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CWH
10-27-2010, 04:02 AM
I am interested in the number 153 of the large fishes caught by the apostles after the third time the Lord returned after His death. I believed the 153 fishes is significant but not very sure what it represented.

John21:4Early in the morning, Jesus stood on the shore, but the disciples did not realize that it was Jesus.

5He called out to them, "Friends, haven't you any fish?"
"No," they answered.

6He said, "Throw your net on the right side of the boat and you will find some." When they did, they were unable to haul the net in because of the large number of fish.

7Then the disciple whom Jesus loved said to Peter, "It is the Lord!" As soon as Simon Peter heard him say, "It is the Lord," he wrapped his outer garment around him (for he had taken it off) and jumped into the water. 8The other disciples followed in the boat, towing the net full of fish, for they were not far from shore, about a hundred yards. 9When they landed, they saw a fire of burning coals there with fish on it, and some bread.

10Jesus said to them, "Bring some of the fish you have just caught."

11Simon Peter climbed aboard and dragged the net ashore. It was full of large fish, [B]153, but even with so many the net was not torn. 12Jesus said to them, "Come and have breakfast." None of the disciples dared ask him, "Who are you?" They knew it was the Lord. 13Jesus came, took the bread and gave it to them, and did the same with the fish. 14This was now the third time Jesus appeared to his disciples after he was raised from the dead.

The passage is very similar to one of the parables of Jesus and is obviously related to it:

Matt 13:47-50 "Again, the Kingdom of Heaven is like a dragnet, that was cast into the sea, and gathered some fish of every kind, which, when it was filled, they drew up on the beach. They sat down, and gathered the good into containers, but the bad they threw away. So will it be in the end of the world. The angels will come forth, and separate the wicked from among the righteous, and will cast them into the furnace of fire. There will be the weeping and the gnashing of teeth."

A check on the internet provides some interesting explanations of the 153 large fishes:

http://www.home.earthlink.net/~bobseller1/id89.html

The number 153 is the MASTER triangular number. What is a triangular number? Choose any whole number you wish, other than 1. The number can have as many digits as you wish. Then cube each digit separately and add the cubes together. Keep doing this to the resultant number, and you will find most of them eventually converging into one of three numbers. The numbers are 153, 370 and 371. On a cube-sum result of number 4 (earth), and numbers divisible by 4, ONLY, you will find a “loop back” into its previous series of numbers in that string. Like being caught in a rut. You will find, however in this loop back will be the number 55, or 11 times 5, or grace. (ie, judgment and Grace). The number 370 is about 1/3 of numbers, also. It is thus a kind of dead end, or one of Satan’s other numbers. 371 is the Christ number. It is 1 ( the number of Unity) greater. The numbers 370, 371 are similar to 153, in the sense that they regenerate themselves always, with no retrace, nor reference to any other number.

It is therefore seen that approximately 1/3 of all numbers result in 153, 1/3 result in 371, and 1/3 result in 370, or just a little short, a dead end.. Thus I use the term “triangular” number to describe these.

Remember, to calculate, add the cubes of the individual digits. Thus,

To triangulate the number, 92,

Calculate (9) cubed = 729 and add (2) cubed = 8 to get 737. Then,

Calculate (7) cubed + (3) cubed + (7) cubed to get 713 , then

Calculate (7) cubed + (1) cubed + (7) cubed to get 371.

Continue forever, and you will see that the number 371 thus triangulated will always yield 371. That is, (3)cubed + (7) cubed + (1) cubed = 371

Triangulate the number 1, and you will see it never changes. It’s always 1

Triangulate the number 2, and it will converge to 371, the Son or second of the trinity.

Triangulate the number 3, and we have: (3) cubed = 27. (2) cubed = 8, + (7) cubed = 343, yielding 351 NOTE the mirror image of the Master, 153: Continuing we have

(3) cubed + (5) cubed + (1) cubed = 153!!! And it was after the THIRD iteration!!

It is thus in the third age that Satan will be no more.

