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CWH
11-07-2009, 07:33 PM
From :
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/environment/story/78021.html

Global warming would be bad news for all those amber waves of grain, and for the corn and soybeans that are plentiful throughout the Midwest.

"The grain-filling period" -- the time when the seed grows and matures -- "of wheat and other small grains shortens dramatically with rising temperatures. Analysis of crop responses suggests that even moderate increases in temperature will decrease yields of corn, wheat, sorghum, bean, rice, cotton and peanut crops," according to "Global Climate Change Impacts in the United States," a report based on a comprehensive review of scientific literature and government data by a team of American scientists.

Other details from the study:

- Plant winter hardiness zones -- each of which represents a 10-degree Fahrenheit change in minimum temperature -- in the Midwest are likely to shift by a half- to a full zone about every 30 years. By the end of the century, plants now associated with the Southeast are likely to become established throughout the Midwest.

- "Higher temperatures will mean a longer growing season for crops that do well in the heat, such as melon, okra and sweet potato, but a shorter growing season for crops more suited to cooler conditions, such as potato, lettuce, broccoli and spinach."

- Fruits that require long winter chilling periods, such as apples, will experience declines.

- "Higher temperatures also cause plants to use more water to keep cool . . . . But fruits, vegetables and grains can suffer even under well-watered conditions if temperatures exceed the maximum level for pollen viability in a particular plant; if temperatures exceed the threshold for that plant, it won't produce seed and so it won't reproduce."

- Climate change is expected to result in less frequent but more intense rainfall. One consequence is expected to be delayed spring planting. In the Midwest, heavy downpours are now twice as frequent as they were a century ago.

In the Great Plains, most water comes from the High Plains aquifer. Water withdrawals outpace natural recharge. Increasing temperatures, faster evaporation rates and more sustained droughts will stress the water resource further.

Richard Amiel McGough
11-07-2009, 07:48 PM
From :
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/environment/story/78021.html

Global warming would be bad news for all those amber waves of grain, and for the corn and soybeans that are plentiful throughout the Midwest.

"The grain-filling period" -- the time when the seed grows and matures -- "of wheat and other small grains shortens dramatically with rising temperatures. Analysis of crop responses suggests that even moderate increases in temperature will decrease yields of corn, wheat, sorghum, bean, rice, cotton and peanut crops," according to "Global Climate Change Impacts in the United States," a report based on a comprehensive review of scientific literature and government data by a team of American scientists.

Other details from the study:

- Plant winter hardiness zones -- each of which represents a 10-degree Fahrenheit change in minimum temperature -- in the Midwest are likely to shift by a half- to a full zone about every 30 years. By the end of the century, plants now associated with the Southeast are likely to become established throughout the Midwest.

- "Higher temperatures will mean a longer growing season for crops that do well in the heat, such as melon, okra and sweet potato, but a shorter growing season for crops more suited to cooler conditions, such as potato, lettuce, broccoli and spinach."

- Fruits that require long winter chilling periods, such as apples, will experience declines.

- "Higher temperatures also cause plants to use more water to keep cool . . . . But fruits, vegetables and grains can suffer even under well-watered conditions if temperatures exceed the maximum level for pollen viability in a particular plant; if temperatures exceed the threshold for that plant, it won't produce seed and so it won't reproduce."

- Climate change is expected to result in less frequent but more intense rainfall. One consequence is expected to be delayed spring planting. In the Midwest, heavy downpours are now twice as frequent as they were a century ago.

In the Great Plains, most water comes from the High Plains aquifer. Water withdrawals outpace natural recharge. Increasing temperatures, faster evaporation rates and more sustained droughts will stress the water resource further.
Ha! That's hilarious!

Try growing wheat in Antarctica.

The truth is that plants generally grow better in warmer climates. Ever see a tropical forest?

There's a reason people use greenhouses. And there is a reason professional horticulturalists buy CO2 generators to increase the levels of the dreaded greenhouse gas! Here (http://www.plantlightinghydroponics.com/co2-generators-c-75.html) is the truth that none of the global warming alarmists seem to understand:
Green plants use carbon dioxide ( CO2 ) and water in the presence of light to synthesize organic compounds. Plants convert organic compounds into elements that it can use (food). This process is called photosynthesis. The ambient level of CO2 in the earth's atmosphere is generally between 300 and 600 ppm. Most plants receive far more water and energy in the form of sunshine than they can use. Increasing CO2 in the growing area will let the plant use the excess water and energy that is stored in the leaves. The result is a substantial increase in the growth rate of any plant that uses chlorophyll in the process of photosynthesis. Choose electronic CO2 generator or a CO2 regulator to provide CO2 to your plants
Global warming alarmists are just another doomsday cult just like the folks who constantly say that we are in the "end times." They are seeking to control the economy.

