prevent its fulfillment?

Shalom.

[gilgal]

I'm a little confused here. Are we talking about the Prophecy where the Messiah is to ride through the Eastern Gate on a white horse ? And which gate the Arabs blocked up and paved the entrance with graves and grave-stones to prevent its fulfillment?

Shalom.

Yes.
His birth was, I find in the same manner. Did he open the matrix of the womb? And in John 8 the Jews were about to throw him off the cliff but he walked through them and got away.

[Trumpet]

Hi guys,

I now believe that Jesus coming through the Eastern Gate has been accomplished. And here is a photo of the fulfillment of Ez. 44. The gate is now closed forever. Jesus is NOW in His Temple. (Us.)

[Richard Amiel McGough]

Hi guys,

I now believe that Jesus coming through the Eastern Gate has been accomplished. And here is a photo of the fulfillment of Ez. 44. The gate is now closed forever. Jesus is NOW in His Temple. (Us.)
Hey Don,

I agree that Jesus is the Temple. But I am not certain that we should apply the vision in Ezekiel 44:1-2 to the wall currently standing in Jerusalem because nothing else fits the vision. There's no Temple, the walls are not even square, there are not three Gates, etc., etc., etc..

But on the other hand, the "coincidence" is rather striking:

Ezekiel 44:1-2 Then he brought me back the way of the gate of the outward sanctuary which looketh toward the east; and it was shut. 2 Then said the LORD unto me; This gate shall be shut, it shall not be opened, and no man shall enter in by it; because the LORD, the God of Israel, hath entered in by it, therefore it shall be shut.
So I'm left wondering ... :dontknow:

Richard

[Trumpet]

Hi Richard,

I guess that's my mistake! I really didn't mean to say that Jesus had entered through THAT gate as per Ez. 44. I guess I got in too much of a rush. You're right, Jesus entered through the eastern gate of the Spiritual AND Eternal Temple that is the Body of Christ with Jesus as the head, never to leave again.

I meant to show what I see as a literal graphic that God has left for all the world to see, that is , the remains of the old that will never be opened and active again. I mean to refute my old thinking of futurism, in which they think that Jesus is going to again enter a temple in the physical Jerusalem. - Not gonna happen! I agree, that God is going to end this physical world some time in the near future, (I think probably within 200 yrs), (beTAVS, that's why!), but it's not going to happen exactly as Ezekiel describes, 'cause that's done.

As I look at Ezekiel, from about Ch. 36 on, and being new to preterism, I see God offering a new life in the Spirit to the Jews of Jesus' time, in Ch 37, the conflict and punishment to those that would not go on with Jesus, in Ch 38, 39, and the new Temple of the Body of Christ described in the remainder of the book. At least that would be the logical sequence. 38 and 39, being the part about Gog and Magog; I wonder now that Gog and Magog are a portrail of the enemies of the TRUE Israelites, (the ones that accepted Jesus), as in 38:14, and through this demonically infested group of Gog and Magog, God showed His Glory by destroying 5/6ths of those rebellious Jews on the mountains of Israel, which is literally what happened to them. Does that ring possibly true with anyone else?

God Bless Don

[gilgal]

What about the time when Jesus presented himself in the temple and drove the moneychangers out? From that point the priests wanted him dead.

Maybe figuratively speaking the Lamb was brought into the temple and found spotless and worthy to be sacrificed!

That probably was the reason that the end of the temple was near.

But I also wonder when they decided to rebuild the temple at the time of Nehemiah wasn't there a plan of it's measurements written down somewhere? Then my next question would've been does it match the one in Ezekiel?