Mathematically you figure the number down to the "final outcome" of the number.

Here is the trinity function (to the 3rd power) performed on the number 153.
13 + 53 + 33 =
(1 x 1 x 1) + (5 x 5 x 5) + (3 x 3 x 3) =
1 + 125 + 27 = 153 The final outcome of number 153 is Itself. This is also true for 371 and 370.

Now, let's use the trinity function to see what happens to the number 666.
63 + 63 + 63 =
(6 x 6 x 6) + (6 x 6 x 6) + (6 x 6 x 6) =
216 + 216 + 216 =

648 =
63 + 43 + 83 =
(6 x 6 x 6) + (4 x 4 x 4) + (8 x 8 x 8) = don't give up....
216 + 64 + 512 = we're almost there.

792 =
73 + 93 + 23 =
(7 x 7 x 7) + (9 x 9 x 9) + (2 x 2 x 2) =
343 + 729 + 8 =

1080 =
13 + 03 + 83 + 03 =
(1 x 1 x 1) + (0 x 0 x 0) + (8 x 8 x 8) + (0 x 0 x 0) =
1 + 0 + 512 + 0 =

513 =
53 + 13 + 33 =
(5 x 5 x 5) + (1 x 1 x 1) + ( 3 x 3 x 3) =
125 + 1 + 27 = 153!!!! The final outcome of 666 (Satan) is 153...He is caught in the net, and thrown away!!

Satan (666) is only a cheap imitation of the True Lord. As you can see even from numbers.

The number 153 is the "final outcome" of ALL numbers divisible by 3!

God used that number, 153, specifically.
The numbers that have a "final outcome" of 153 is not actually one-third of all
numbers.... But IS all of the "triangular" numbers.

If 153 is a third of all numbers and fishes represent all peoples of the world and the passage is also related to the parable of the drawnet, is it suggesting that 1/3 of all people will be saved? Anything from gematria?

Many Blessings.

NumberX
10-27-2010, 07:11 AM
Already discussed, by me. Typ it in in the search the forum field.

Mad Mick
10-28-2010, 09:55 AM
Hi Cheow, check out my message to SE on my avatar RE: 17
153 is the 17th triangular number etc.
It shows key links with the gematria of Rev 17, the MYSTERY triangle and Gods promise to Abraham in Gen 17.

It's a clear clue as to the fulfilment time or number associated with the time of the Gentiles.

Jesus told the disciples they will be fishers of men.


PS. I had a prayer and bible read before I came online, here's the scripture I was led to:

Mat 25:5
The bridegroom was a long time in coming, and they all became drowsy and fell asleep.

I thought you'd like that. That was Jesus revealing a parable (to those who will listen) regarding his coming SOON!

Mick

CWH
10-29-2010, 10:02 AM
Hi Cheow, check out my message to SE on my avatar RE: 17
153 is the 17th triangular number etc.
It shows key links with the gematria of Rev 17, the MYSTERY triangle and Gods promise to Abraham in Gen 17.

It's a clear clue as to the fulfilment time or number associated with the time of the Gentiles.

Jesus told the disciples they will be fishers of men.


PS. I had a prayer and bible read before I came online, here's the scripture I was led to:

Mat 25:5
The bridegroom was a long time in coming, and they all became drowsy and fell asleep.

I thought you'd like that. That was Jesus revealing a parable (to those who will listen) regarding his coming SOON!

Mick

Thanks mate for your good insight.:signthankspin:

Number 153 fishes is related to the fishers of men.

I totally agree with you on Mat 25:5, I just can't understand why some people just stubbornly don't understand the meaning of "The bridegroom was a long time in coming". And there are many examples in the parables of Jesus that described someone going for a long time and coming after a long journey..... looks like we are having something here, "He who have ears, let him hear".

http://www.rc.net/wcc/readings/parables.htm

Many Blessings toyou.

gem
10-29-2010, 08:15 PM
I am interested in the number 153 of the large fishes caught by the apostles after the third time the Lord returned after His death. I believed the 153 fishes is significant but not very sure what it represented.
Hi Cheow,
I am curious to know if there are any references to the number 153 in the old testament. I have read somewhere, that in 2Kings 1, King Ahaziah sent to Elijah a captain of fifty with his fifty, three times (=153 men). I wonder if there is any significance.