The whole "climate change" thing is a total farce. The "scientific" community will excommunicate anyone who publishes facts that disagree with their religious dogma.

We live in interesting times - even the weather is politicized now.

We know the global warming doomsdayers are lying because they only predict doom and gloom from warming. The climate is not that one-sided. There would be both benefits and problems ... even if their false predictions were true.

Richard

CWH
11-07-2009, 08:22 PM
So Richard, you prefer warm weather, No winter, No ice on the polar caps and mountains, Higher sea-level, poorer quality of air, more cyclones and rain etc, That's interesting. Do you realized what higher CO2 in the air will mean? Try breathing high dose of CO2 for sometime and you will know what I mean.

The earth is resilient and will try to cope with global warming but there will be a threshold in which disasters will follow if the threshold is reached.

I don't think there is economic or political motives in Global warming alarmist. What do they really gain? I do hope you look at global warming more seriously. There is a Chinese saying that goes like this:
"Do not be afraid of 10,000 (factors), but do be afraid of What If".

Applying this saying here, "You may cite reasons why you don't believe in Global warming and its effects, but what if Global warming is real, its effects may be too late and irreversible".

Many Blessings.

Richard Amiel McGough
11-07-2009, 08:48 PM
So Richard, you prefer warm weather, No winter, No ice on the polar caps and mountains, Higher sea-level, poorer quality of air, more cyclones and rain etc, That's interesting. Do you realized what higher CO2 in the air will mean? Try breathing high dose of CO2 for sometime and you will know what I mean.

You have been misinformed on many points. First, you could breathe extremely high CO2 with no harmful affects whatsoever. Don't you know that with each breath you exhale CO2 that is over a 100 times the ppm of the atmosphere? And doctors use it (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_dioxide) to correct certain problems:
In medicine, up to 5% carbon dioxide (130 times the atmospheric concentration) is added to pure oxygen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxygen) for stimulation of breathing after apnea (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apnea) and to stabilize the O2/CO2 balance in blood.
CO2 is ABSOLUTELY HARMLESS for humans to breath even when it is a hundred times higher concentration than will ever be seen on planet earth in the worst case scenario of the global warming doomsday cult.

And there is no scientific basis whatsoever for the dire warnings. There is ABSOLUTELY NO SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE that man-made CO2 emissions have had any effect on the environment. All the doomsday scenarios are based on extremely faulty computer models. There is no direct evidence supporting the dogma of the doomsday cult.



The earth is resilient and will try to cope with global warming but there will be a threshold in which disasters will follow if the threshold is reached.

The "air" does not "try" to do anything. The air does not have a will. It is dead matter.

God designed the earth as an extremely robust self-regulating system. If he had not, we never would have made it this far. When temps rise, the huge volume of water in the oceans evaporates and makes clouds that cool the system. The computer models don't take this into account properly because they were designed to confirm the dogma of the doomsday cult.



I don't think there is economic or political motives in Global warming alarmist. What do they really gain?

They have EVERYTHING to gain, and that is exactly what they are aiming to get. The are seeking total economic and political control.

Gore is set to be the first global warming BILLIONAIRE. It was all over the news just last week. See this (http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&ct2=us%2F0_0_s_1_0_t&usg=AFQjCNHDdiQ-gBXhchPo3bpidURNrCb4Nw&cid=1462902705&ei=4j72SpCjOIPmlASH-I4-&rt=SEARCH&vm=STANDARD&url=http%3A%2F%2Flatimesblogs.latimes.com%2Fwashin gton%2F2009%2F11%2Fal-gore-worlds-first-carbon-billionaire.html).

Global warming is the leftist greenies dream come true. They have been looking for a way to attack modern civilisation for decades. They think they finally have found the ultimate sledge hammer to desgtroy their arch-enemy: capitialism and big oil.



I do hope you look at global warming more seriously. There is a Chinese saying that goes like this:
"Do not be afraid of 10,000 (factors), but do be afraid of What If".


That is a very very bad proverb. I've never heard a proverb that encouraged worry!

Worry is mind abuse.

I think the Irish got it right:

Don't worry. What may be, may not be!




