Divine Epistemology - Knowing God

[Geert van den Bos]

"The place" formed the entrance of the holy land, i.e the land promised to Abraham's seed,
Genesis 15:18, On that day, the Lord formed a covenant with Abram, saying, "To your seed I have given this land, from the river of Egypt until the great river, the Euphrates river.

these two rivers happen to be the first and fourth river that flowed out of Eden

The first river(the one river that became four heads) flowed around the land of Chavila where the gold was.

https://www.chabad.org/library/bible_cdo/aid/8166


They are not to be seen as geographical realities; like Zionists do ("Greater Israel" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Israel )

That's my opinion.

[RAMcGough]

these two rivers happen to be the first and fourth river that flowed out of Eden

The first river(the one river that became four heads) flowed around the land of Chavila where the gold was.

https://www.chabad.org/library/bible_cdo/aid/8166


They are not to be seen as geographical realities; like Zionisists do ("Greater Israel" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Israel )

That's my opinion.

Four rivers, four Gospels? Flowing from one head, Christ?

The Bible is the Gospel, from beginning to end.

[Geert van den Bos]

Four rivers, four Gospels? Flowing from one head, Christ?

The Bible is the Gospel, from beginning to end.

that's bullshit too

[RAMcGough]

Four rivers, four Gospels? Flowing from one head, Christ?

The Bible is the Gospel, from beginning to end.

that's bullshit too

I wish you knew that what comes out your mouth reveals what is in your heart.

Matthew 15:11 "Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man."

[Geert van den Bos]

I wish you knew that what comes out your mouth reveals what is in your heart.

Matthew 15:11 "Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man."

11 οὐ τὸ εἰσερχόμενον εἰς τὸ στόμα κοινοῖ τὸν ἄνθρωπον, ἀλλὰ τὸ ἐκπορευόμενον ἐκ τοῦ στόματος τοῦτο κοινοῖ τὸν ἄνθρωπον.

cf.Matthew 4:4
ὁ δὲ ἀποκριθεὶς εἶπεν, Γέγραπται, Οὐκ ἐπ' ἄρτῳ μόνῳ ζήσεται ὁ ἄνθρωπος, ἀλλ' ἐπὶ παντὶ ῥήματι ἐκπορευομένῳ διὰ στόματος θεοῦ.

[Geert van den Bos]

you keep on mixing Greek and Hebrew gematria-values, like a real Diabolos = confounder

Genesis 11:9,
That is why it was called Babel, because there GOD confounded ( *confounded Heb. balal “confound,” play on “Babel.” ) the speech of the whole earth

https://www.sefaria.org/Genesis.11.9?la ... 1&lang2=bi

διάβολος
https://biblehub.com/greek/1228.htm


from διαβάλλω
https://biblehub.com/greek/1225.htm

from from G1223 (διά - through) and G906 (βάλλω - thrown)]
https://biblehub.com/greek/906.htm

βάλλω edenic from "balal" mingle, mix, confuse, confound
https://biblehub.com/hebrew/1101.htm


it was because they said:
“Come, let us build us a wheel, and a ladder with its top in heaven, to make a name for ourselves; else we shall be scattered all over the world.”

https://www.sefaria.org/Genesis.11.4?lang=bi&aliyot=0

[Geert van den Bos]

I wish you knew that what comes out your mouth reveals what is in your heart.

Matthew 15:11 "Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man."

11 οὐ τὸ εἰσερχόμενον εἰς τὸ στόμα κοινοῖ τὸν ἄνθρωπον, ἀλλὰ τὸ ἐκπορευόμενον ἐκ τοῦ στόματος τοῦτο κοινοῖ τὸν ἄνθρωπον.

cf.Matthew 4:4
ὁ δὲ ἀποκριθεὶς εἶπεν, Γέγραπται, Οὐκ ἐπ' ἄρτῳ μόνῳ ζήσεται ὁ ἄνθρωπος, ἀλλ' ἐπὶ παντὶ ῥήματι ἐκπορευομένῳ διὰ στόματος θεοῦ.

Matthew 15:1-20
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?s ... ersion=ESV

is build around Isaiah 29:13
https://www.sefaria.org/Isaiah.29.13?la ... 2&lang2=bi is build around Isaiah 29:19
Revised JPS
My Sovereign said: Because that people has approached [Me] with its mouth and honored Me with its lips, but has kept its heart far from Me,
and its worship of Me has been a social obligation, learned by rote

Rashi:
Because this people has come near Jonathan renders: Because this people has aggrandized itself. I.e., they have come near to raise themselves up to the heavens. They show themselves as though honoring Me with mouth and lip, but their heart they have drawn far away from Me.

Matthew 4:4 is in the context of the devil who came to tempt Jesus to aggrandize himself
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?s ... ersion=ESV

[RAMcGough]

you keep on mixing Greek and Hebrew gematria-values, like a real Diabolos = confounder

The truth confounds those all who deny it.

That the stone rejected by the builders should be the same as the one that served Jacob as cushion -- see

That's exactly what I said. The stone is Christ.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1695 ... 44477.html

418 was A.Crowley's favorite number
number of ABRAHADABRA (written with Hebrew letters) אבראהאדאברא

Now you are confounding God's truth with the ravings of a satanist.

153= T17 and 17 = "tov" = the 153rd word in the Torah

Yes, that's a significant part of God's grand design based on the number 17.

1717 = 17 (tov/good) x 101 (tzava/command) = The Will of God (τὸ θέλημα τοῦ θεοῦ)

1Jo 2:17 And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.
καὶ ὁ κόσμος παράγεται καὶ ἡ ἐπιθυμία αὐτοῦ, ὁ δὲ ποιῶν τὸ θέλημα τοῦ θεοῦ μένει εἰς τὸν αἰῶνα.

Genesis 6:22 Thus did Noah; according to all that God commanded (tzavah = 101) him, so did he.
וַיַּעַשׂ נֹחַ כְּכֹל אֲשֶׁר צִוָּה אֹתוֹ אֱלֹהִים כֵּן עָשָׂה׃

And what is the good command of God? REPENT and BELIEVE THE GOSPEL! We must offer our very selves unto God as a living sacrifice (zebach = 17):

Rom 12:1 I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service. And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

Amen? AMEN!

[Geert van den Bos]

My Sovereign said: Because that people has approached [Me] with its mouth and honored Me with its lips, but has kept its heart far from Me,
and its worship of Me has been a social obligation, learned by rote

victims of society
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M238MyP ... 3g&index=4

[Geert van den Bos]

418 was A.Crowley's favorite number
number of ABRAHADABRA (written with Hebrew letters) אבראהאדאברא

Now you are confounding God's truth with the ravings of a satanist.

you yourself came up with that number as being gematria of "beito"

his house = the house of the satan?