Hi NumberX,

Already discussed, by me. Typ it in in the search the forum field. I searched for it but I couldn't find it. (interestingly, you had 153 posts!:))

g.

Richard Amiel McGough
10-29-2010, 10:57 PM
Hi NumberX,
I searched for it but I couldn't find it. (interestingly, you had 153 posts!:))

g.
Yep! NumbeX posted his 153rd post answering your question about the number 153.

Better watch out! If you start noticing numerical synchronicities, they start multiplying until you are seeing them everywhere, 24/7. :p

CWH
10-30-2010, 03:47 AM
Hi Cheow,
I am curious to know if there are any references to the number 153 in the old testament. I have read somewhere, that in 2Kings 1, King Ahaziah sent to Elijah a captain of fifty with his fifty, three times (=153 men). I wonder if there is any significance.

Hi NumberX,
I searched for it but I couldn't find it. (interestingly, you had 153 posts!:))

g.

Hi gem,

I am afraid I couldn't give much insight on 153 in OT. Your reference linking 153 to 2Kings is interesting and I will need to do more research into it.. I don't really believe gematria and I am not a gematria nut although I do believe numbers in the Bible may carry some revelations.

The insight I can offer is that the number 153 may be related to the Beast 666:

15+3 = 18

6+6+6 = 18


153 may also represents the 12 apostles and 3 represents the Trinity:

15-3 = 12 (?12 apostles and 3 represents the Trinity). Thus taking the context into consideration, it may mean that if the 12 apostles were to "cast their net right" (i.e. doing the right/good things) they will be able to save a lot of souls and "ensnare" Satan but if they did the wrong/evil things then they will not be able to save any souls or "ensnare" Satan.

5He called out to them, "Friends, haven't you any fish?"
"No," they answered.

6He said, "Throw your net on the right side of the boat and you will find some." When they did, they were unable to haul the net in because of the large number of fish.


Interestingly from the same internet site, it explains in details 153 = Satan and 3 = Trinity:

http://www.home.earthlink.net/~bobseller1/id89.html

Now triangulate these first ten numbers--

Start with

Father 1 =1 A Constant, never changing, self.

Son 2 > 8 >512 > 134 > 92 > 737 > 713 > 371 Thus 2 is caught by 371 ( after the 7th iteration)

Trinity 3 > 27 > 351(SATAN’s Number) > 153 Thus 3, the trinity function passes thru Satan to Finality).

Earth 4 > 64 > 280 > 520 > 133 > 55 > 250 > 133 > 55 (therefore an endless loop- earth thus would never learn, even though grace is present 11 fold) Interesting that this Grace, 5, is found present eleven (judgment) times

Grace 5 > 125> 134 > 92 > 737 > 713 > 371 (The Son, Grace always leads to Him, and after Him, never changing)

Man 6 > 216 > 225 > 141 > 66 > 432 > 99 > 1458 > 702 > 351 >153 (man sees the Trinity only after going through Satan, the mirror image of Christ) This takes 10 (Law)iterations.

Perfect 7 > 343 > 118 > 514 > 190 > 730 > 370: (370 is an endless loop. Man (6) gets in the loop after 6 iterations, but can reach perfection by adding 1 (Father) to get the Son (371) , becoming (8) (new). Man (6) can also take 1 (self) out, becoming 5, and enter by His Grace.

New 8 > 512 > 134 > 92 > 737 > 713 > 371 (on the 6th (man) iteration, we arrive at 371, never changing)

Judgment 9 > 729 > 1080 > 513 > 153 ( Thus, after 4 (earth) iterations we avoid the judgment of the earth by The judge, only through the Grace( 5) of Christ. We can do this by adding Father, 1 to 6, man, thereby being made perfect, 7. Or essentially we take self 1 out of man 6, and enter via His Grace, 5.Satans triangular result number 351, can be seen to be temporary, and seen to be the mirror image of the ‘trinity function“, 153. No news here. 351 is seen to be swallowed up in the end.