Applying this saying here, "You may cite reasons why you don't believe in Global warming and its effects, but what if Global warming is real, its effects may be too late and irreversible".

Many Blessings.
If the dogma were true, then its too late anyway.

Thankfully, they are totally and unequivocally wrong.

CWH
11-07-2009, 11:50 PM
Too much CO2 is actually no good for the body, it cause acidosis due to accumulatiuon of lactic acid and carbonic acid and it is a life threatening situation. In such a scenario, doctors would infuse alkaline drip and given copious amount of oxygen to dilute the acidosis. Try breathing large dose of CO2 and you will blackout in a short time.


Richard said:
And there is no scientific basis whatsoever for the dire warnings. There is ABSOLUTELY NO SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE that man-made CO2 emissions have had any effect on the environment.

Neither is there any Scientific proof that having high man-made CO2 in the atmosphere has NO effect on the environment.

It is the asame question I pose to you, there is absolutely no scientific evidence that God exist, then why do we believe in God?

Important thing is prevention when we still have a little time to reverse it. However, if we do not do anything about the evironment now, then it may be too late and the damage is irreversible. Or do you think that it's futile to do anything and when that time comes, well....this is it.


MANY BLESSINGS.

Richard Amiel McGough
11-08-2009, 12:16 AM
Too much CO2 is actually no good for the body, it cause acidosis due to accumulatiuon of lactic acid and carbonic acid and it is a life threatening situation. In such a scenario, doctors would infuse alkaline drip and given copious amount of oxygen to dilute the acidosis. Try breathing large dose of CO2 and you will blackout in a short time.

The amount needed to cause damage is a hundred times more than man will ever put into the atmosphere.



Neither is there any Scientific proof that having high man-made CO2 in the atmosphere has NO effect on the environment.

So we should destroy the modern world and cause the death of millions because of a theory without any proof?



It is the asame question I pose to you, there is absolutely no scientific evidence that God exist, then why do we believe in God?

Sure there's plenty of proof. But godhaters don't want proof and won't accept it because the problem never was "lack of proof." The problem is that evil people hate the light of God because their deeds are evil. As it is written:

John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.


Important thing is prevention when we still have a little time to reverse it.

That's absurd. We could shut down every factory and every car on the planet and it wouldn't have any effect whatsoever on the temperature of the planet.



However, if we do not do anything about the evironment now, then it may be too late and the damage is irreversible. Or do you think that it's futile to do anything and when that time comes, well....this is it.

MANY BLESSINGS.
I agree that there are many dangers to the environment cause by man, like deforrestation and the destruction of animal habitat. And I think it is VERY IMPORTANT that we fix all that. But global warming is a farce and a falsehood and is misdirecting people from the true enviromentalism that would actually do some good. It's just plain nuts and very counterproductive.

Thanks for the MANY BLESSINGS! I pray many blessing for you too my friend. I am glad we can talk about our different opinons without it hurting our friendship or fellowship. Again, MANY BLESSINGS!

:grouphug5:

Victor
11-08-2009, 05:26 AM
Global warming alarmists are just another doomsday cult just like the folks who constantly say that we are in the "end times." They are seeking to control the economy.

The whole "climate change" thing is a total farce. The "scientific" community will excommunicate anyone who publishes facts that disagree with their religious dogma.


What a perfect summary!

They are WRONG, WRONG, WRONG all the time just like the futurist date setters, but they are pictured as the "good guys" by mainstream media.

Leftists work on many fronts in their efforts to subvert Christian-based civilization and tocreate the socialist "new man," based upon the principle of empowering the state/government. The "global warming" hysteria has been one of their recent most successful endeavors.

Richard Amiel McGough
11-08-2009, 09:39 AM
What a perfect summary!

They are WRONG, WRONG, WRONG all the time just like the futurist date setters, but they are pictured as the "good guys" by mainstream media.

Leftists work on many fronts in their efforts to subvert Christian-based civilization and tocreate the socialist "new man," based upon the principle of empowering the state/government. The "global warming" hysteria has been one of their recent most successful endeavors.
Well stated Victor!

:signthankspin:

I find it interesting that the Ministry of Propaganda tried to deceive everyone by changing the name of their god from "Global Warming" to "Climate Change." How moronic! First they command the world that we must change the climate so that it will be cooler, and now they are telling us that we must fight climate change!

And these people present themselves as the only "intellectuals" in the debate!

:hysterical:

Is it any wonder that AL (the science is settled) Gore is terrified to debate this topic?