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In the passage of Matthew 19 concerning the state of one's committing adultery when they divorce and then remarry. It would be my understanding that the wording of the exception of fornication/sexual immorality would only apply to those in the jewish community that have been betorth unto a wife and or husband. In the context of Deu.22:13-14.
If any man take a wife, and go in unto her, and hate her,
And give occasions of speech against her, and bring up an evil name upon her, and say, I took this woman, and when I came to her, I found her not a maid
If this is the soul case of divorcement which would not be committing adultery after one's remarry then all other's would be commtting adultery hints the "whosoever" of Matthew 19:9. Even so with the man who marries the put away woman, he doeth commit adultery.
And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.
For this reason we must realize that in the account taken in Matthew of this exception and how other's ommitting this fact that this is a point driven by Matthew to shown that the marriage in question of the wife being unfaithful would be that of the wife that has been betroth to a husband.
We also find that same point in Matthew's account of Joseph and Mary that he was minded to put her away by the law of marriage founded in Deu. 24:1 So Joseph had the right to divorce or put away Mary for the reason of her not being faithful, for her fornication, sexual immorality the virgin that he was promised in the vows.
It lays in other scriptures throughout the new testament more in favor of this than any other exception of marriage. We find more that once the husband of one wife and that wife is for life. And the disconnection of those that commit fornication and adultery to the kingdom of God. This is only my point of view It's even different from my own church which in 2004 changed view too;
In such cases, delineated on the following page, marriage partners would not be classed as adulterers even though remarried:
So if you understand it different then please show through scripture the relating passages which show that divorce and remarriage is excepted.
EndtimesDeut32/70AD
11-23-2010, 02:08 AM
In the passage of Matthew 19 concerning the state of one's committing adultery when they divorce and then remarry. .
Matt 19:3 The Pharisees also came unto him, tempting him, and saying unto him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife for every cause?
Mat 19:7 They say unto him, Why did Moses then command to give a writing of divorcement, and to put her away?
Mat 19:8 He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so.
Mat 19:9 And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except [it be] for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.
Jhn 1:17 For the law was given by Moses, grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.
You'll have to figure out the application/understanding for your own personal life/conscience.
Been awhile since I looked at this with Good eyes ;thanks:
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Jhn 8:3 And the [B]scribes and Pharisees brought unto him a woman taken in adultery; and when they had set her in the midst,
Jhn 8:4 They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act.
Jhn 8:5 Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou?
Jhn 8:6 This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him. But Jesus stooped down, and with [his] finger wrote on the ground, [as though he heard them not].
Jhn 8:23 And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world.
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Mat 22:15 ¶ Then went the Pharisees, and took counsel how they might entangle him in [his] talk. Mat 22:16 And they sent out unto him their disciples with the Herodians, saying, Master, we know that thou art true, and teachest the way of God in truth, neither carest thou for any [man]: for thou regardest not the person of men.
Mat 22:17 Tell us therefore, What thinkest thou? Is it lawful to give tribute unto Caesar, or not?
Mat 22:18 But Jesus perceived their wickedness, and said, Why tempt ye me, [ye] hypocrites?
Mat 22:19 Shew me the tribute money. And they brought unto him a penny.
Mat 22:20 And he saith unto them, Whose [is] this image and superscription?
Mat 22:21 They say unto him, Caesar's. Then saith he unto them, [You]Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's.
Jhn 19:12 And from thenceforth Pilate sought to release him: but the Jews cried out, saying, If thou let this man go, thou art not Caesar's friend: whosoever maketh himself a king speaketh against Caesar.
Jhn 19:15 But they cried out, Away with [him], away with [him], crucify him. Pilate saith unto them, Shall I crucify your King? The chief priests answered, We have no king but Caesar.
Hi EndtimesDeut32/70AD,
With all those scriptures I'm just not sure of your application. Are you suggesting that 'whosoever' only implies to 'them' the Jewish Pharisees?
That Jesus is saying to them that through their own laws they themselves are guilty of committing adultery by putting away their wife. Hence the question of the exception it must be within the laws and the only one mentioned of the divorcement letter is in Deu.24:1.
Matthew is showning this exception which is only in his book again has references to putting away of Mary by the Law of Marriage. The Marriage laws consist of the betroth of a wife in Deu.23 'save for fornication'. So this must be the context of what the words 'except for fornication' which would be found just [legally right] for Joseph was a just man.
I curious to fine where the allowance to divorce and remarry would be found in the new testament. All I see is those that speak of oneness in the likes of Luke 16:18 and Mark 10:1-12 which ommitting of any exception. And Paul's writtings which speaks of the law of Marriage to remain married until death.1 Cor.7:39-40. Even in Paul's principles of marriage to a believer with an non-believer to allow them to leave but in no way given any positive indication that the believer can remarry. 1 Cor.7:1-16.
So if you will please explan your reasoning with those passages, thanks.
I wanted to give the way my church has determined the 'classifcation of adultery'. So that we may examine and study the parameters.
The Church further asserts that the home, including the extended family, is to be guided by love, discipline, and other nurturing aspects as taught in God’s Word. Because the Church is committed to the sanctity of marriage and human life, we diligently stand against abortion, incest, abuse, euthanasia, adultery, divorce, homosexuality, and lesbianism, which we believe are contrary to God’s original design as expressed in His Word. All biblically unlawful unions such as same sex, incestuous, or polygamous marriages are renounced by the Church even if they are recognized as legal by civil governments.
DIVORCE AND REMARRIAGE
Concerning 'divorce' in the above context, the Church means the breaking of a legitimate, lawful, biblical marriage and holds fi rmly to the principle that such divorces are not God’s will, especially between Christians. Forgiveness, reconciliation, and healing should be sought as a fi rst priority in order to preserve marriages and prevent divorce. The Church also recognizes that despite biblical teaching and honest human effort, divorces do occur sometimes against the will of one or the other party. Therefore, the Church recognizes (in a pastoral sense) those causes, in addition to death, that would be recognized as ending a previously valid biblical marriage. In such cases, delineated on the following page, marriage partners would not be classed as adulterers even though remarried:
1.If persons were divorced and remarried for any reason prior to their personal salvation and have demonstrated a willingness to seek restitution (forgiveness from the offended spouse) and restoration where possible.
2.If a divorce occurred because of a spouse’s habitual adulterous behavior and efforts to bring reconciliation are no longer possible.
3.If divorce occurred because of spousal or child abuse, such as incestuous behavior that seriously endangers the life and health of the spouse or family and violates the sanctity of holy matrimony.
Lets examine this first classification of non adultery and see if there is any biblical support.
1.If persons were divorced and remarried for any reason prior to their personal salvation and have demonstrated a willingness to seek restitution (forgiveness from the offended spouse) and restoration where possible.
I fine that scripture implies that if we confess our sins God will forgive.
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
But also we need to recognize that scripture stresses both the importance of confessing (1 John 1:9 ) and forsaking sin ( Ezekiel 18:31 ; Matthew 5:29 ; Ephesians 4:22; and Romans 6:1-4).
Cast away from you all your transgressions, whereby ye have transgressed; and make you a new heart and a new spirit: for why will ye die, O house of Israel?
And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.
That ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts;
It is these of forsaking that I fine ommitted in the classification of number one of non-adultery. The last scripture of Romans 6:1-4 stresses them importance of forsaking thier past sins to not continue there in.
1What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?
2God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
3Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
4Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
I see no differents between the classification of adultery with any other sin that one may have and has been forgiven that they no longer would continue.
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