Notice also that satan’s mirror image number 351 is 20 short of Christ’s number, 371. 20 is the number of Redemption In both Vallowe and Bullinger



Law, Testimony 10 > 1 and never changes. Thus the Law is also Eternal, and constant. It never changes either.


Hi NumberX,
I searched for it but I couldn't find it. (interestingly, you had 153 posts!:)) Good observation gem!:thumb:

Many Blessings to you.

NumberX
10-30-2010, 11:23 AM
Hi NumberX,
I searched for it but I couldn't find it. (interestingly, you had 153 posts!:))

g.

Yeah haha, you may imitate me with it someday :)
Several other's in this thread are not able to do that anymore.

I was referring to this post (http://www.biblewheel.com/forum/showpost.php?p=20394&postcount=5).

Victor
11-02-2010, 03:02 PM
Hi there Cheow,

I believe that the biblical Author doesn't waste any words. There is obviously a symbolic significance to the Number 153. I think you can start with the article 153 Large Fish (http://www.biblicalhorizons.com/biblical-horizons/no-133-153-large-fish/).

As for gematria, it is meaningful because Scripture itself tells us that it is. See Revelation 13:18. Early Christian Tradition also has given much attention to this exciting subject.

Victor
11-02-2010, 03:04 PM
Hi Cheow,
I am curious to know if there are any references to the number 153 in the old testament. I have read somewhere, that in 2Kings 1, King Ahaziah sent to Elijah a captain of fifty with his fifty, three times (=153 men). I wonder if there is any significance.


Very interesting! I wonder if that means something.



Hi NumberX,
I searched for it but I couldn't find it. (interestingly, you had 153 posts!:))

g.

Now that's striking!

gilgal
11-03-2010, 10:31 AM
Now that's striking!

I wonder what words add up to 153.
Bnai haElohim is one example:
בְנֵי־הָֽאֱלֹהִים
2+50+10 + 5+1+30+5+10+40

Victor
11-03-2010, 01:26 PM
I wonder what words add up to 153.
Bnai haElohim is one example:
בְנֵי־הָֽאֱלֹהִים
2+50+10 + 5+1+30+5+10+40

That's a good one. Christ fished men, and they are the sons of God. The 153 fish are a symbol of the saved. The conclusion of John's Gospel thus links to its introduction via gematria:


Joh 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God (= 153, Hebrew), even to them that believe on his name.
The "sons of God" theme is found in the bookends of the Gospel, like other themes also do.

The article that I mentioned above has another gematrical value for 153. Please also read the Gematria articles on 153 (http://www.biblewheel.com/Gr/GR_153.asp) and 17 (http://www.biblewheel.com/Gr/GR_17.asp). The Number 17 is the value of fisherman and of "to fish".

gem
11-03-2010, 10:04 PM
Better watch out! If you start noticing numerical synchronicities, they start multiplying until you are seeing them everywhere, 24/7. :p

Ha! It's too late for me! I was haunted by the repeating digits for a few years! I kept asking God, "What does it meeaann?!" That doesn't happen now, but I am still very fascinated with numbers!

gilgal
11-03-2010, 10:22 PM
That's a good one. Christ fished men, and they are the sons of God. The 153 fish are a symbol of the saved. The conclusion of John's Gospel thus links to its introduction via gematria:


Joh 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God (= 153, Hebrew), even to them that believe on his name.
The "sons of God" theme is found in the bookends of the Gospel, like other themes also do.

