King Saul's beginning

[gilgal]

I admire King Saul's beginning. He was shy at first but God used Nahash (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=1Sa&c=11&t=KJV#1) the King of the Ammonites to make Israel fear him.

At first the Israelites were mocking him:

1Sa 10:27
But the children of Belial said, How shall this man save us? And they despised him, and brought him no presents. But he held his peace.
But later his word was as the word of God:

1Sa 14:26
And when the people were come into the wood, behold, the honey dropped; but no man put his hand to his mouth: for the people feared the oath.

What I'm wandering for our time we see people who mock us, despise us. Is it possible for us to put fear in their hearts? What I mean is, I've seen Christians in churches, the men I've seen act like sissies, cowards.To the world we seem like the salt that has lost its' flavor.

When people ridicule us should we be cry-babies, be quiet or be angry and talk back? or what?

[Victor]

Cowardice is a great problem in our times. Men do not act like men. No wonder quite a few people don't like to go to church. Such a shame.

Where is the passion for Truth? For the Faith? All sorts of scandals appear and they stay silent.

Of course we should also learn to discern that there is a time to speak and a time to stay quiet. There are some situations in which there is no benefit in arguing. The sad thing is when the good men keep silent when the Faith is attacked by anti-religion people and they dismiss it by saying that "their claims are not worth responding to".

[gilgal]

Cowardice is a great problem in our times. Men do not act like men. No wonder quite a few people don't like to go to church. Such a shame.

Where is the passion for Truth? For the Faith? All sorts of scandals appear and they stay silent.

Of course we should also learn to discern that there is a time to speak and a time to stay quiet. There are some situations in which there is no benefit in arguing. The sad thing is when the good men keep silent when the Faith is attacked by anti-religion people and they dismiss it by saying that "their claims are not worth responding to".
Victor, this one's for you then:
http://www.asis.com:8000/Illuminati/Illuminati_1.mp3

[Victor]

Victor, this one's for you then:
http://www.asis.com:8000/Illuminati/Illuminati_1.mp3

I listened to it. It is in fact the most complex subject one can study. It is often misunderstood, there are too many factors to be taken into consideration, some aspects are sometimes exagerated, but the idea of "one world governance" is true. It is right under our noses but it seems to be too big and out of proportion to be true.

In the case of the audio, it gives a wide overview, but he doesn't give evidence for anything, he just states the thesis. There are some things that I haven't learned much about yet, so I don't know how truthful they are (like "thirteen bloodlines", "Merovingian dinasty", etc.)

It is a tough job to first learn about all of this, and much more to denounce it. We Christians often have a limited view of the phenomenon - since it is too big - and thus we often expose only parts of the problem. We are often ignorant and don't now that things so distinct such as environmentalism, the homosexual movement, political Islamism, wordwide "financial controls" and "stimulus" to avoid "crisis" and so many other things are tied up by common bonds - powerful people who want to achieve a "new world order".

[gilgal]

I listened to it. It is in fact the most complex subject one can study. It is often misunderstood, there are too many factors to be taken into consideration, some aspects are sometimes exagerated, but the idea of "one world governance" is true. It is right under our noses but it seems to be too big and out of proportion to be true.

In the case of the audio, it gives a wide overview, but he doesn't give evidence for anything, he just states the thesis. There are some things that I haven't learned much about yet, so I don't know how truthful they are (like "thirteen bloodlines", "Merovingian dinasty", etc.)

It is a tough job to first learn about all of this, and much more to denounce it. We Christians often have a limited view of the phenomenon - since it is too big - and thus we often expose only parts of the problem. We are often ignorant and don't now that things so distinct such as environmentalism, the homosexual movement, political Islamism, wordwide "financial controls" and "stimulus" to avoid "crisis" and so many other things are tied up by common bonds - powerful people who want to achieve a "new world order".

But you can't trust anything that you would want to invest in it...except the Word of God.