The Integration of the Bible and the Universe

[Rose]

In a world of change where human consciousness continues to rise, does it not stand to reason (the quality built into our being, and promoted in the Bible, Isa.1:18 Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD:...) that if the Bible is truly the Word of God it too would continue to unveil a deeper understanding into our existence?

The only way the scientifically minded community of people will be able to accept the Bible as part of our evolutionary process is to see the Bible as a well designed structure that itself grows with our understanding of the Universe. That is the only way man using his ever expanding knowledge and conscience could hold the Bible to be a work of God.

The only thing that has ever given man answers to his existence has been discovery through science. From the questions of how a life is created in the womb, to why there is night and day….the answers are all contained in the scientific method of digging deep into our world to understand the order in which it operates.

Now with the revelation of the Bible Wheel (http://www.biblewheel.com/wheel/intro.asp) that same process of discovery begins….if the Bible is truly designed by God it will manifest the same properties of unfolding knowledge as does the rest of creation. It will grow and blossom as an opening flower revealing its inner beauty as each petal unfolds.

The Bible is made discoverable by the way in which it is written….it is continually tugging at us to unlock its mysteries and solve its contradictions by pulling us deeper and deeper into its meaning, which in turn inspires our minds to keep reaching for answers to the endless questions that arise because of that. In order to search for answers one must first have complete freedom to explore any and all paths that may lead to truth, without falling under the bondage that so easily ensnares many Christians when they get trapped in man-made doctrines of the faith.

So my friends….spread your wings and fly, leave no stone unturned and let the fragrance of every flower touch your senses. Explore every path, and enjoy to the fullest the beauty God’s creation….as you uncover its secretes.


Rose

[Bob May]

In a world of change where human consciousness continues to rise, does it not stand to reason (the quality built into our being, and promoted in the Bible, Isa.1:18 Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD:...) that if the Bible is truly the Word of God it too would continue to unveil a deeper understanding into our existence?

The only way the scientifically minded community of people will be able to accept the Bible as part of our evolutionary process is to see the Bible as a well designed structure that itself grows with our understanding of the Universe. That is the only way man using his ever expanding knowledge and conscience could hold the Bible to be a work of God.

The only thing that has ever given man answers to his existence has been discovery through science. From the questions of how a life is created in the womb, to why there is night and day….the answers are all contained in the scientific method of digging deep into our world to understand the order in which it operates.

Now with the revelation of the Bible Wheel (http://www.biblewheel.com/wheel/intro.asp) that same process of discovery begins….if the Bible is truly designed by God it will manifest the same properties of unfolding knowledge as does the rest of creation. It will grow and blossom as an opening flower revealing its inner beauty as each petal unfolds.

The Bible is made discoverable by the way in which it is written….it is continually tugging at us to unlock its mysteries and solve its contradictions by pulling us deeper and deeper into its meaning, which in turn inspires our minds to keep reaching for answers to the endless questions that arise because of that. In order to search for answers one must first have complete freedom to explore any and all paths that may lead to truth, without falling under the bondage that so easily ensnares many Christians when they get trapped in man-made doctrines of the faith.
So my friends….spread your wings and fly, leave no stone unturned and let the fragrance of every flower touch your senses. Explore every path, and enjoy to the fullest the beauty God’s creation….as you uncover its secretes.


Rose

Hi Rose,

Good invitation.
Somthing occured to me this morning when I was just waking up. A lot of disputes and misunderstandings on this website and in Christianity in general seem to hinge on our inability to see another viewpoint. As if, because we have an idea of what is, or have come to some conclusion as to what some piece of scripture means, that that is ALL that it means.

The bible was/is written on levels or layers. (A flower as you put it) And what may be true on one layer may also be true on another layer, but after a different manner.

Here is what I thought. Based upon the bible wheel being a description or map of the Word of God has anyone looked at it based upon these lines in the book of Revelation;

Re 1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

Re 1:11 Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, ...

Cycle 1 Torah, Widom and Old Testament History = That which was.

Cycle 2 Major Prophets, Minor Prophets and NT History = That which shall be.

Then there is the Cross and the fulfillment of the promises.

Cycle 3 New Testament Epistles = That which IS.


But here is the rub. This is he outward/World view,..the appearance of things.
The individual also has to come through the same process.

Also the law and the prophets BOTH prophecied. So did the epistles if you apply them to people (us) who were not born as yet when they were written.

Jacob saw a ladder and said "surely God IS in this place and I knew it not." Present time

Jesus said to Nathaniel that he would see greater things...angels ascending and descending upon the son of man. Present (at that time) prophecy of a future event for Nathaniel. He said it right after telling him he saw him under a tree, relating it back to Jacob's vision.

Joh 1:48 Nathanael saith unto him, Whence knowest thou me? Jesus answered and said unto him, Before that Philip called thee, when thou wast under the fig tree, I saw thee.

Joh 1:49 Nathanael answered and saith unto him, Rabbi, thou art the Son of God; thou art the King of Israel.

Mt 27:54 Now when the centurion, and they that were with him, watching Jesus, saw the earthquake, and those things that were done, they feared greatly, saying, Truly this was the Son of God All three experiences have one thing in common (besides the tree image.)
They all are verifying the NOW presence of God.

The I Am. Their Will Be's and their have been's have boiled down to This Is and He Is. And that He is here and now.

All three had moved from theory to Knowedge in the biblcal sense of the word.

So, in effect, what I am saying is that the shall be's and have been's tend to be all moving us all towards the IS, the Now.

Just some thoughts,
Bob

[gilgal]

As I read the book of Revelation I find many associations and patterns.

There are the pattern of 7s:
7 churches;
7 trumpets;
7 vials.

There are things that you've never read before:
the number 666 written as 3 letters: Xi Chi Stigma or 600 + 60 + 6, which nowhere in scripture mentions the application of Gemetria within the text, nor does it explain. But it's there.

There are phrases where you associate the 7 churches to the rest of the book such as the phrase:


Words Searched For: come + as a thief



Revelation 3
3 Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.

Revelation 16
15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.


Then there's the association of the book of Revelation with the other books of the Bible.


Words Searched For: come + as a thief



1 Thessalonians 5
2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.

Revelation 3
3 Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.