The article that I mentioned above has another gematrical value for 153. Please also read the Gematria articles on 153 (http://www.biblewheel.com/Gr/GR_153.asp) and 17 (http://www.biblewheel.com/Gr/GR_17.asp). The Number 17 is the value of fisherman and of "to fish".
One thing that bothers me is that Sons of God adds up to 153 in Hebrew not in Greek. But something like elect adds up to 144 right?

gem
11-03-2010, 10:23 PM
Yeah haha, you may imitate me with it someday :)
Several other's in this thread are not able to do that anymore.

You're right! I hope I will will notice when it happens!
And thanks for finding that post for me! :signthankspin:

gem
11-03-2010, 10:40 PM
I wonder what words add up to 153.
Bnai haElohim is one example:
בְנֵי־הָֽאֱלֹהִים
2+50+10 + 5+1+30+5+10+40

That is good one!
I just noticed that Rebecca in greek also = 153, and Rebecca means "ensnarer", maybe that is like "net"?

gem
11-03-2010, 10:55 PM
Hi gem,

I am afraid I couldn't give much insight on 153 in OT. Your reference linking 153 to 2Kings is interesting and I will need to do more research into it.. I don't really believe gematria and I am not a gematria nut although I do believe numbers in the Bible may carry some revelations.

The insight I can offer is that the number 153 may be related to the Beast 666:

15+3 = 18

6+6+6 = 18


153 may also represents the 12 apostles and 3 represents the Trinity:

15-3 = 12 (?12 apostles and 3 represents the Trinity). Thus taking the context into consideration, it may mean that if the 12 apostles were to "cast their net right" (i.e. doing the right/good things) they will be able to save a lot of souls and "ensnare" Satan but if they did the wrong/evil things then they will not be able to save any souls or "ensnare" Satan.

5He called out to them, "Friends, haven't you any fish?"
"No," they answered.

6He said, "Throw your net on the right side of the boat and you will find some." When they did, they were unable to haul the net in because of the large number of fish.


Interestingly from the same internet site, it explains in details 153 = Satan and 3 = Trinity:

http://www.home.earthlink.net/~bobseller1/id89.html (http://www.home.earthlink.net/%7Ebobseller1/id89.html)

Now triangulate these first ten numbers--

Start with

Father 1 =1 A Constant, never changing, self.

Son 2 > 8 >512 > 134 > 92 > 737 > 713 > 371 Thus 2 is caught by 371 ( after the 7th iteration)

Trinity 3 > 27 > 351(SATAN’s Number) > 153 Thus 3, the trinity function passes thru Satan to Finality).

Earth 4 > 64 > 280 > 520 > 133 > 55 > 250 > 133 > 55 (therefore an endless loop- earth thus would never learn, even though grace is present 11 fold) Interesting that this Grace, 5, is found present eleven (judgment) times

Grace 5 > 125> 134 > 92 > 737 > 713 > 371 (The Son, Grace always leads to Him, and after Him, never changing)

Man 6 > 216 > 225 > 141 > 66 > 432 > 99 > 1458 > 702 > 351 >153 (man sees the Trinity only after going through Satan, the mirror image of Christ) This takes 10 (Law)iterations.

Perfect 7 > 343 > 118 > 514 > 190 > 730 > 370: (370 is an endless loop. Man (6) gets in the loop after 6 iterations, but can reach perfection by adding 1 (Father) to get the Son (371) , becoming (8) (new). Man (6) can also take 1 (self) out, becoming 5, and enter by His Grace.

New 8 > 512 > 134 > 92 > 737 > 713 > 371 (on the 6th (man) iteration, we arrive at 371, never changing)

Judgment 9 > 729 > 1080 > 513 > 153 ( Thus, after 4 (earth) iterations we avoid the judgment of the earth by The judge, only through the Grace( 5) of Christ. We can do this by adding Father, 1 to 6, man, thereby being made perfect, 7. Or essentially we take self 1 out of man 6, and enter via His Grace, 5.Satans triangular result number 351, can be seen to be temporary, and seen to be the mirror image of the ‘trinity function', 153. No news here. 351 is seen to be swallowed up in the end.

