Divine Epistemology - Knowing God

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Geert van den Bos wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2026 12:34 am The creator of heaven and earth is a Hebrew letter name, not a Greek letter name and also not a number.
Where do you get the idea that God is a name? That's an ontological assertion about what He is. It seems absurd to me. God is not a sequence of Hebrew letters.

God has many names. His primary Hebrew name YHVH is based on the three tenses of the word "to be" - "yiyeh, havah, hayan" and so reveals God's eternality.
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RAMcGough wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2026 7:21 am
Geert van den Bos wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2026 12:34 am The creator of heaven and earth is a Hebrew letter name, not a Greek letter name and also not a number.
Where do you get the idea that God is a name? That's an ontological assertion about what He is. It seems absurd to me. God is not a sequence of Hebrew letters.

God has many names. His primary Hebrew name YHVH is based on the three tenses of the word "to be" - "yiyeh, havah, hayan" and so reveals God's eternality.

John 1:1

"In the beginning was the word and the word was directed towards God and God was the word"

a word is a building of letters
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Geert van den Bos wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2026 8:22 am John 1:1

"In the beginning was the word and the word was directed towards God and God was the word"

a word is a building of letters
Is that a joke? No serious student of the Bible would accept such a hyper-literalistic interpretation of Logos in that context. It's like saying Jesus has hinges and a knob because He said He was the Door.
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RAMcGough wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2026 8:57 am
Geert van den Bos wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2026 8:22 am John 1:1

"In the beginning was the word and the word was directed towards God and God was the word"

a word is a building of letters
Is that a joke? No serious student of the Bible would accept such a hyper-literalistic interpretation of Logos in that context. It's like saying Jesus has hinges and a knob because He said He was the Door.

the key was found in the number of fishes mentioned in John 21:11

written word = "teivah" = the ark that Noach build and also the basket in which baby Moses was laid

meausures of Noach's ark were 300 x 50 x 30

in other order spelling "lashon"= tongue (= flesh)

The ark was lifted upby the flood so that it's top with the skylight touched the 50th cubit above the earth --thus transforming the bent letter Nun in outstretched Nun -- that is also last letter of Daniel (12:13)

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Geert van den Bos wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2026 9:23 am
RAMcGough wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2026 8:57 am
Geert van den Bos wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2026 8:22 am John 1:1

"In the beginning was the word and the word was directed towards God and God was the word"

a word is a building of letters
Is that a joke? No serious student of the Bible would accept such a hyper-literalistic interpretation of Logos in that context. It's like saying Jesus has hinges and a knob because He said He was the Door.

the key was found in the number of fishes mentioned in John 21:11

written word = "teivah" = the ark that Noach build and also the basket in which baby Moses was laid

meausures of Noach's ark were 300 x 50 x 30

in other order spelling "lashon"= tongue (= flesh)

The ark was lifted upby the flood so that it's top with the skylight touched the 50th cubit above the earth --thus transforming the bent letter Nun in outstretched Nun -- that is also last letter of Daniel (12:13)

Etc.
Your response is irrational. You didn't answer my point at all. It seems like you don't take anything seriously. It's seems like you're just making meaningless jokes all the time.
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RAMcGough wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2026 9:33 am
Your response is irrational. You didn't answer my point at all. It seems like you don't take anything seriously. It's seems like you're just making meaningless jokes all the time.
"tov" = 17

153rd word in Hebrew Genesis is "tov"

"tov" first occured in Genesis 1:4,

"vayar elohim et-haor ki-tov" and God saw the light to be good

so it is about the light on which John 1 expounds

John 1:4 "In it (the written word) was life and the life was the light of men.The light shines in the darkness and the darkness did'nt comprehend"

The darkness that was God's hidingplace ;)
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Geert van den Bos wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2026 11:26 am "tov" = 17

153rd word in Hebrew Genesis is "tov"

"tov" first occured in Genesis 1:4,

"vayar elohim et-haor ki-tov" and God saw the light to be good

so it is about the light on which John 1 expounds

John 1:4 "In it (the written word) was life and the life was the light of men.The light shines in the darkness and the darkness did'nt comprehend"

The darkness that was God's hidingplace ;)
Yes, we agree tov = 17 and that this is significant in relation to the T(17) = 153 fish of John 21, as explained in this post above:
RAMcGough wrote: Sat Mar 14, 2026 6:49 am
Geert van den Bos wrote: Fri Mar 13, 2026 10:36 am 153= T17 and 17 = "tov" = the 153rd word in the Torah :P
Yes, that's a significant part of God's grand design based on the number 17.

1717 = 17 (tov/good) x 101 (tzava/command) = The Will of God (τὸ θέλημα τοῦ θεοῦ)

1Jo 2:17 And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.
καὶ ὁ κόσμος παράγεται καὶ ἡ ἐπιθυμία αὐτοῦ, ὁ δὲ ποιῶν τὸ θέλημα τοῦ θεοῦ μένει εἰς τὸν αἰῶνα.

Genesis 6:22 Thus did Noah; according to all that God commanded (tzavah = 101) him, so did he.
וַיַּעַשׂ נֹחַ כְּכֹל אֲשֶׁר צִוָּה אֹתוֹ אֱלֹהִים כֵּן עָשָׂה׃

And what is the good command of God? REPENT and BELIEVE THE GOSPEL! We must offer our very selves unto God as a living sacrifice (zebach = 17):

Rom 12:1 I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service. And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

Amen? AMEN!
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RAMcGough wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2026 11:38 am

REPENT and BELIEVE THE GOSPEL
Gospel = Hebrew "besorah" from root "basar/bisseir" .

"basar"= flesh

"and the (written) word ( that was in the beginning ) became flesh (human language)"
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Geert van den Bos wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2026 12:48 pm
RAMcGough wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2026 11:38 am

REPENT and BELIEVE THE GOSPEL
Gospel = Hebrew "besorah" from root "basar/bisseir" .

"basar"= flesh

"and the (written) word ( that was in the beginning ) became flesh (human language)"
That's an interesting connection your bring up. The words for "flesh" and "good news" are indeed based on the same three Hebrew letters. And within the book of Isaiah, they make their JOINT DEBUT in the 40th chapter, where the GOSPEL GOES FORTH!

Isaiah 40:3 The voice of him that crieth in the wilderness [JOHN THE BAPTIST], Prepare ye the way of the LORD [JESUS CHRIST], make straight in the desert a highway for our God. 4 Every valley shall be exalted, and every mountain and hill shall be made low: and the crooked shall be made straight, and the rough places plain: 5 And the glory of the LORD [JESUS CHRIST] shall be revealed, and all flesh shall see it together: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it. 6 The voice said, Cry. And he said, What shall I cry? All flesh is grass, and all the goodliness thereof is as the flower of the field: 7 The grass withereth, the flower fadeth: because the spirit of the LORD bloweth upon it: surely the people is grass. 8 The grass withereth, the flower fadeth: but the word of our God shall stand for ever. 9 O Zion, that bringest good tidings, get thee up into the high mountain; O Jerusalem, that bringest good tidings, lift up thy voice with strength; lift it up, be not afraid; say unto the cities of Judah, Behold your God [JESUS CHRIST]!

Like I said Geert, you need to REPENT and BELIEVE THE GOSPEL!

Amen.
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RAMcGough wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2026 1:30 pm

Like I said Geert, you need to REPENT and BELIEVE THE GOSPEL!

Amen.
The Gospel is not

"Jesus is God"

or

"888 is God"

or

"2368 is God"
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