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gilgal
08-02-2010, 03:12 AM
http://www.forerunner.com/forerunner/X0664_Gog_and_Magog.html
God put HOOKS (Hebrew word CHECHIM) in to the Russian Bear jaw
Chechim/ Chechnya means hook?
gilgal
08-04-2010, 12:35 PM
The word חַחִים is said to be the root of the name Chechen.
Both Gog in Ezekiel 38 and Sennacherib in both 2Kings 19 and Isaiah 36 are mentioned with this word:
2Ki 19:28 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/search/translationResults.cfm?Criteria=hook&t=KJV) Because thy rage against me and thy tumult is come up into mine ears, therefore I will put my hook in thy nose, and my bridle in thy lips, and I will turn thee back by the way by which thou camest.
Isa 37:29 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Isa&c=37&t=KJV#29) Because thy rage against me, and thy tumult, is come up into mine ears, therefore will I put my hook in thy nose, and my bridle in thy lips, and I will turn thee back by the way by which thou camest.
Eze 38:4 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Eze&c=38&t=KJV#comm/4) And I will turn thee back, and put hooks into thy jaws, and I will bring thee forth, and all thine army, horses and horsemen, all of them clothed with all sorts [of armour, even] a great company [with] bucklers and shields, all of them handling swords:
Gog is said to be the root of the word Causasian (http://souf-iss.blogspot.com/2009/11/gog-and-magog-how-they-invaded-world.html):
http://www.dailywritingtips.com/wp-content/uploads/caucasus.gif (http://www.dailywritingtips.com/word-of-the-day-caucasian/)
The word חַחִים is said to be the root of the name Chechen.
Both Gog in Ezekiel 38 and Sennacherib in both 2Kings 19 and Isaiah 36 are mentioned with this word:
Gog is said to be the root of the word Causasian (http://souf-iss.blogspot.com/2009/11/gog-and-magog-how-they-invaded-world.html):
http://www.dailywritingtips.com/wp-content/uploads/caucasus.gif (http://www.dailywritingtips.com/word-of-the-day-caucasian/)
Brilliant gilgal.:thumb: I am interested to know about Magog... anything about Magog being the present day Russia or China. In fact, Magog sounds a little like Mongol?
Many Blessings.
gilgal
08-06-2010, 12:49 PM
Brilliant gilgal.:thumb: I am interested to know about Magog... anything about Magog being the present day Russia or China. In fact, Magog sounds a little like Mongol?
Many Blessings.
http://muslimvillage.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/darial-gorge-2.jpg (http://www.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=http://muslimvillage.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/darial-gorge-2.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/showthread.php%3F57745-Is-Dajjal-coming-soon/page3&usg=__TuqO6zxKoRE1N2o4fR86P2T-zms=&h=606&w=944&sz=74&hl=en&start=0&tbnid=CN4vPwqx7YXB1M:&tbnh=126&tbnw=164&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dmajuj%2Bwall%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26cli ent%3Dfirefox-a%26sa%3DN%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26biw%3D1440%26bih%3D675%26tbs%3Disch: 1&um=1&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=295&vpy=80&dur=2941&hovh=180&hovw=280&tx=46&ty=203&oei=XGJcTLWYFM-5sgaex_DABQ&page=1&ndsp=31&ved=1t:429,r:1,s:0)
Can you locate the wall of Majuj? or Magog? I found this mag but I don't know where this is or what exactly it is.
Gog is the root word for Caucasus, so I've heard. As I was searching there were so many theories coming from different religious groups/denominations.
There are the Khazars, from which the European Jews are descended from.
Stalin was Georgian if I'm not mistaken, from that region. Armenia, I believe goes by the name House of Togarmah (Torkomadun - House of Torkom).
Vladimir Zhirinovsky a politician had bragged that if he was elected in the place of Boris Yeltsin he would invade Israel. But his name disappeared from the media when people found out he was Jewish himself!
Should we look at:
the geographical location of Gog?
the descendants of Gog?
or what?
I wonder if Assyria was located in the Gog's region?
Because God mentioned in either Isaiah 14, 36, 37 or 2Kings 18,19 or 2Chronicles 32 (I'm not sure off the top of my head) that this was predetermined by God long ago (Maybe Isaiah 14 in the end).
Also what connection is there between Gog and Esther? One similarity is that just as Haman was the enemy of the Jews and God was for the Jews, Gog was the enemy of the Jews and God was for the Jews and had hidden his face until this moment (Ezekiel 39 and Esther). Sther Panim (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Eze&c=39&t=KJV#conc/29) means hidden face.
gilgal
08-06-2010, 12:56 PM
Wasn't the Great wall of china known as the wall of Juj and Majuj?
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_rlTOI_eC7dY/SL6t0WCFCNI/AAAAAAAAA9Y/kiEUYIA60gw/s400/08-2180-great-wall-china.jpg
Wasn't the Great wall of china known as the wall of Juj and Majuj?
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_rlTOI_eC7dY/SL6t0WCFCNI/AAAAAAAAA9Y/kiEUYIA60gw/s400/08-2180-great-wall-china.jpg
Hi gilgal,
I don't know where you got the idea that the wall of juj and majuj is the great wall of China? From the internet, juj and majuj is Islam's equivalent of Gog and Magog which according to the Muslims were the disbelieving tribes of the descendants of Adam and they or their nations will appear before the endtimes:
http://www.islamawareness.net/Yajuj/disbelivers.html
Many Blessings
gilgal
08-07-2010, 07:02 PM
Hi gilgal,
I don't know where you got the idea that the wall of juj and majuj is the great wall of China? From the internet, juj and majuj is Islam's equivalent of Gog and Magog which according to the Muslims were the disbelieving tribes of the descendants of Adam and they or their nations will appear before the endtimes:
http://www.islamawareness.net/Yajuj/disbelivers.html
Many Blessings
ok. but there was a wall...
gilgal
08-08-2010, 09:14 PM
Ezekiel 38
1And the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,
2Son of man, set thy face against Gog [Caucasian], the land of Magog, the chief [Rosh - Russia] prince of Meshech [Moscow] and Tubal [Tbilisi - Georgia], and prophesy against him,
3And say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal:
4And I will turn thee back, and put hooks into thy jaws, and I will bring thee forth, and all thine army, horses and horsemen, all of them clothed with all sorts of armour, even a great company with bucklers and shields, all of them handling swords:
5Persia, Ethiopia, and Libya with them; all of them with shield and helmet:
6Gomer [Germany], and all his bands; the house of Togarmah [Torkoma dun] of the north quarters, and all his bands: and many people with thee.
This is how I interpret this.
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