Notice also that satan’s mirror image number 351 is 20 short of Christ’s number, 371. 20 is the number of Redemption In both Vallowe and Bullinger



Law, Testimony 10 > 1 and never changes. Thus the Law is also Eternal, and constant. It never changes either.

Good observation gem!:thumb:

Many Blessings to you.
Hi Cheow,
Wow! There is so much information on the link you posted. Also on the links from Victor and NumberX.
In them are some interesting links to the OT. I will try to post them here.

gilgal
11-03-2010, 10:56 PM
That is good one!
I just noticed that Rebecca in greek also = 153, and Rebecca means "ensnarer", maybe that is like "net"?

That's right
רִבְקָה
However adds up to 307

But Ensnarer seems close to subplanter or scoundrel which is Jacob or James. Jacob was Rebekah's son. Whereas the book of James lies on Spoke 15. James 3 or 15:3 talks about the tongue.

Victor
11-04-2010, 06:10 AM
One thing that bothers me is that Sons of God adds up to 153 in Hebrew not in Greek. But something like elect adds up to 144 right?

I understand. The Gospel is written in Greek and "sons of God" = 153 is in Hebrew. But I remember that the Author of John is the same who authored the rest of the Bible and so I find a link, though it doesn't seem very strong at first look.

And there is The Elect = 144. See the GR entry.

Mad Mick
11-04-2010, 10:42 AM
Cheow, I was drawn to 2 Peter.
In the wheel it falls under the letter "P". Positioned in the 3rd Tier the 17th spoke. Interestingly the letter consists of 3 chapters finishing on the 17th verse.

Peter seems to show more emphasis on patience and reiterates past and future events as factual not symbolic.

Contrary to this 1stJohn follows with his classic line that we are in the last hour. What is interesting is that he later states:

2 John 1:7 (New International Version 1984)
Many deceivers, who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh, have gone out into the world. Any such person is the deceiver and the antichrist.

The term "as coming" meaning future tense, is not reciprocated with many of the other versions.

The original King James says "is come,"
the NKJ says "is coming,"
then the NMKJ does a backflip and reverts to "is come."

No wonder there's so much confusion!

Can someone clarify what the Greek states, without bias please!
Thanks
Mick

CWH
11-04-2010, 08:57 PM
Thanks mate,.

Good point:thumb: I like the part that you posted:

2 John 1:7 (New International Version 1984)
Many deceivers, who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh, have gone out into the world. Any such person is the deceiver and the antichrist.
The term "as coming" meaning future tense, is not reciprocated with many of the other versions


Let's see how our friends meet your challenge.

BTW the topic is 153 large fishes meaning the whole (153) of matured (large)humans/nations (fishes). So the "fishermen" dragged their net full of matured nations/men of the world and sort them out into evil and righteous. This is how I interpret the parable of the net:

Matthew 13:47 "Again, the kingdom of heaven is like a net which was thrown into the sea and gathered fish of every kind; 48 when it was full, men drew it ashore and sat down and sorted the good into vessels but threw away the bad. 49 So it will be at the close of the age. The angels will come out and separate the evil from the righteous,

Many Blessings.

gilgal
11-05-2010, 08:55 PM
Thanks mate,.

Good point:thumb: I like the part that you posted:

2 John 1:7 (New International Version 1984)
Many deceivers, who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh, have gone out into the world. Any such person is the deceiver and the antichrist.
The term "as coming" meaning future tense, is not reciprocated with many of the other versions


Let's see how our friends meet your challenge.

BTW the topic is 153 large fishes meaning the whole (153) of matured (large)humans/nations (fishes). So the "fishermen" dragged their net full of matured nations/men of the world and sort them out into evil and righteous. This is how I interpret the parable of the net:

Matthew 13:47 "Again, the kingdom of heaven is like a net which was thrown into the sea and gathered fish of every kind; 48 when it was full, men drew it ashore and sat down and sorted the good into vessels but threw away the bad. 49 So it will be at the close of the age. The angels will come out and separate the evil from the righteous,

Many Blessings.

nice one, Mat 13:47!

gem
11-06-2010, 12:04 PM
That's right
רִבְקָה
However adds up to 307

But Ensnarer seems close to subplanter or scoundrel which is Jacob or James. Jacob was Rebekah's son. Whereas the book of James lies on Spoke 15. James 3 or 15:3 talks about the tongue.Oops! I meant to say the Greek form of Rebecca = 153.

gilgal
11-06-2010, 01:34 PM
Oops! I meant to say the Greek form of Rebecca = 153.
That's right:
Ῥεβέκκα Rhebekka (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Rom&c=9&t=KJV#conc/10)
100+5+2+5+20+20+1=153

number
12-06-2010, 05:47 AM
hello Cheow
The number 153, (seems unnecessarily quantified?) in John 21:11, is the number of fish Simon Peter caught in his net. BUT…

Perhaps it has a correspondence with 153 courses of masonry in the Great pyramid of Giza.

The exterior of the Great pyramid consists of blocks of limestone, a total of 203 courses/levels tapering to a platform top.

The floor of the King’s chamber is at level 50 (or 153 from the top).

Thus, the 49th course supports the Kings floor plus the other ‘153 ‘ (total 154).

The relationship between 154 and 49 can be written as 154 : 49 or 154/49.
Since each number is divisible by 7, then 154/49 reduces to 22/7.

22/7 is the approximate value of ‘pi’ used in secondary school maths lessons involving circles and spheres.
Pi is revealed.

The sum of the first 17 consecutive numbers, 1+2+3+……17, is 153.[/COLOR][/B]

The ancient Maya had reverence for ‘17’, the number they assigned to C’haban, one of their gods.
C’haban is "he who transforms from human to a god when he shakes off the ash clinging to him from the material world.

gilgal
12-06-2010, 03:51 PM
hello Cheow
The number 153, (seems unnecessarily quantified?) in John 21:11, is the number of fish Simon Peter caught in his net. BUT…

Perhaps it has a correspondence with 153 courses of masonry in the Great pyramid of Giza.

The exterior of the Great pyramid consists of blocks of limestone, a total of 203 courses/levels tapering to a platform top.

The floor of the King’s chamber is at level 50 (or 153 from the top).

Thus, the 49th course supports the Kings floor plus the other ‘153 ‘ (total 154).

The relationship between 154 and 49 can be written as 154 : 49 or 154/49.
Since each number is divisible by 7, then 154/49 reduces to 22/7.

22/7 is the approximate value of ‘pi’ used in secondary school maths lessons involving circles and spheres.
Pi is revealed.

The sum of the first 17 consecutive numbers, 1+2+3+……17, is 153.[/COLOR][/B]

The ancient Maya had reverence for ‘17’, the number they assigned to C’haban, one of their gods.
C’haban is "he who transforms from human to a god when he shakes off the ash clinging to him from the material world.

The Gospel John is spoke 21.
153 = spoke 216

CWH
01-18-2011, 08:15 AM
The Gospel John is spoke 21.
153 = spoke 216

Just to add, 153 is related to judgement and that is exactly what the caught 153 fishes is all about:

1+5+3 = 9

15+3 = 18

15-3 = 12

spoke 216 = 2+1+6 = 9

21+ 6 = 27

21-6 = 15

The meaning of Number 9, 18, 27, 12, 15 :
Nine : 9 - Biblical Meaning of Number is judgment or finality. Basically, it's used when judging man and all of his works. This number has also been used to describe the perfect movement of God.

Twelve : 12 - Christian Numerology meaning deals with governmental perfection. This number has also been used to describe God's chosen people. Plus anything that is made up of rules has this number associated with it.

Fifteen : 15 - Christian Numerology meaning deals with the energy that is found within the acts of divine grace.

Eighteen : 18 - Christian Numerology meaning deals in reference that deals with bondage, slavery, captivity and serfdom

Twenty Seven : 27 - Christian Numerology meaning deals with expectancy of getting divine approval or divine redemption

Many Blessings.